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Cannonpointer » 05 Mar 2024, 10:11 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:11 pm

No, no. Taking them would DIRECTLY help israel clear the land of palestinians. So they would never do that - even if the palis were excellent citizens, which I have clearly agreed with you they are not.

I have not once disputed your numbers. You just have no idea what they mean - and DON'T mean.

That's not the WORST straw man you've built.

And for that matter, now that you bring it up (I never did), it would not surprise me if in fact they DID require the Gazan cohort to resettle in west bank. They are, after all, creating a humanitarian crisis which would give the resettlement cover. They'd be doing it "for their own good."

Shoving them into Gaza in the first place is ethnic cleansing, kid - and apartheid. Pretending they are a sovereign and self-governing entity - as we do with redskins - is window dressing. They are israeli citizens in an open air prison. And since it is clear you do not understand this, people are NOT contradicting themselves when they claim that Israel is keeping them prisoners and want them gone from the land. They will happily let them out of prison to vacate that land - they can go anywhere they want. They just can't leave Gaza for any ISRAELI port of call - not even to go to West Bank. And they have no passports, which makes them both "displaced people" and "refugees," anywhere they go. Not many nations are looking to increase the number of displaced people and refugees on their soil. 

So Israel does NOT want them gone - that is your claim?

Final answer?

I don't have a flock, son. What I have is a dispassionate view - and you would be better for it if you could manage that.

Okay, if you say so, son. Glad to have you one record that Haaretz is a far left paper.

           They are OBLIGATED by Islam to help their Muslim / Arab brethren.... Your assertion that disregarding this duty because accepting in some Palestinian "Refugees"  (Not the whole, or substantial portion of the Palestinian Population) because it aids Israel in depopulating those Pali Territories is far less plausible than the fact that it the proven consequences to those who have hosted them... 

           Since you in your heart of hearts believe Israel's objective is to remove all the Arabs from Gaza, tell us exactly how they are going to accomplish this?..... As I stated, based on the numbers it's going to be a long haul of several hundred years to either kill them off or deport them out...

​​​​​​​           How do you figure Hamas does not govern Gaza?...... They have been the sole administrator of that land since 2006..  And again, any restrictions regarding Land or Sea Blockades by Israel & Egypt are the direct fault of Hamas.. 

​​​​​​​           Not looking to take in more refugees into their countries????.... You mean like the Millions of Syrians Turkey and other countries have taken in --- or the continuing tsunami of refugees flooding into Europe???... How about are own **** country???... .Oooops.

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Cannonpointer » 05 Mar 2024, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:21 pm

At this point I think it is pretty clear you are too deeply invested emotionally to argue the facts rationally. 

Any rational person, having had it explained to them, would understand that the very act of confining them to Gaza and disallowing their travel within israel - even to west bank - is ethnic cleansing by definition. 

They are on reservations, son. Try to think. Try to apply definitions. You can do it. That land - the land that Israel holds in statehood - used to have palestinians all throughout. They were rounded up, and put on reservations. Take a breath, bro, You can do this math, if you settle your adrenal issues and look at it dispassionately, using the actual meanings of words. 

No matter WHAT you think MY motivations are, yours ought to be to form rational and cogent explanations of the world you inhabit. And when you use POPULATION in an equation that should be based on LAND, not population, you forsake any attempt at rational argument. 

When you can stop conflating genocide with ethnic cleansing, you will be on the road to arguing why you SUPPORT ethnic cleansing, rather than making the manifestly silly and universally rejected claim that ethnic cleansing and apartheid are not the official state policy of Israel. The 15% of Israel that are practicing Orthodox Jews agree with me - not you. Does that mean that you are an anti-semite?

Not by my math - but by yours... maybe so...

        LMAO.... You have been in a State of Anti-Israeli hysterics and can't see a damn thing through your disdain & contempt for that country since the word go.. Look how those who share your Views carry themselves in their protests.... Unhinged, overemotional loons... 

       No surprise to see you're one of the flock who find it hard to fathom why an internationally recognized Terror Group on your border, who is sworn to your complete annihilation, and regularly launches missiles indiscriminately at you would not have unfettered access into your country.... LOL
By the way, many Gazans had been allowed to cross into Israel to work jobs.... But you have no grasp as to why that arrangement might have changed after October 7th.. 

