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ConsRule » 07 Mar 2024, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:25 am

Not me...AllSides Media Bias.  Media Bias Chart | AllSides

Leans Left

Are you this stupid?

You didn't cite them in your first post.

You expressed your fee-fees..

They weren't informed by a "media guide".


Speaks to the strength of your convictions.

 

Huey » 07 Mar 2024, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:14 am

Oh, that will be a great campaign slogan.  You are not good at math!  You are not paying more at the grocery store!  

You are so disconnected from real people it is sickening.

You are so disconnected from real people it is sickening.

If they aren't included in the data, who are they?

What "connects" you?

 

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:29 am

Are you this stupid?

You didn't cite them in your first post.

You expressed your fee-fees..

They weren't informed by a "media guide".

Speaks to the strength of your convictions.

I just used them to confirm my suspicions.  You aren't the first idiot here to constantly post Op-Eds with no thoughts of your own.  After a while, I tend to remember the liberals sites. Besides, I tend to treat all Op-Ed pieces with a heavy dose of skepticism...regardless of the source. Most claim to "speak" the truth, they just don't tell you who's definition of truth they are using.

 

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 8:21 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 8:21 am

Are Americans really that sour on the economy? Perhaps not. Surveys show that when people are asked about their personal financial situation — and not just their views on the economy — an overwhelming majority say it is either good or excellent.

 If we’ve learned anything during the pandemic era it is that surveys are not very reliable indicators. Case in point: consumer spending, which has consistently risen more than forecast. Better to watch what Americans do rather than what they say.

What Has Biden Accomplished? Look at These 10 Metrics, Not the Polls

 https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024 ... h0IjoxfQ==

b...b...b...b..but Don Suave, that is EXACTLY what you've been telling us.

Consumer "confidence" is being driven by the sheer volume of Gen Z and Millennials living in mom and dad's basement with no bills and spending every penny they make on fashion and partying because they "can't afford" to make it on their own.

 
 

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:06 am

How do we know it's "Liberal", you **** idiot....

Now why don't you run along before your fee-fees get bruised.

LEFT-CENTER BIAS


These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

• Overall, we rate Bloomberg as Left-Center biased due to story selection that slightly favors the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to not covering Michael Bloomberg and his Democratic Presidential rivals during the primaries.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bloomberg/
 
 

Huey » 07 Mar 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:38 am

LEFT-CENTER BIAS

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

• Overall, we rate Bloomberg as Left-Center biased due to story selection that slightly favors the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to not covering Michael Bloomberg and his Democratic Presidential rivals during the primaries.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bloomberg/

Addressed, Buzzy.
 

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:31 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:31 am

If they aren't included in the data, who are they?

What "connects" you?

 

 

No questions, Askholio!

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

Current Avg  3.38

Last month  $3.14

Last Year  $3.41

Facts, not questions, is how you make your debate case.
 

RedheadedStranger » 07 Mar 2024, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:36 am

Consumer "confidence" is being driven by the sheer volume of Gen Z and Millennials living in mom and dad's basement with no bills and spending every penny they make on fashion and partying because they "can't afford" to make it on their own.

IS TOO!


 

Huey » 07 Mar 2024, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:41 am

No questions, Askholio!

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

Current Avg  3.38

Last month  $3.14

Last Year  $3.41

Facts, not questions, is how you make your debate case.

No stand.


No case.


SS, DD.

maineman » 07 Mar 2024, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:18 am

Have you ever paid LESS at the grocery store?

Sure did!  EVERY trip to the grocery store we paid FAR less when Trump was in office.

And we also paid less at the gas pump, for electricity and gas, for interest on car loans, credit cards, and mortgages, on new and used cars, for health insurance, for auto repairs, for pet food, for airline tickets, for rent, and at McDonalds and every other fast food eatery and restaurant.
All this at the same time that wages are down far below what they were under Trump.

That had to be one of the dumbest questions you've ever asked! 

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:43 am

No stand.


No case.


SS, DD.

 

My stand is already posted.  Those are facts to support it.  

Try again:

Current Avg  3.38

Last month  $3.14

Last Year  $3.41

Facts, not questions, is how you make your debate case.

Those are facts.

I am quite sure they can do math when fueling up.  

