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maineman » 29 Feb 2024, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 10:54 am

link?

:rofl:   :rofl:  

it is evolving into fruition now. Learn to understand the depth of what now is doing on a universal scale.

maineman » 23 Feb 2024, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Feb 2024, 2:20 pm

A great article and a relatively short read for you MAGAts and ESLers:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/39 ... st-decade/

Dobbs, Georgia, The ineptitude of the House majority, and Trump continuing to rail about racial purity and immigrants ruining America are all counter-productive to the GOP finding their mojo again anytime soon.

Add to that, the Democrat's superior GOTV ground game and 2024 is looking bleak for the Grand Old Party, even before any felony convictions drive nails into its coffin.

sad you **** democrats are trying to rebuild your base with **** scumsucking illegals

FJB » 29 Feb 2024, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 10:55 am

you never give links... **** off you POS fake

the lady in the video was never even charged, let alone found guilty of ANYTHING.  You know that @FJB  is lying if his lips are moving.

FJB » 29 Feb 2024, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 10:58 am

sad you **** democrats are trying to rebuild your base with **** scumsucking illegals

Deprogram the illegals same way one has to deprogram citizens of this country. Same method works for all same way corruption works the other way corrupting ancestors cradle to grave each great great grandchild added forward now.

maineman » 29 Feb 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 11:04 am

the lady in the video was never even charged, let alone found guilty of ANYTHING.  You know that @FJB  is lying if his lips are moving.

she lost her job

maineman » 29 Feb 2024, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 10:40 am

There was nothing illegal about her actions.  She wasn't even arrested or charged with a crime.

In America, innocence is PRESUMED.

Designees are legally allowed under Connecticut law, to mail completed absentee ballots. She used a totally legal method that was specifically enumerated in that law.

I don't need any evidence to prove her presumed innocence, the burden is solely on you to prove her guilt, which you aren't quite man enough to admit you don't have.

So you're saying that dropping dozens of ballots at various drop boxes isn't worthy of her actions being investigated for her crime?
Guess I'd be innocent of robbing that bank despite the overwhelming evidence shown on surveillance video if I wasn't prosecuted, huh?
I'm sure the kind of "justice" you approve of is when the Democrat AG chooses to prosecute Trump for stealing unclassified documents but when the VP who appointed you steals classified docs, he's determined to be unfit to stand trial, right?
It's SELECTIVE PROSECUTION, and that's exactly what took place the minute Biden was handed the presidency.  Go ahead and deny that!
That's Democrat justice as far as you're concerned, isn't it?  

 

Zeets2 » 29 Feb 2024, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 11:35 am

So you're saying that dropping dozens of ballots at various drop boxes isn't worthy of her actions being investigated for her crime?
Guess I'd be innocent of robbing that bank despite the overwhelming evidence shown on surveillance video if I wasn't prosecuted, huh?
I'm sure the kind of "justice" you approve of is when the Democrat AG chooses to prosecute Trump for stealing unclassified documents but when the VP who appointed you steals classified docs, he's determined to be unfit to stand trial, right?
It's SELECTIVE PROSECUTION, and that's exactly what took place the minute Biden was handed the presidency.  Go ahead and deny that!
That's Democrat justice as far as you're concerned, isn't it?

The act of removing money at gunpoint from a bank is clearly illegal.  The act of merely dropping ballots into a box specifically designed for people to drop ballots into is NOT clearly illegal.  You have repeatedly and erroneously attempted to characterize her acts as prima facie illegal.  You have been proven wrong.  You should be a big boy and put on your big boy pants and just admit that you were wrong.

And the democrat AG did not choose to prosecute Trump for stealing classified documents.  The Special Prosecutor appointed by the AG determined that  Trump's actions in taking the documents, displaying those documents to civilians without clearance or need to know, and then, repeatedly refusing to answer questions about those documents or to turn those documents back over when repeatedly asked constituted a clear violation of the Presidential Records Act.  

And the Special Prosecutor that looked into the documents that Biden voluntarily turned over and who was allowed to interview Biden for hours concerning those documents determined that his actions did not warrant indictment, and, even if they HAD, said indictment would have been held in abeyance until Biden was no longer POTUS.

FJB » 29 Feb 2024, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 11:07 am

she lost her job

false.

maineman » 29 Feb 2024, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 2:54 pm

The act of removing money at gunpoint from a bank is clearly illegal.  The act of merely dropping ballots into a box specifically designed for people to drop ballots into is NOT clearly illegal.  You have repeatedly and erroneously attempted to characterize her acts as prima facie illegal.  You have been proven wrong.  You should be a big boy and put on your big boy pants and just admit that you were wrong.