       Again, the Gazan and West Bank Arabs are victims of little other than their own disastrous choices in leadership, and also the interference / military intervention of neighbouring Arab countries ----- And again, when you lose wars (especially those you initiated ) you lose land... It really is just that simple and a consequence of Wars since the beginning of time.... 

     That is precisely why what was originally allocated as Palestinian / Arab land, and Israel by the UN in 1947 are no longer what they were... But you sure as hell wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing had the Arab Armies been victorious and won chunks of Israeli territory if the Jews had repeatedly initiated and lost wars.. 

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm

           They are OBLIGATED by Islam to help their Muslim / Arab brethren.... Your assertion that disregarding this duty because accepting in some Palestinian "Refugees"  (Not the whole, or substantial portion of the Palestinian Population) because it aids Israel in depopulating those Pali Territories is far less plausible than the fact that it the proven consequences to those who have hosted them...

You are the one making it an either/or false dichotomy. I fully endorsed your argument as to their motives. Mine is perfectly sensible and is based on statecraft, not religion. But you are emotionally invested in yours being the only ones. 

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm

           Since you in your heart of hearts believe Israel's objective is to remove all the Arabs from Gaza, tell us exactly how they are going to accomplish this?..... As I stated, based on the numbers it's going to be a long haul of several hundred years to either kill them off or deport them out...

It is inarguable that they want the palis gone from gaza. You wouldn't? Have you heard of Oct 7 at all? Of COURSE they want them gone - don't play stupid. It's a bad look.

There's a **** of offshore oil there that belongs in part to whoever holds gaza. Only a partisan dunderhead would try to deny israel wants that land freed up. As to how they might accomplish that, I am sure they would pay me many millions to share the secret, if I knew. But what the heck - I'll take a swing.

Hmmm...They could create an emergency, and use that emergency as a pretext. In this case, I would think maybe bomb the place to rubble, accidentally making it uninhabitable, and then - for HUMANITARIAN reasons, you understand - resettling the reservation trash to a different reservation.

I hear the west bank has openings.

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm

           How do you figure Hamas does not govern Gaza?...... They have been the sole administrator of that land since 2006..

The same way you figure the Sioux Indians do not have a state to govern. They have been the sole administrator of that land since 1868. And the south african tribes were the sole administrators of THEIR "homelands." 

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm

And again, any restrictions regarding Land or Sea Blockades by Israel & Egypt are the direct fault of Hamas..

Yes, yes - there is a good pretext. And a good pretext is almost the same as self-government and statehood. Maybe they can use it as a passport.

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 10:36 pm

           Not looking to take in more refugees into their countries????.... You mean like the Millions of Syrians Turkey and other countries have taken in --- or the continuing tsunami of refugees flooding into Europe???... How about are own **** country???... .Oooops.

Yes, I mean that. Countries are not eager for a couple of million more refugees, especially those with - how shall I put this... a troubled past.

If the palis had passports, they could certainly make their way to mexico and cross our borders. But they don't, so they can't. Israel will not let them form a state and will not give them israeli passports. They are people without a country. You have no idea what that means. Hell, you don't even know what ethnic cleansing means.

And the only possible way for people without passports to make europe is as boat people. Palestine is a long way from europe, and I doubt whether many palestinians have the courage to float barges through IDF-infested waters. However wonderful and compassionate YOU may feel the IDF is, the palis' experience of the IDF may vary. 

 
 

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm

        LMAO.... You have been in a State of Anti-Israeli hysterics and can't see a damn thing through your disdain & contempt for that country since the word go.. Look how those who share your Views carry themselves in their protests.... Unhinged, overemotional loons...

Your desperation to link me with this or that flock or group is palpable. ONE of us is emotional - the individual reader can decide which.  

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm

       No surprise to see you're one of the flock who find it hard to fathom why an internationally recognized Terror Group on your border, who is sworn to your complete annihilation, and regularly launches missiles indiscriminately at you would not have unfettered access into your country.... LOL

Yet it is YOU who insists that the israelis do not want this menace gone, and it is you who froths at the mouth if anyone suggests something so crazy as maybe they DO want them gone.

You keep arguing what worthless pieces of **** they are, and then becoming aggrieved at the mere suggestion that Israel might not want to remain neighbors with them.

