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Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:40 am

You could ask Senate Democrats why they did not support the House bill from last May:

But House Republicans said they wanted to stop or limit border crossings before trying to tackle other issues.

The Secure the Border Act would resume construction of the border wall begun under President Donald Trump, limit asylum eligibility to ports of entry, require migrants to wait out asylum claims in Mexico, provide grants for law enforcement engaged in border security and add stiffer penalties for overstaying visas. It also would extend expulsion authority akin to Title 42.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/11 ... rder-bill/

I mean if the democrats are serious and all.

sitting down to share an appetizer would be a step in the right direction.  The options don't have to be binary.  It doesn't have to be all or nothing, gorging in a seven-course meal or starvation.  If you want to play politics, and let the situation remain unchanged at the border until a year from now in order to score political points and help Trump's chances of getting elected, go for it.  I think the votes of NY CD3 just told you what THEY think of that idea.

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:59 am

sitting down to share an appetizer would be a step in the right direction.  The options don't have to be binary.  It doesn't have to be all or nothing, gorging in a seven-course meal or starvation.  If you want to play politics, and let the situation remain unchanged at the border until a year from now in order to score political points and help Trump's chances of getting elected, go for it.  I think the votes of NY CD3 just told you what THEY think of that idea.

ANd if you want to play politics and support this bill that does nothing but let the campaig say they are trying, go for it.

I lined out the BS portion.  As far as NY CD3, for at least the last 60 years that district has flipped flopped between dem and repub quit often.

Oh, I am not even voting for Trump.  But I have told you that before.  So if post it you will be a convicted liar.   

 

RebelGator » 14 Feb 2024, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

14 Feb 2024, 9:49 am

You're full of crap on this issue.

I'm going to give you a head's up on the biggest story in years so you can get your ducks in a row....."The Big Red Binder"....get ready for it.

you mean posts like this?

these are the ones I should respond to.

OK.  Let me respond:

I am all atwitter literally chewing my fingernails and unable to concentrate on anything else just sitting here WAITING for the Big Red Binder.  Oh please... Oh please... PLEASE reveal the mysteries of the Big Red Binder to me!  I CAN HARDLY STAND THE WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 8:40 am

You could ask Senate Democrats why they did not support the House bill from last May:

But House Republicans said they wanted to stop or limit border crossings before trying to tackle other issues.

The Secure the Border Act would resume construction of the border wall begun under President Donald Trump, limit asylum eligibility to ports of entry, require migrants to wait out asylum claims in Mexico, provide grants for law enforcement engaged in border security and add stiffer penalties for overstaying visas. It also would extend expulsion authority akin to Title 42.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/11 ... rder-bill/

I mean if the democrats are serious and all.

Dumbocrats are FAR from seious about closing the border. Hell, do you think that they want to??

Seeing how ALL THESE ILLEGALS- all 6.5 MILLION of them that Dullbrain has let in, will be COUNTED IN THE CENSUS for Democrat reps in Congress and State houses!! There is ZERO DESIRE to shut down these illegals coming here. Seeing how it was DullBRAIN's first EO's he issued once in office.

They really think we are stupid and unable to decipher their code.

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:03 am

ANd if you want to play politics and support this bill that does nothing but let the campaig say they are trying, go for it.

I lined out the BS portion.  As far as NY CD3, for at least the last 60 years that district has flipped flopped between dem and repub quit often.

Oh, I am not even voting for Trump.  But I have told you that before.  So if post it you will be a convicted liar.

You are aware, are you not, that, in American presidential politics, a vote for a third party candidate or a non-vote is mathematically IDENTICAL to voting for the candidate who comes in second?  SO, in effect, if you do not vote FOR Joe Biden in an effort to keep Donald Trump from turning America into an authoritarian dictatorship, your vote, whatever else it might be, is a vote FOR that very outcome.  Own it.

Beekeeper » 15 Feb 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:06 am

Dumbocrats are FAR from seious about closing the border. Hell, do you think that they want to??

Seeing how ALL THESE ILLEGALS- all 6.5 MILLION of them that Dullbrain has let in, will be COUNTED IN THE CENSUS for Democrat reps in Congress and State houses!! There is ZERO DESIRE to shut down these illegals coming here. Seeing how it was DullBRAIN's first EO's he issued once in office.

They really think we are stupid and unable to decipher their code.

 

They really don't want to secure the border.  And I am tired of hearing about root causes.  If a pipe breaks in your hose you go searching for the root cause until AFTER you stop the water flow.  After you stop it you work on figuring out why it happened.