And the democrat AG did not choose to prosecute Trump for stealing classified documents.  The Special Prosecutor appointed by the AG determined that  Trump's actions in taking the documents, displaying those documents to civilians without clearance or need to know, and then, repeatedly refusing to answer questions about those documents or to turn those documents back over when repeatedly asked constituted a clear violation of the Presidential Records Act.  

And the Special Prosecutor that looked into the documents that Biden voluntarily turned over and who was allowed to interview Biden for hours concerning those documents determined that his actions did not warrant indictment, and, even if they HAD, said indictment would have been held in abeyance until Biden was no longer POTUS.

It's ONLY not clear to gullible libs like you who only won the election due to this exact kind of fraud, and I will NEVER admit that this woman didn't commit a crime IF ONLY IT WAS INVESTIGATED!  And it was NOT investigated because we have a totally corrupt DOJ, AG, and a fraudulent president who actually lost in 2020!

Now to your next pile of ****, it doesn't matter whether Biden "voluntarily" turned over the classified documents when he was caught!  The fact is that as a Vice President, HE NEVER HAD THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THOSE CLASSIFIED DOCS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!  Conversely, Trump DID have the right to do so, and he NEVER refused to turn them over when ordered to, you lying scumbag!  And once again, your corrupted DOJ and AG whitewashed Biden's far more serious crimes, (which included leaving CLASSIFIED MATERIAL UNSECURED IN HIS GARAGE and in a closet that gave access to China and in his home where his junkie son lived while he was peddling influence to China) while your corrupt DOJ raided the Trump home with guns drawn!

But you'll never admit to the two-tiered justice system run by Biden or the fraud you Democrats committed BECAUSE YOU LOVE CORRUPTION WHEN IT'S USED AGAINST TRUMP!
 

Zeets2 » 29 Feb 2024, 3:22 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 3:22 pm

It's ONLY not clear to gullible libs like you who only won the election due to this exact kind of fraud, and I will NEVER admit that this woman didn't commit a crime IF ONLY IT WAS INVESTIGATED!  And it was NOT investigated because we have a totally corrupt DOJ, AG, and a fraudulent president who actually lost in 2020!

Now to your next pile of ****, it doesn't matter whether Biden "voluntarily" turned over the classified documents when he was caught!  The fact is that as a Vice President, HE NEVER HAD THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THOSE CLASSIFIED DOCS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!  Conversely, Trump DID have the right to do so, and he NEVER refused to turn them over when ordered to, you lying scumbag!  And once again, your corrupted DOJ and AG whitewashed Biden's far more serious crimes, (which included leaving CLASSIFIED MATERIAL UNSECURED IN HIS GARAGE and in a closet that gave access to China and in his home where his junkie son lived while he was peddling influence to China) while your corrupt DOJ raided the Trump home with guns drawn!

But you'll never admit to the two-tiered justice system run by Biden or the fraud you Democrats committed BECAUSE YOU LOVE CORRUPTION WHEN IT'S USED AGAINST TRUMP!

Are we to investigate every person who dropped more than one ballot into any ballot drop box around the country because what they did MIGHT have been illegal?   Why HAVE drop boxes if not so people can drop ballots into them?

Biden won by the same exactly electoral landslide that Trump used to defeat Hillary.  The fact that you cannot accept that fact is sad.  

Trump did not have the right to remove classified documents from the White House.  If he had actually taken the time to declassify any of them - which he did not -  then they could have been removed, but he still would have been liable for violations of the Espionage Act merely by showing documents sensitive to national security to people without the need to know such information - which he did.

The fact that there are poor men in prison for selling marijuana while Donald Trump can walk free after defrauding banks of millions and millions of dollars is all the proof I need to know that there is indeed a two-tier justice system, but it is not based upon party, but upon socio-economic status

https://apnews.com/article/trump-justic ... eef21efff3#

maineman » 29 Feb 2024, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 2:54 pm

The act of removing money at gunpoint from a bank is clearly illegal.  The act of merely dropping ballots into a box specifically designed for people to drop ballots into is NOT clearly illegal.  You have repeatedly and erroneously attempted to characterize her acts as prima facie illegal.  

thank you for showing my accuracy about using reasonable doubt against honest ancestors by corrupted people like yourself defending hypothetical values until extinction arrives.