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm

By the way, many Gazans had been allowed to cross into Israel to work jobs.... But you have no grasp as to why that arrangement might have changed after October 7th..

I cannot imagine any reason to abandon such a great cultural exchange program.

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm

       Again, the Gazan and West Bank Arabs are victims of little other than their own disastrous choices in leadership, and also the interference / military intervention of neighbouring Arab countries ----- And again, when you lose wars (especially those you initiated ) you lose land... It really is just that simple and a consequence of Wars since the beginning of time....

Hey, I'm with ya. Those **** choctaws and chippewas were asking for it, too.

Kobia2 » 05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:05 pm

     That is precisely why what was originally allocated as Palestinian / Arab land, and Israel by the UN in 1947 are no longer what they were... But you sure as hell wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing had the Arab Armies been victorious and won chunks of Israeli territory if the Jews had repeatedly initiated and lost wars.. 

I will just have to take your word for what I might or might not have done in the hypothetical world you inhabit, son. I can tell you THIS much: I would not be so big a ****** as to conflate how a state treats its CITIZENS with how it deals with invading armies. What Jordan et al did in 1967 has ****-all to do with israel throwing ethnic palestinian citizens out of their homes in east jerusalem in 2024. 

I wish you had the balls to argue for the ethnic cleansing you support, instead of lying about it. No one reading this has any doubt that you support the ethnic cleansing in which israel is engaged. And I'm not one to moralize about such things. I just don't respect people who have to couch their language falsely.

You remind me of an abortion advocate who lies that it's "a clump of cells" and insists on referring to abortions as "procedures." I am pro-choice, myself - but I have the balls to acknowledge that every abortion kills a baby, or the abortion is a **** failure. Why can't you generate the **** sack to just call a spade a spade and defend your position, instead of wasting all of this argument insisting that clearing an ethnic group out of your state by putting them on reservations isn't ethnic cleansing? Why ya gotta go full leftard?

 
 

It is self evident Palis are the sacrificial lambs of the Islam's eliminating the Jews forever getting the rest of the world todo their dirty work through power of suggesting jews created the fall of humanity..

Cannonpointer » 05 Mar 2024, 11:23 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:23 pm

Your desperation to link me with this or that flock or group is palpable. ONE of us is emotional - the individual reader can decide which.  

Yet it is YOU who insists that the israelis do not want this menace gone, and it is you who froths at the mouth if anyone suggests something so crazy as maybe they DO want them gone.

You keep arguing what worthless pieces of **** they are, and then becoming aggrieved at the mere suggestion that Israel might not want to remain neighbors with them.

I cannot imagine any reason to abandon such a great cultural exchange program.

Hey, I'm with ya. Those **** choctaws and chippewas were asking for it, too.

I will just have to take your word for what I might or might not have done in the hypothetical world you inhabit, son. I can tell you THIS much: I would not be so big a ****** as to conflate how a state treats its CITIZENS with how it deals with invading armies. What Jordan et al did in 1967 has ****-all to do with israel throwing ethnic palestinian citizens out of their homes in east jerusalem in 2024. 

            You're a fool and an ignorant one at that...  same old....
       You go on & on about Ethnic cleansing, but the only Ethnic Cleansing that has actually occurred since 1948 is what the Arab world has committed against the Jews...... Hundreds of Thousands of Jews (800,000 estimated) had been displaced or exiled from Arab Lands since 1948..... Laws created in these countries to limit their Jewish populations to the status of non-class citizens... Private properties, assets & businesses seized from them...    Many of these Jews lived nowhere near the disputed Israel / Palestinian territory and had nothing to do with that conflict, yet that was used as an excuse to steal from and banish them...   

         Have the Gazan & West Bank Arabs lost real estate over the years?... You bet, and I made it abundantly clear why.. It was the consequences of initiating Wars & Attacks on Israel, then coming up the loser... That's not called Ethnic Cleansing... THat's called FAFO, and tough ****. 

         Do you have any clue how stupid you look insisting the Israelis want to banish all the Arabs from that land ---- You site the 15% of the self-loathing Ultra Orthodox to validate your Anti-Zionist position, but neglect to mention 2.1 Million Arabs (20% of the Population) live freely in Israel ---- they haven't been robbed of their identities or belongings... They identify themselves as Palestinians, or Israeli Arabs, and none are seeking to leave their lives in Israel to live under Fatah or Hamas....  How many Jews live in Gaza??? ---- ZERO. 