 

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:12 am

They really don't want to secure the border.  And I am tired of hearing about root causes.  If a pipe breaks in your hose you go searching for the root cause until AFTER you stop the water flow.  After you stop it you work on figuring out why it happened.

walking and chewing gum simultaneously must be hard for folks like you.

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:25 am

walking and chewing gum simultaneously must be hard for folks like you.

I guess you are the idiot who will let the water flow continue while you search for the cause.  

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:09 am

You are aware, are you not, that, in American presidential politics, a vote for a third party candidate or a non-vote is mathematically IDENTICAL to voting for the candidate who comes in second?  SO, in effect, if you do not vote FOR Joe Biden in an effort to keep Donald Trump from turning America into an authoritarian dictatorship, your vote, whatever else it might be, is a vote FOR that very outcome.  Own it.

 

Passed Over, please post these authoritarian policies that Trump will institute.  Prove to us you are not a talking point stooge.  
 

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:35 am

Passed Over, please post these authoritarian policies that Trump will institute.  Prove to us you are not a talking point stooge.

Not until you retract your false insult.  That serves no purpose other than to poke at me for poking's sake.

I'll wait.

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:32 am

I guess you are the idiot who will let the water flow continue while you search for the cause.

Is multitasking just a totally foreign concept to you?



Do you not think that increased LEO's on the border would help stem the flow of immigrants?

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:13 am

Not until you retract your false insult.  That serves no purpose other than to poke at me for poking's sake.

I'll wait.

 

If you can't take the heat get out of the fire.  Or stop dishing it out if you can't take it.    

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:15 am

If you can't take the heat get out of the fire.  Or stop dishing it out if you can't take it.  

I can take heat... gratuitous insults about my career do nothing to advance the argument.  The walking/chewing comment bore directly on it.

See the difference.  SO... try again.  rescind and apologize for  the passed over remark and I will answer your question.

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:25 am

walking and chewing gum simultaneously must be hard for folks like you.

Understanding how and why you never accept the uniqueness of being alive now shows you won't change your mind about ignoring life in plain sight.

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:18 am

I can take heat... gratuitous insults about my career do nothing to advance the argument.  The walking/chewing comment bore directly on it.

See the difference.  SO... try again.  rescind and apologize for  the passed over remark and I will answer your question.

Maineman
What is it that you don't udnerstand?

This bill does not STOP these people..
It slows them down and gives the border patrol more help to process them
 

maineman » 15 Feb 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:18 am

I can take heat... gratuitous insults about my career do nothing to advance the argument.  The walking/chewing comment bore directly on it.

See the difference.  SO... try again.  rescind and apologize for  the passed over remark and I will answer your question.

 

You are just a sensitive fellow who can't take what you dish out.  I don't give a **** if you answer or not.  

Not only can I walk and chew gum at the same time I can rub my head and pat belly at while doing.  That why I was able to fly a helicopter although I wasn't a pilot.    

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 9:12 am

They really don't want to secure the border.  And I am tired of hearing about root causes.  If a pipe breaks in your hose you go searching for the root cause until AFTER you stop the water flow.  After you stop it you work on figuring out why it happened.

You don't expect them to use any form or COMMON-SENSE LOGIC now do you?? That would be so far over their IQ, it would be scary. 
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These **** couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag if it was well lit inside.

Beekeeper » 15 Feb 2024, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:53 am

You don't expect them to use any form or COMMON-SENSE LOGIC now do you?? That would be so far over their IQ, it would be scary. 
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These **** couldn't find their way out of a wet paper bag if it was well lit inside.

The left, including maineman, would flood their house searching for the root cause instead of stopping the flow of water first.  

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:54 am

The left, including maineman, would flood their house searching for the root cause instead of stopping the flow of water first.

I never doubted you there.

Huey » 15 Feb 2024, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

15 Feb 2024, 10:23 am

You are just a sensitive fellow who can't take what you dish out.  I don't give a **** if you answer or not.  

Not only can I walk and chew gum at the same time I can rub my head and pat belly at while doing.  That why I was able to fly a helicopter although I wasn't a pilot.  

I don't think I have ever dished out gratuitous insults to YOU, and if I have, I certainly should have apologized for it then.  Now... I think I would simply "pass over" any thoughts of rapprochement should they come to mind.    I have found that different members of the opposition on here are more (or less) worthy of civility and even a degree of begrudging politeness.  Obviously,  there is movement along that scale.

When I was at Annapolis, every single member of my class was able to fly a helicopter, as well as T-34's and T-28's.  It's not that hard.