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Huey » 06 Mar 2024, 11:08 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 11:08 am

If Colt did not have a different design, moron, it would have been a NFA weapon.  And since it was knew to the military it probably would not have been sold to the public.

Go argue with them.  The colt sporter was not designed for combat.  You have been **** wrong about this for 7 **** years.  Go ahead and embarrass yourself again.

I am not arguing with yhou over your stupidity.

It doesn't.

It was modified.

Because you insist on lending your eccentric interpretive stylings there is no point in reading your citations.

 

R.Suave » 06 Mar 2024, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 11:11 am

It doesn't.

It was modified.

Because you insist on lending your eccentric interpretive stylings there is no point in reading your citations.

How you know you've posted The Undisputed Truth.

Huey-14 minutes ago

 

R.Suave » 06 Mar 2024, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 11:20 am

How you know you've posted The Undisputed Truth.


 

 

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Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians

From the embedded classification letter:

...have changed the weapon in basic design to the extent that it is not a "firearm" in the machine gun category as that term is defined in in Section 5848(2) of the National Firearm Act. 

These are all part of the different design:

To prevent a civilian semi-automatic AR-15 from being readily converted for use with the select fire components, several features were changed. Parts changed include the lower receiver, bolt carrier, hammer, trigger, disconnector, and safety/mode selector. The semi-automatic bolt carrier has a longer lightening slot to prevent the bolt's engagement with an automatic sear. Due to a decrease in mass, the buffer spring is heavier. On the select-fire version, the hammer has an extra spur which interacts with the additional auto-sear that holds it back until the bolt carrier group is fully in battery, when the automatic fire is selected.[73] Using a portion of the select fire parts in a semi-automatic rifle will not enable a select fire option (this requires a registered part with the ATF). Lower receivers that are select-fire are identified by a pinhole above the safety/mode selection switch.[74][75][76][77] As designed by Colt, the pins supporting the semi-auto trigger and hammer in the lower receiver are larger than those used in the military rifle to prevent interchangeability between semi-automatic and select-fire components. The pivot pin may also be slightly larger in diameter.[78][79]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15%E2%80%93style_rifle

Go argue with the ATF.

@R. Suave  

NFA of 1934 definition of a machinegun:

"any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person."[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act#:~:text=%22any%20weapon%20which,person.%22%5B10%5D

In this case the lower receivers for the Sporter was a different design as shown above.

 

Huey » 06 Mar 2024, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 11:50 am

@R. Suave  

NFA of 1934 definition of a machinegun:

"any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person."[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act#:~:text=%22any%20weapon%20which,person.%22%5B10%5D

In this case the lower receivers for the Sporter was a different design as shown above.

Entirely irrelevant.

Huey » 06 Mar 2024, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 11:46 am

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Original ATF AR-15 Classification Refutes Claim that Rifle ‘Not Meant’ for Civilians

From the embedded classification letter:

...have changed the weapon in basic design to the extent that it is not a "firearm" in the machine gun category as that term is defined in in Section 5848(2) of the National Firearm Act. 

These are all part of the different design:

To prevent a civilian semi-automatic AR-15 from being readily converted for use with the select fire components, several features were changed. Parts changed include the lower receiver, bolt carrier, hammer, trigger, disconnector, and safety/mode selector. The semi-automatic bolt carrier has a longer lightening slot to prevent the bolt's engagement with an automatic sear. Due to a decrease in mass, the buffer spring is heavier. On the select-fire version, the hammer has an extra spur which interacts with the additional auto-sear that holds it back until the bolt carrier group is fully in battery, when the automatic fire is selected.[73] Using a portion of the select fire parts in a semi-automatic rifle will not enable a select fire option (this requires a registered part with the ATF). Lower receivers that are select-fire are identified by a pinhole above the safety/mode selection switch.[74][75][76][77] As designed by Colt, the pins supporting the semi-auto trigger and hammer in the lower receiver are larger than those used in the military rifle to prevent interchangeability between semi-automatic and select-fire components. The pivot pin may also be slightly larger in diameter.[78][79]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15%E2%80%93style_rifle

Go argue with the ATF.

The ATF has nothing to do with it.

R.Suave » 06 Mar 2024, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 12:06 pm

The ATF has nothing to do with it.

Sure they do.  You also lined the facts concerning the different design.  But, you keep yapping away.  You already lost.

R.Suave » 06 Mar 2024, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 12:05 pm

Entirely irrelevant.

 

Only that it shows the Sporter was not designed for combat.

Take your L and move on.  Or argue with yourself and keep embarrassing yourself.   My work is done. 

 

Huey » 06 Mar 2024, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 12:10 pm

Only that it shows the Sporter was not designed for combat.

Take your L and move on.  Or argue with yourself and keep embarrassing yourself.   My work is done.

No, it doesn't

It proves that the M16 was modified so as not to be a machine gun.

Huey » 06 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

Sure they do.  You also lined the facts concerning the different design.  But, you keep yapping away.  You already lost.

The ATF has nothing to do with the military.

 

Huey-144 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/Lw2L_vGUMtE?si=Lc_m-Y4v2Rc6nN-N

Looks like Rico has once again successfully deflected from the original topic of the thread that he had been thoroughly trounced on...

What's even more ironic is, it was his own thread that he derailed.

Too funny...

R. Suave » 06 Mar 2024, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

06 Mar 2024, 8:37 am

What's the point of me reading a citation you don't understand?

Do you understand hyperbole from your time adapting as displaced uniquely here self evident by your DNA? How does that work in plain sight? Evolving as ancestrally displaced now.
1. specific gravity to a perpetual balancing universe never same additions again working the same way all the time each adapts to their time present in an ever changing form fertilized cell to decomposed corpse.
2. thermodynamic principles describe eternal changes when individually present evolving as one of a kind.
3. all the laws ever invented since dawn of civilization didn't change how evolving never adds the same reproduction twice regardless cloned or not.
4. in all combined cycles coming and going arriving specifically one at a time and departing separately one at a time not in the same order been part of 5 generation gaps forward or not leaving same form as arrived.

Hence the optical illusion of random chance.