         Take a look at this..... Since you've no clue what real Ethnic Cleansing looks like, this should help, though it's doubtful you'll grasp it..... Populations of Jews in Arab Lands 1948, and today....
1. Iraq - 1948 .. 135,000...   Iraq Today 4
2. Yemen - 1948... 63,000 .... Yemen Today 1
3. Algeria - 1948... 140,000....   Algeria Today 60
4. Egypt - 1948... 75,000 ....  Egypt Today 3
5. Lebanon - 1948... 5,000 .... Lebanon Today 25
6. Libya - 1948... 38,000 .... Libya Today 0
7. Morocco 1948... 265,000 .... Morocco Today 2,000
8. Syria 1948... 30,000 .... Syria Today 4
9. Tunisia 1948 ... 105,000 .... Tunisia Today 1,500

        

         
 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Mar 2024, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 8:30 pm

Clarity at last. Thank you.

@golfboy  ?

an example of how it worked.-- a new ruler would take over a village and read the passage and then tell all the jews to leave. 

Kobia2 » 06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am

            You're a fool and an ignorant one at that...  same old....
       You go on & on about Ethnic cleansing, but the only Ethnic Cleansing that has actually occurred since 1948 is what the Arab world has committed against the Jews...... Hundreds of Thousands of Jews (800,000 estimated) had been displaced or exiled from Arab Lands since 1948..... Laws created in these countries to limit their Jewish populations to the status of non-class citizens... Private properties, assets & businesses seized from them...    Many of these Jews lived nowhere near the disputed Israel / Palestinian territory and had nothing to do with that conflict, yet that was used as an excuse to steal from and banish them...   

         Have the Gazan & West Bank Arabs lost real estate over the years?... You bet, and I made it abundantly clear why.. It was the consequences of initiating Wars & Attacks on Israel, then coming up the loser... That's not called Ethnic Cleansing... THat's called FAFO, and tough ****. 

         Do you have any clue how stupid you look insisting the Israelis want to banish all the Arabs from that land ---- You site the 15% of the self-loathing Ultra Orthodox to validate your Anti-Zionist position, but neglect to mention 2.1 Million Arabs (20% of the Population) live freely in Israel ---- they haven't been robbed of their identities or belongings... They identify themselves as Palestinians, or Israeli Arabs, and none are seeking to leave their lives in Israel to live under Fatah or Hamas....  How many Jews live in Gaza??? ---- ZERO. 

         Take a look at this..... Since you've no clue what real Ethnic Cleansing looks like, this should help, though it's doubtful you'll grasp it..... Populations of Jews in Arab Lands 1948, and today....
1. Iraq - 1948 .. 135,000...   Iraq Today 4
2. Yemen - 1948... 63,000 .... Yemen Today 1
3. Algeria - 1948... 140,000....   Algeria Today 60
4. Egypt - 1948... 75,000 ....  Egypt Today 3
5. Lebanon - 1948... 5,000 .... Lebanon Today 25
6. Libya - 1948... 38,000 .... Libya Today 0
7. Morocco 1948... 265,000 .... Morocco Today 2,000
8. Syria 1948... 30,000 .... Syria Today 4
9. Tunisia 1948 ... 105,000 .... Tunisia Today 1,500

        

        

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How many Jews live in Saudi Arabia?
According to some Jewish expatriates living in the Kingdom, there are around 3,000 Jews who currently reside in Saudi Arabia, mostly from the US, Canada, France, and South Africa.

Kobia2 » 06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am

            You're a fool and an ignorant one at that...  same old....
       You go on & on about Ethnic cleansing, but the only Ethnic Cleansing that has actually occurred since 1948 is what the Arab world has committed against the Jews...... Hundreds of Thousands of Jews (800,000 estimated) had been displaced or exiled from Arab Lands since 1948..... Laws created in these countries to limit their Jewish populations to the status of non-class citizens... Private properties, assets & businesses seized from them...    Many of these Jews lived nowhere near the disputed Israel / Palestinian territory and had nothing to do with that conflict, yet that was used as an excuse to steal from and banish them...   

