Judge fines Trump $354 million

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By OdeToJoy
16 Feb 2024 2:18 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 10:15 am » wrote: Dollars talk....your opinion doesn't.

Only because the look back was limited to 10 years. And it is not a necessary condition.

Signing false attestations for the purpose of accessing credit is fraud.

Period.
I thought this is America?  If the banks didn’t want to loan him money they didn’t have to WTF 
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BuckNaked » 17 Feb 2024, 2:04 pm » wrote: I thought this is America?  If the banks didn’t want to loan him money they didn’t have to WTF
Give the moron act a rest.
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R. Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 2:06 pm » wrote: Give the moron act a rest.
You protect educated stupidity being smarter than any brain adapting as displaced. Because instinctively honest ancestors won't comply to hypothetical scenarios as all any citizens needs to know cradle to grave, doesn't make them evil, mentally ill, anti-social, soulless, mindless creatures below your social narrative used for thousands of years promising something that can never physically happen.
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 2:06 pm » wrote: Give the moron act a rest.

you explain it 
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You watch too much FOX.


Nod.
 
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 1:42 pm » wrote: Great, assuming you own the "collateral" outright.

But if there's any leverage, all you have to offer is your equity. And that is reflected in your audited financial statement.

Zeet,

Stop braying like a jackass.

You're a fraud.
Stop pretending you have even a clue about the subject.

One DOES NOT have to own a property outright in order to use the equity as collateral.
If I own a million dollar home and have a $10,000 mortgage left on it, are you saying the $990,000 in equity can't be used as collateral for another property purchase of $400,000 I want to make?  And I WOULD NOT need any audited financial statement to get that loan if the bank or lender does the appraisal on my million dollar home and finds it's sufficiently accurate, they would eagerly want to give me that loan, which is EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP DID!

Stick to figuring out the total of the nickels and dimes in the piggy bank holding all YOUR equity and stop trying to fool anyone with your phony economic expertise!
I swear, with every one of your posts, you come out with something more dumb than the last statement you made!

 
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 3:06 pm » wrote: You watch too much FOX.

Nod.

I just watched the Gators defeat jawjaw
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Zeets2 » 17 Feb 2024, 3:20 pm » wrote: Stop pretending you have even a clue about the subject.

One DOES NOT have to own a property outright in order to use the equity as collateral.
If I own a million dollar home and have a $10,000 mortgage left on it, are you saying the $990,000 in equity can't be used as collateral for another property purchase of $400,000 I want to make?  And I WOULD NOT need any audited financial statement to get that loan if the bank or lender does the appraisal on my million dollar home and finds it's sufficiently accurate, they would eagerly want to give me that loan, which is EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP DID!

Stick to figuring out the total of the nickels and dimes in the piggy bank holding all YOUR equity and stop trying to fool anyone with your phony economic expertise!
I swear, with every one of your posts, you come out with something more dumb than the last statement you made!
You can't read, Zeet

Great, assuming you own the "collateral" outright.

But if there's any leverage, all you have to offer is your equity. And that is reflected in your audited financial statement
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You're a **** idiot.
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 3:06 pm » wrote: You watch too much FOX.

Nod.
 I'm disturbed, I'm depressed, I'm inadequate. I've got it all!
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BuckNaked » 17 Feb 2024, 3:26 pm » wrote:  I'm disturbed, I'm depressed, I'm inadequate. I've got it all!
And a cult of people just like you.
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 3:23 pm » wrote: You can't read, Zeet

Great, assuming you own the "collateral" outright.

But if there's any leverage, all you have to offer is your equity. And that is reflected in your audited financial statement
.

You're a **** idiot.
It's obvious I can read far better than you!
Because I responded directly to your ****, stating YOU DO NOT HAVE TO OWN THE COLLATERAL OUTRIGHT!
Nor would you need an audited financial statement to consummate the loan, which is a fact that you can't seem to grasp!
And banks would line up to give it to you!
 
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 3:29 pm » wrote: And a cult of people just like you.

what cult?
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Zeets2 » 17 Feb 2024, 3:29 pm » wrote: It's obvious I can read far better than you!
Because I responded directly to your ****, stating YOU DO NOT HAVE TO OWN THE COLLATERAL OUTRIGHT!
Nor would you need an audited financial statement to consummate the loan, which is a fact that you can't seem to grasp!
And banks would line up to give it to you!
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO OWN THE COLLATERAL OUTRIGHT!
I haven't said you do. I've told you if you don't, you can only borrow against the equity.
Nor would you need an audited financial statement to consummate the loan
If you have to sign for them, assuming they aren't the payday loans you've negotiated, you better believe you need audited financials..

Why do you think Grifty paid Mazars.

**** idiot.
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 3:33 pm » wrote: I haven't said you do. I've told you if you don't, you can only borrow against the equity.

If you have to sign for them, assuming they aren't the payday loans you've negotiated, you better believe you need audited financials..

Why do you think Grifty paid Mazars.

**** idiot.
Get it through your thick liberal head that YOU DO NOT need an audited financial statement. PERIOD!
And I know it for a fact, because I've just sold my house in northern NJ and bought a new one, and my bank OFFERED TO GIVE ME A LOAN if I needed it, until they learned I had already purchased my new home for cash. They did a drive-by appraisal of my previous home AND DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO ENTER IT to approve a "bridge" loan.  You see stupid, the bank wanted to be extremely generous with me because of my past history doing business with them (much as Trump has had with his bankers), and they were hoping I would still want to do my business and personal banking with them in my new location in south/central NJ, JUST AS TRUMP'S BANKERS WERE EAGER TO CONTINUE DOING BUSINESS WITH HIM IN THE FUTURE!

You're exceedingly stupid if you really believe that no banks will loan Trump money any longer.
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 3:33 pm » wrote: I haven't said you do. I've told you if you don't, you can only borrow against the equity.

If you have to sign for them, assuming they aren't the payday loans you've negotiated, you better believe you need audited financials..

Why do you think Grifty paid Mazars.

**** idiot.

That is not what Nicholas Haigh, the former Deutsche Bank risk management officer, who approved the loan said:
If you have to sign for them, assuming they aren't the payday loans you've negotiated, you better believe you need audited financials..


https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump ... 6dc66f3878

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Huey » 17 Feb 2024, 5:57 pm » wrote: That is not what Nicholas Haigh, the former Deutsche Bank risk management officer, who approved the loan said:

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump ... 6dc66f3878

@Zeets2
What do you believe he said?
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R.Suave » 17 Feb 2024, 6:30 pm » wrote: What do you believe he said?
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We can work backwards from what you insist he DIDN'T say..

 
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Nostradamus'omh » 17 Feb 2024, 2:33 pm » wrote: You protect educated stupidity being smarter than any brain adapting as displaced. Because instinctively honest ancestors won't comply to hypothetical scenarios as all any citizens needs to know cradle to grave, doesn't make them evil, mentally ill, anti-social, soulless, mindless creatures below your social narrative used for thousands of years promising something that can never physically happen.
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