Well that point of no return is here today because life has never exceeded evolving in the moment here.

maineman » 29 Feb 2024, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Feb 2024, 3:34 pm

Are we to investigate every person who dropped more than one ballot into any ballot drop box around the country because what they did MIGHT have been illegal?   Why HAVE drop boxes if not so people can drop ballots into them?

Biden won by the same exactly electoral landslide that Trump used to defeat Hillary.  The fact that you cannot accept that fact is sad.

Are we to investigate every person who dropped more than one ballot into any ballot drop box around the country because what they did MIGHT have been illegal?   Why HAVE drop boxes if not so people can drop ballots into them?
No, but I'd investigate every person who dropped more than 4 ballots in a drop box seen on video AND EVERY PERSON who has been caught on video driving from one part of town to another to drop them in a different box in order to hide their obvious crime.  In most cases, their car and license are visible and they can easily be found and investigated for fraud and/or election interference.  And honest people CAN use them as they were intended, and the LEGAL way to submit multiple ballots is to hand deliver them to the municipal clerk who can confirm the identities and the signatures of authentic ballots
Biden won by the same exactly electoral landslide that Trump used to defeat Hillary.  The fact that you cannot accept that fact is sad.
Good!  I strive to make ignorant liberals sad, angry, and sputtering with rage and incoherent **** just like Biden and Kamala do!
Thanks for helping me succeed in that venture. 

Trump did not have the right to remove classified documents from the White House.  If he had actually taken the time to declassify any of them - which he did not -  then they could have been removed, but he still would have been liable for violations of the Espionage Act merely by showing documents sensitive to national security to people without the need to know such information - which he did.
****!  Trump DID declassify the documents he took from the White House, a fact you're never told on CNN and MSNBC, obviously since you're ignorant of that fact:

In one of his final acts, Trump declassifies documents on FBI's Russia probe
Reuters January 19, 2021
[url]http://In one of his final acts, Trump declassifies documents on FBI's Russia probe Reuters January 19, 2021[/url]

 

President Trump declassifies documents on the origins of FBI's Russia investigation 'to the maximum extent possible' just hours before he leaves office

• Trump on Tuesday declassified documents related to FBI's Russia investigation 
• Probe looked into whether Trump campaign colluded with Russia in 2016 
• Investigation began when James Comey headed the FBI under Barack Obama 
• After Trump fired Comey in 2017, Robert Mueller was named special counsel 
• Mueller probe ultimately found no evidence of Trump-Russia conspiracy 
• Trump has called Russia probe a 'witch hunt' aimed at discrediting presidency 

UK Daily Mail 1/19/21
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... probe.html

The fact that there are poor men in prison for selling marijuana while Donald Trump can walk free after defrauding banks of millions and millions of dollars is all the proof I need to know that there is indeed a two-tier justice system, but it is not based upon party, but upon socio-economic status
Tell us, genius.  What banks was defrauded out of millions and millions of dollars, you lying scumbag?

 
 

Zeets2 » 01 Mar 2024, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 9:16 am

Are we to investigate every person who dropped more than one ballot into any ballot drop box around the country because what they did MIGHT have been illegal?   Why HAVE drop boxes if not so people can drop ballots into them?
No, but I'd investigate every person who dropped more than 4 ballots in a drop box seen on video AND EVERY PERSON who has been caught on video driving from one part of town to another to drop them in a different box in order to hide their obvious crime.  In most cases, their car and license are visible and they can easily be found and investigated for fraud and/or election interference.  And honest people CAN use them as they were intended, and the LEGAL way to submit multiple ballots is to hand deliver them to the municipal clerk who can confirm the identities and the signatures of authentic ballots
Biden won by the same exactly electoral landslide that Trump used to defeat Hillary.  The fact that you cannot accept that fact is sad.
Good!  I strive to make ignorant liberals sad, angry, and sputtering with rage and incoherent **** just like Biden and Kamala do!
Thanks for helping me succeed in that venture. 

Trump did not have the right to remove classified documents from the White House.  If he had actually taken the time to declassify any of them - which he did not -  then they could have been removed, but he still would have been liable for violations of the Espionage Act merely by showing documents sensitive to national security to people without the need to know such information - which he did.
****!  Trump DID declassify the documents he took from the White House, a fact you're never told on CNN and MSNBC, obviously since you're ignorant of that fact:

The fact that there are poor men in prison for selling marijuana while Donald Trump can walk free after defrauding banks of millions and millions of dollars is all the proof I need to know that there is indeed a two-tier justice system, but it is not based upon party, but upon socio-economic status
Tell us, genius.  What banks was [sic]defrauded out of millions and millions of dollars, you lying scumbag?