         Have the Gazan & West Bank Arabs lost real estate over the years?... You bet, and I made it abundantly clear why.. It was the consequences of initiating Wars & Attacks on Israel, then coming up the loser... That's not called Ethnic Cleansing... THat's called FAFO, and tough ****. 

         Do you have any clue how stupid you look insisting the Israelis want to banish all the Arabs from that land ---- You site the 15% of the self-loathing Ultra Orthodox to validate your Anti-Zionist position, but neglect to mention 2.1 Million Arabs (20% of the Population) live freely in Israel ---- they haven't been robbed of their identities or belongings... They identify themselves as Palestinians, or Israeli Arabs, and none are seeking to leave their lives in Israel to live under Fatah or Hamas....  How many Jews live in Gaza??? ---- ZERO. 

         Take a look at this..... Since you've no clue what real Ethnic Cleansing looks like, this should help, though it's doubtful you'll grasp it..... Populations of Jews in Arab Lands 1948, and today....
1. Iraq - 1948 .. 135,000...   Iraq Today 4
2. Yemen - 1948... 63,000 .... Yemen Today 1
3. Algeria - 1948... 140,000....   Algeria Today 60
4. Egypt - 1948... 75,000 ....  Egypt Today 3
5. Lebanon - 1948... 5,000 .... Lebanon Today 25
6. Libya - 1948... 38,000 .... Libya Today 0
7. Morocco 1948... 265,000 .... Morocco Today 2,000
8. Syria 1948... 30,000 .... Syria Today 4
9. Tunisia 1948 ... 105,000 .... Tunisia Today 1,500

        

        

were they killed? or did they just go to israel?

Cannonpointer » 05 Mar 2024, 11:10 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Mar 2024, 11:10 pm

It is inarguable that they want the palis gone from gaza. You wouldn't? Have you heard of Oct 7 at all? Of COURSE they want them gone - don't play stupid. It's a bad look.

There's a **** of offshore oil there that belongs in part to whoever holds gaza. Only a partisan dunderhead would try to deny israel wants that land freed up. As to how they might accomplish that, I am sure they would pay me many millions to share the secret, if I knew. But what the heck - I'll take a swing.

Hmmm...They could create an emergency, and use that emergency as a pretext. In this case, I would think maybe bomb the place to rubble, accidentally making it uninhabitable, and then - for HUMANITARIAN reasons, you understand - resettling the reservation trash to a different reservation.

I hear the west bank has openings.

The same way you figure the Sioux Indians do not have a state to govern. They have been the sole administrator of that land since 1868. And the south african tribes were the sole administrators of THEIR "homelands." 

Yes, yes - there is a good pretext. And a good pretext is almost the same as self-government and statehood. Maybe they can use it as a passport.

Yes, I mean that. Countries are not eager for a couple of million more refugees, especially those with - how shall I put this... a troubled past.

If the palis had passports, they could certainly make their way to mexico and cross our borders. But they don't, so they can't. Israel will not let them form a state and will not give them israeli passports. They are people without a country. You have no idea what that means. Hell, you don't even know what ethnic cleansing means.

And the only possible way for people without passports to make europe is as boat people. Palestine is a long way from europe, and I doubt whether many palestinians have the courage to float barges through IDF-infested waters. However wonderful and compassionate YOU may feel the IDF is, the palis' experience of the IDF may vary. 

          Pssst..... If the Israelis wanted Gaza, they would have accomplished such,  as they certainly had plenty of time in the years between 1967 & 2005 when they had the military presence to displace the entire population, as you believe is their objective and then annex the Strip into Israel.. And if it were in Israel's plans to do so now, that could also be achieved without putting a Boot on the ground... They can simply indiscriminately carpet bomb & shell Gaza by Land - Air - & Sea... Basically what your flock is accusing them of doing now.... 

          Regarding the offshore Oil, there were several Foreign Firms who had made agreements with the Palestinian Authority to invest and start up drilling operations ------ The Foreign Investors bailed, and those plans came to an abrupt end after Hamas took control of Gaza.... 

          Care to share your thoughts as to what you believe the end game should be ?... Should Hamas remain intact as a governing and military entity which will continue to attack Israel and its people?.... Should Hamas surrender to end the carnage & suffering of the Gazans?... Should the IDF offer its unconditional surrender to Hamas?...  

         

           

           

          
 

jerrab » 06 Mar 2024, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 9:27 am

were they killed? or did they just go to israel?