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

ConsRule » 07 Mar 2024, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:34 am

I just used them to confirm my suspicions.  You aren't the first idiot here to constantly post Op-Eds with no thoughts of your own.  After a while, I tend to remember the liberals sites. Besides, I tend to treat all Op-Ed pieces with a heavy dose of skepticism...regardless of the source. Most claim to "speak" the truth, they just don't tell you who's definition of truth they are using.

Enough of your fee-fees.


I post my sources.

My sources tend to privilege data and analysis over sentiment.

You are too ashamed to name yours.

Never forget that.

Huey » 07 Mar 2024, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:46 am

My stand is already posted.  Those are facts to support it.  

Try again:

Current Avg  3.38

Last month  $3.14

Last Year  $3.41

Facts, not questions, is how you make your debate case.

Those are facts.

I am quite sure they can do math when fueling up.  

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

There is no stand.

You won't tell me about these "real people" for whom you speak. You can't tell me why the facts I've presented are false.

Your ignorance of the aggregate data doesn't make it lies. It tells you, far more accurately, what is going on than Jeanine Pirro.
 

Zeets2 » 07 Mar 2024, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:45 am

Sure did!  EVERY trip to the grocery store we paid FAR less when Trump was in office.

And we also paid less at the gas pump, for electricity and gas, for interest on car loans, credit cards, and mortgages, on new and used cars, for health insurance, for auto repairs, for pet food, for airline tickets, for rent, and at McDonalds and every other fast food eatery and restaurant.
All this at the same time that wages are down far below what they were under Trump.

That had to be one of the dumbest questions you've ever asked!

My question implied have you ever paid less at the grocery store than you did previously?    My point being that grocery prices always go up.

And wages are not far below what they were under Trump.  that is a flat-out lie.  
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:46 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:46 am

Enough of your fee-fees.

I post my sources.

My sources tend to privilege data and analysis over sentiment.

You are too ashamed to name yours.

Never forget that.

Your third grade strikethrough mentality doesn't eliminate what I said...it just shows you to be childish. 

Analysis is very often colored by personal factors. As for data? Never forget; "Figures don't lie, but Liars do figure." As for my source (before you whine), that quote is attributed to Mark Twain, just there is some question about him getting it from someone else.

 

maineman » 07 Mar 2024, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:52 am

My question implied have you ever paid less at the grocery store than you did previously?    My point being that grocery prices always go up.

And wages are not far below what they were under Trump.  that is a flat-out lie.  
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/

I paid less during the Obama administration than I did under Trump.  I paid less under the Clinton administration than I did under Bush.
Get my point?

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:42 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:42 am

IS TOO!

I can't help it if you have no idea what's actually happening in this Country today.

20 somethings spending every penny they make while living at home is not "consumer confidence".

Just the facts ma'am.


 

R.Suave » 07 Mar 2024, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:51 am

There is no stand.

You won't tell me about these "real people" for whom you speak. You can't tell me why the facts I've presented are false.

Your ignorance of the aggregate data doesn't make it lies. It tells you, far more accurately, what is going on than Jeanine Pirro.

NOt necessarily false but not painting the real picture of what Americans experiencing.  Like the article I cited about how 2/3 of Americans say the wage increases ARE NOT keeping up with prices.  

But hey, your portfolio is probably doing well.  About the only avg person who benefits from that are retirees.  

maineman » 07 Mar 2024, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:54 am

I paid less during the Obama administration than I did under Trump.  I paid less under the Clinton administration than I did under Bush.
Get my point?

 

Pay increases are not keeping up with prices.  Get my point?  

maineman » 07 Mar 2024, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

07 Mar 2024, 9:52 am

My question implied have you ever paid less at the grocery store than you did previously?    My point being that grocery prices always go up.

And wages are not far below what they were under Trump.  that is a flat-out lie.  
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/

****!
Here's the proof: 
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org ... n-tracker/

Wages are DOWN 4.1% since Trump left office, which translates to a drop from $1,045 to $1,002.

Get it?  There IS no "wage growth" since your idiot took office!
You morons can only claim that it's gone up FROM BIDEN'S LOWEST POINTS!

Real Wages Have Declined Under Joe Biden’s Presidency
MSN by Matt Bruenig

Though inflation-adjusted wage growth resumed earlier this year, real wages are still down overall since Joe Biden took office.