What you would do is really irrelevant.  If you want to investigate everyone who drops more than four, what you should do is put in your papers to run in your local primary for your neighborhood state legislative seat.  Win the primary, win the general election, submit legislation that requires investigations of anyone dropping more than four ballots off, get your caucus to support the bill, and see if you can get the entire legislature to back it, and the governor to sign it.  Until THAT happens, STFU.  The actions of the black lady in the video are not illegal.  Dropping ballots into the drop boxes provided is ALSO a LEGAL way to submit ballots an that does NOT require any involvement by the municipal clerk.

And when I say your foolish refusal to accept reality is sad, I mean that in the same sense as saying that the mentally retarded paraplegic begging for nickels on the street corner is sad... even as I chuckle at him.  See?  Your pathetic whining is a source of HUMOR for me.

Merely claiming that documents are declassified does not make them so.  There is a process which he did not follow.  And, as I stated, declassified or NOT, the content of the documents was still sensitive to our national security and showing them to those who do not have a need to know the information contained on them is a violation of the Espionage Act.  "Classification" is not even mentioned in that act.

The banks that he was found guilty of defrauding just last month.
 
 

shoooooweeeee....looks like the forums most credible posters are kicking the living **** out of maine"man in a dress" supporter.

His fake outrage and fake disbelieve doesn't seem to be serving him too well either.

nefarious101 » 01 Mar 2024, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 10:02 am

shoooooweeeee....looks like the forums most credible posters are kicking the living **** out of maine"man in a dress" supporter.

His fake outrage and fake disbelieve [sic] doesn't seem to be serving him too well either.

again... is english your second language?

Do you understand that document classification is irrelevant to the Espionage Act?

Do you understand that drop boxes are totally legal in Ohio?

Do you understand that Trump was found guilty of defrauding banks and is ordered to pay a half a billion dollars in fines?
 

maineman » 01 Mar 2024, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 9:54 am

What you would do is really irrelevant.  If you want to investigate everyone who drops more than four, what you should do is put in your papers to run in your local primary for your neighborhood state legislative seat.  Win the primary, win the general election, submit legislation that requires investigations of anyone dropping more than four ballots off, get your caucus to support the bill, and see if you can get the entire legislature to back it, and the governor to sign it.  Until THAT happens, STFU.  The actions of the black lady in the video are not illegal.  Dropping ballots into the drop boxes provided is ALSO a LEGAL way to submit ballots an that does NOT require any involvement by the municipal clerk.

And when I say your foolish refusal to accept reality is sad, I mean that in the same sense as saying that the mentally retarded paraplegic begging for nickels on the street corner is sad... even as I chuckle at him.  See?  Your pathetic whining is a source of HUMOR for me.

Merely claiming that documents are declassified does not make them so.  There is a process which he did not follow.  And, as I stated, declassified or NOT, the content of the documents was still sensitive to our national security and showing them to those who do not have a need to know the information contained on them is a violation of the Espionage Act.  "Classification" is not even mentioned in that act.

The banks that he was found guilty of defrauding just last month.
 
 

So everything you do is relevant to what you believe true regardless how life actually is evolving naturally here.

maineman » 01 Mar 2024, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 9:54 am

What you would do is really irrelevant.  If you want to investigate everyone who drops more than four, what you should do is put in your papers to run in your local primary for your neighborhood state legislative seat.  Win the primary, win the general election, submit legislation that requires investigations of anyone dropping more than four ballots off, get your caucus to support the bill, and see if you can get the entire legislature to back it, and the governor to sign it.  Until THAT happens, STFU.  The actions of the black lady in the video are not illegal.

And when I say your foolish refusal to accept reality is sad, I mean that in the same sense as saying that the mentally retarded paraplegic begging for nickels on the street corner is sad... even as I chuckle at him.  See?

Merely claiming that documents are declassified does not make them so.  There is a process which he did not follow.  

The banks that he was found guilty of defrauding just last month.