           Some were killed, many were stripped of their rights, and were ordered or intimidated out... Many owned properties, assets, businesses etc which were confiscated, allowing the banished Jews to leave with just a suitcase...

           Most of these people sought refuge / asylum in Israel, Canada and the USA.

jerrab » 06 Mar 2024, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 9:26 am

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How many Jews live in Saudi Arabia?
According to some Jewish expatriates living in the Kingdom, there are around 3,000 Jews who currently reside in Saudi Arabia, mostly from the US, Canada, France, and South Africa.

      I'm not positive, but I believe the Jews there are foreign and for work purposes... I don't believe any Jews or non-Muslims are permitted to be Saudi Citizens. 

Kobia2 » 06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am

            You're a fool and an ignorant one at that...  same old....
       You go on & on about Ethnic cleansing, but the only Ethnic Cleansing that has actually occurred since 1948 is what the Arab world has committed against the Jews...... Hundreds of Thousands of Jews (800,000 estimated) had been displaced or exiled from Arab Lands since 1948..... Laws created in these countries to limit their Jewish populations to the status of non-class citizens... Private properties, assets & businesses seized from them...    Many of these Jews lived nowhere near the disputed Israel / Palestinian territory and had nothing to do with that conflict, yet that was used as an excuse to steal from and banish them...   

         Have the Gazan & West Bank Arabs lost real estate over the years?... You bet, and I made it abundantly clear why.. It was the consequences of initiating Wars & Attacks on Israel, then coming up the loser... That's not called Ethnic Cleansing... THat's called FAFO, and tough ****. 

         Do you have any clue how stupid you look insisting the Israelis want to banish all the Arabs from that land ---- You site the 15% of the self-loathing Ultra Orthodox to validate your Anti-Zionist position, but neglect to mention 2.1 Million Arabs (20% of the Population) live freely in Israel ---- they haven't been robbed of their identities or belongings... They identify themselves as Palestinians, or Israeli Arabs, and none are seeking to leave their lives in Israel to live under Fatah or Hamas....  How many Jews live in Gaza??? ---- ZERO. 

         Take a look at this..... Since you've no clue what real Ethnic Cleansing looks like, this should help, though it's doubtful you'll grasp it..... Populations of Jews in Arab Lands 1948, and today....
1. Iraq - 1948 .. 135,000...   Iraq Today 4
2. Yemen - 1948... 63,000 .... Yemen Today 1
3. Algeria - 1948... 140,000....   Algeria Today 60
4. Egypt - 1948... 75,000 ....  Egypt Today 3
5. Lebanon - 1948... 5,000 .... Lebanon Today 25
6. Libya - 1948... 38,000 .... Libya Today 0
7. Morocco 1948... 265,000 .... Morocco Today 2,000
8. Syria 1948... 30,000 .... Syria Today 4
9. Tunisia 1948 ... 105,000 .... Tunisia Today 1,500

        

        

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jews-of-morocco


Nonetheless, before his death in 1999, King Hassan tried to protect the Jewish population, and at present Morocco has one of the most tolerant environments for Jews in the Arab world. The constitution recognizes the Jewish community as an integral component of society.According to the State Department, A separate set of laws and special courts govern personal status matters for Jews, including functions such as marriage, inheritance, and other personal status matters. Rabbinical authorities, who are also court officials, administer Jewish family courts. According to the law, a Muslim man may marry a Christian or Jewish woman; a Muslim woman may not marry a man of another religion unless he converts to Islam.3aMoroccan Jewish emigres, even those with Israeli citizenship, freely visit friends and relatives in Morocco. Moroccan Jews have held leading positions in the business community and government. The major Jewish organization representing the community is the Conseil des Communautes Israelites in Casablanca. Its functions include external relations, general communal affairs, communal heritage, finance, maintenance of holy places, youth activities, and cultural and religious life.4
 
 

Kobia2 » 06 Mar 2024, 10:00 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 10:00 am

      I'm not positive, but I believe the Jews there are foreign and for work purposes... I don't believe any Jews or non-Muslims are permitted to be Saudi Citizens. 

