And Ornato denied telling Hutchinson that storyR.Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 2:14 pm » wrote: ↑ No, ****.
She truthfully testified to a conversation to which she was party.
Given the opportunity to make a liar of her under oath, Tony took a dive.
No, he didn't.
A Secret Service official told CNN that Engel denied that Trump grabbed at the steering wheel or lunged toward an agent on his detail, and that Ornato denied telling Hutchinson such.
The account from Hutchinson about a physical altercation was disputed by Secret Service officials, although they resisted testifying under oath
You stupid, braindead ****.ConsRule » 26 Feb 2024, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑ If you watched the PPC, then you should be able to provide a link to her providing facts (either video of a link to the transcript of her sworn testimony). We'll wait.
Oh..by the way...according to CBS
Tony Ornato, Secret Service official at center of testimony about Trump's actions on Jan. 6, retires - CBS News
Hutchinson testified before the committee that she had met with Ornato and Robert Engel, the Secret Service special agent in charge on Jan. 6, shortly after Trump returned from his address to the White House. According to Hutchinson, during that meeting, Ornato conveyed to her that the president had become "irate" in the car ride back to the White House when he was told that he could not go to the Capitol. He said something to the effect of "'I'm the f***ing president, take me up to the Capitol now,'" Hutchinson recalled.
Notice the parts in bold. She did not witness the incident, her testimony was based on what she was told AND she apparently could not remember what he actually said.
Also, your comment "It's about what Oronato said in the course of the conversation she described." is almost a textbook example of hearsay. And please tell us who the Oronato person is, because I have never heard of him in relation to J6.
Unless you can prove that I didn't, you lose.Vegas » 26 Feb 2024, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑ Nope. You are making a claim that you answer questions, yet you never proved that you do the first time.
That's on you.
Not my problem. Your pic is a lie...but you lie incessantly, so it's no surprise.
Yea, it is.Vegas » 26 Feb 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑ It's not my job to prove a negative. It's your job to prove that you did.
You lose, I win. Your pic is lie. QED.
He plays in your intellectual plateau of not needing a body to have an eternal soul occupying space all the time that character has without ancestral form.R. Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 1:19 pm » wrote: ↑ More vague unsupported ****.
no, she didn't.
I watched it.
****. It was about a conversation to which she was party.
****. It's about what Oronato said in the course of the conversation she described.
When invited back to contradict her, Oronato asserted the "fog of war" defense.
****.
The narrative your offering is riddled with tells.
acknowledge that you're full of ****.
R.Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Yea, it is.
The pic is indisputable evidence that
A) I answer questions
B) You lie
C) You are a moron.
Prove otherwise.
Thanks for proving me right, ******* lolR.Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 2:46 pm » wrote: ↑ The account from Hutchinson about a physical altercation was disputed by Secret Service officials, although they resisted testifying under oath
https://www.nydailynews.com/2022/11/29/ ... ol-attack/
Ornato spoke with the committee in November, and said during that interview he "does not recall that he conveyed the information to Cassidy Hutchinson regarding the SUV." But the committee also said it was "skeptical of Ornato's account."
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald- ... to-2022-12
But in its report, the committee said it had evidence from "several sources" about a "furious interaction" taking place in the SUV. The committee said those sources included "multiple members of the Secret Service, a member of the Metropolitan police, and national security officials in the White House," who described Trump's behavior during the interaction as "irate," "furious," "insistent," "profane" and "heated."
The employee also said a second White House employee with "national security responsibilities" said Ornato told them that Trump was "angry that he couldn't go right away" to the Capitol.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald- ... to-2022-12
A) LieVegas » 26 Feb 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Nope.
A) It doesn't prove that you answer the first time when asked.
B) You lie by reposting that without evidence that you answer the first time.
C) Coming from the person with no thoughts of his own.
Prove you answer questions the first time.
Now coward.
What was told under oath, Ruby?Warcok » 26 Feb 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Thanks for proving me right, ******* lol
The secret service agents involved denied any altercation and Ornato didn't tell Hutchinson that ridiculous story that she told the Jussie 6th Committee
The part Ornato told her IS hearsay. For that part not to be hearsay it would need to have been told to her by the driver...not the driver telling someone who then told her.R.Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑ You stupid, braindead ****.
She described a conversation to which she was party...
THAT IS NOT HEARSAY.
ConsRule » 26 Feb 2024, 3:04 pm » wrote: ↑ The part Ornato told her IS hearsay. For that part not to be hearsay it would need to have been told to her by the driver...not the driver telling someone who then told her.
According to the Legal Information Institute at Cornell School of Law; hearsay | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered to prove the truth of whatever it asserts, which is then offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter. The problem with hearsay is that when the person being quoted is not present, it becomes impossible to establish credibility.
The statement to Bimbo Hutchinson and her statement to the PPC were both out-of-court statements offered as proof of an assertion and it is impossible to prove credibility. Therefore, it is hearsay and not admissible in a court of law.
Just how **** stupid are you?
SHE WAS PARTY TO THE CONVERSATION. SHE TESTIFIED TO WHAT ORNATO TOLD HER.The problem with hearsay is that when the person being quoted is not present,
R.Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑ SHE WAS PARTY TO THE CONVERSATION. SHE TESTIFIED TO WHAT ORNATO TOLD HER.
THAT IS NOT HEARSAY.
**** bimbo.
FYI...you acting like a 3rd grader and striking through everything you don't like doesn't mean it was never posted/said.R.Suave » 26 Feb 2024, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑
SHE WAS PARTY TO THE CONVERSATION. SHE TESTIFIED TO WHAT ORNATO TOLD HER.
THAT IS NOT HEARSAY.
**** bimbo.
You are persisting well past the point where you've been proven uninformed.ConsRule » 26 Feb 2024, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑ FYI...you acting like a 3rd grader and striking through everything you don't like doesn't mean it was never posted/said.
Bimbo Hutchinson can testify to what Ornato told her he SAW. However, he did not see the incident so she CANNOT testify to what someone told Ornato...Ornato has to testify to what someone told him.
It really is that simple.