What you would do is really irrelevant.  If you want to investigate everyone who drops more than four, what you should do is put in your papers to run in your local primary for your neighborhood state legislative seat.  Win the primary, win the general election, submit legislation that requires investigations of anyone dropping more than four ballots off, get your caucus to support the bill, and see if you can get the entire legislature to back it, and the governor to sign it.  Until THAT happens, STFU.  The actions of the black lady in the video are not illegal.
Far easier than that would be if you liberal idiots would FOLLOW THE LAW REGARDING ILLEGAL HARVESTING AND INVESTIGATE THOSE ON VIDEO THAT ARE SUSPECTED OF ELECTION CRIMES, whether they be white or black, Democrat or Republican!
But you don't want that because you're happy with the Democrat fraud that won you idiots a president who actually lost the last election!
And when I say your foolish refusal to accept reality is sad, I mean that in the same sense as saying that the mentally retarded paraplegic begging for nickels on the street corner is sad... even as I chuckle at him.  See?
There's that liberal compassion we always hear about but never really see, huh?  
So tell us, how often do you point and laugh at the poor, the paraplegics, and the mentally retarded when you pass them?
You see, the rest of us humans who actually have a soul DO NOT chuckle at them but pity them instead of acting like a scumbag like you who laughs at them!

Merely claiming that documents are declassified does not make them so.  There is a process which he did not follow.  
****!  You know NOTHING about what authority a president has to declassify documents:The Constitution, executive orders and case law clearly give the president broad authority to classify and declassify documents. Similarly, prevailing law also requires federal officials to follow certain procedures in declassifying documents to establish specificity and memorialization for future handling. But the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without those formalities — has yet to be challenged in court.
The banks that he was found guilty of defrauding just last month.
And it will be overturned on appeal, I guarantee it!  Do you doubt that?  If so, tell me which banks he defrauded, fool!
Then explain why Biden, WHO NEVER HAD THE POWER AS VP TO DECLASSIFY ANYTHING, still stole classified documents and stored them in various UNSECURED area of his home, office, and garage, AND YET HAS BEEN FOUND TOO INCOMPETENT TO BE CHARGED WITH HIS CRIMES?
 
 
 

Zeets2 » 01 Mar 2024, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 10:26 am

1.Far easier than that would be if you liberal idiots would FOLLOW THE LAW REGARDING ILLEGAL HARVESTING AND INVESTIGATE THOSE ON VIDEO THAT ARE SUSPECTED OF ELECTION CRIMES, whether they be white or black, Democrat or Republican!
But you don't want that because you're happy with the Democrat fraud that won you idiots a president who actually lost the last election!

2. There's that liberal compassion we always hear about but never really see, huh?  
So tell us, how often do you point and laugh at the poor, the paraplegics, and the mentally retarded when you pass them?
You see, the rest of us humans who actually have a soul DO NOT chuckle at them but pity them instead of acting like a scumbag like you who laughs at them!

3. ****!  You know NOTHING about what authority a president has to declassify documents:The Constitution, executive orders and case law clearly give the president broad authority to classify and declassify documents. Similarly, prevailing law also requires federal officials to follow certain procedures in declassifying documents to establish specificity and memorialization for future handling. But the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without those formalities — has yet to be challenged in court.

4. And it will be overturned on appeal, I guarantee it!  Do you doubt that?  If so, tell me which banks he defrauded, fool!
Then explain why Biden, WHO NEVER HAD THE POWER AS VP TO DECLASSIFY ANYTHING, still stole classified documents and stored them in various UNSECURED area of his home, office, and garage, AND YET HAS BEEN FOUND TOO INCOMPETENT TO BE CHARGED WITH HIS CRIMES?

1.  You have ZERO evidence that the law was not followed.  Dropping ballots into drop boxes IS legal.  Suck it up.  You spent two days claiming that all ballots MUST be delivered to the Municipal Clerk and then I shoved that idiocy up your well-traveled ***.
2.  I do, in fact, have compassion for those who have been dealt a rough hand through no fault of their own.  YOU?  You have richly earned and deserve every bit of my disdain and my derisive laughter.
3.  I know a great deal about classified documents.  I actually had a TS (SCI)(CNWDI) clearance.  What was yours?
And I know, as you keep tap dancing away from, that the Espionage Act does not require any level of classification.  And his claim to be able to unilaterally declassify anything and eveything by merely thinking about it WILL be challenged in court.  The reason it's never been challenged in court up until now is that we have never had a traitorous insurrectionist as President before.  Thank GOD that'll be a one-off.
4.  You guarantee it?    Wow.  Now that's self-aggrandizement and self-illusion taken to new levels!   
 

maineman » 01 Mar 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2024, 10:08 am

again... is english your second language?

Do you understand that document classification is irrelevant to the Espionage Act?

Do you understand that drop boxes are totally legal in Ohio?

Do you understand that Trump was found guilty of defrauding banks and is ordered to pay a half a billion dollars in fines?

Trump terrifies you doesn't he?.....you are have become completely irrational.  You can't even think normally...hope you still have at least some control over your bodily functions...but I doubt it from what I see here