jews in saudia arabia 

--------------------------------------------Contemporary PeriodAccording to Yemenite Jewish tradition, the Jews of Najrān trace their origin to the Ten Tribes. They lived in the region of Najrān in Saudi Arabia and were the only group of Yemenite Jews who lived outside Yemen under the rule of another kingdom. On the strength of the laws of the desert and tribal protection, they were not subjected to persecution as were the Jews of Yemen. They enjoyed the same equality of rights as the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, were not taxed, and did not pay the *jizya (the poll tax imposed on non-Muslims in the Muslim countries "in exchange for the protection" granted them by the government). The Bedouin of Saudi Arabia, who belonged to the Sunni Islam sect, practiced religious tolerance toward them and ate meat slaughtered under their laws of sheḥitah. The Jews of Najrān carried weapons in self-defense, as did the other inhabitants, and were renowned for their courage and strength. There was no other place in the Arabian Peninsula where Jews lived in such dignity and freedom as in Najrān. By profession they were craftsmen: they worked essentially in goldsmithing and repairing arms. They earned a good livelihood and their material conditions

Kobia2 » 06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 9:05 am

            You're a fool and an ignorant one at that...  same old....
       You go on & on about Ethnic cleansing, but the only Ethnic Cleansing that has actually occurred since 1948 is what the Arab world has committed against the Jews...... Hundreds of Thousands of Jews (800,000 estimated) had been displaced or exiled from Arab Lands since 1948..... Laws created in these countries to limit their Jewish populations to the status of non-class citizens... Private properties, assets & businesses seized from them...    Many of these Jews lived nowhere near the disputed Israel / Palestinian territory and had nothing to do with that conflict, yet that was used as an excuse to steal from and banish them...   

         Have the Gazan & West Bank Arabs lost real estate over the years?... You bet, and I made it abundantly clear why.. It was the consequences of initiating Wars & Attacks on Israel, then coming up the loser... That's not called Ethnic Cleansing... THat's called FAFO, and tough ****. 

         Do you have any clue how stupid you look insisting the Israelis want to banish all the Arabs from that land ---- You site the 15% of the self-loathing Ultra Orthodox to validate your Anti-Zionist position, but neglect to mention 2.1 Million Arabs (20% of the Population) live freely in Israel ---- they haven't been robbed of their identities or belongings... They identify themselves as Palestinians, or Israeli Arabs, and none are seeking to leave their lives in Israel to live under Fatah or Hamas....  How many Jews live in Gaza??? ---- ZERO. 

         Take a look at this..... Since you've no clue what real Ethnic Cleansing looks like, this should help, though it's doubtful you'll grasp it..... Populations of Jews in Arab Lands 1948, and today....
1. Iraq - 1948 .. 135,000...   Iraq Today 4
2. Yemen - 1948... 63,000 .... Yemen Today 1
3. Algeria - 1948... 140,000....   Algeria Today 60
4. Egypt - 1948... 75,000 ....  Egypt Today 3
5. Lebanon - 1948... 5,000 .... Lebanon Today 25
6. Libya - 1948... 38,000 .... Libya Today 0
7. Morocco 1948... 265,000 .... Morocco Today 2,000
8. Syria 1948... 30,000 .... Syria Today 4
9. Tunisia 1948 ... 105,000 .... Tunisia Today 1,500

        

        

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/opinion-a- ... -uae/Being the first Jewish person to plant a date tree in Madinah for 1400 years was a “pinch me” moment and deeply appreciated by me and each of the group of Jews, Christians and Muslims on our trip, who were also invited to plant a tree.The tree-planting felt like a symbol of the tremendous changes taking place in Saudi Arabia and especially in its attitudes toward people of other religions.These changes are led from the top down by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and are embodied in Saudi’s “Vision 2030” blueprint which remarkably contained a definition of Islamic Values as those of “moderation and tolerance”.These changes were evident to our group in a visit I arranged earlier this month to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Our meetings with Saudi Ambassadors, heads of various important educational institutions including one “building bridges with diverse peoples and cultures” as well as artists and local communities suggested that these changes are already penetrating deep into the system.For example, as the recent Impact-se review showed, the enmity toward Jews that used to be contained in school textbooks in Saudi Arabia has been almost completely ripped out. And since 50% of the population of Saudi Arabia is less than 20 years old, it can be hoped that these changes will have an immediate impact.
 

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/opinion-a- ... ae/OPINION: Jews are not merely tolerated in Saudi Arabia and the UAE, we are embraced