Liberal Forum

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:28 am

Here

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.tn.htm

Hey Suave...

You claim that it doesn't make fiscal sense to have a border?

Wanna explain?
 

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:28 am

Here

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.tn.htm

 

Still no argument.   Got it!  You have never been able to build an argument refuting what people post.  It appears what you called a **** blog is correct.  

Huey » 11 Mar 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:35 am

Still no argument.   Got it!  You have never been able to build an argument refuting what people post.  It appears what you called a **** blog is correct.

It tries to use Houehold Survey data to qualify Establishment Survey data.

That's stupid.

It's why you only find this **** at FOX and "LibertyNation".


Got it?

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:46 am

It tries to use Houehold Survey data to qualify Establishment Survey data.

That's stupid.

It's why you only find this **** at FOX and "LibertyNation".

Got it?

Everything Zeets listed is correct.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Huey » 11 Mar 2024, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:47 am

Everything Zeets listed is correct.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

It may be true to its sources, but it is inappropriate to qualify the Establishment Survey with the Household survey.

 

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:22 am

Zeet,

You lifted this from some **** blog you read.

Name it.

Yeah, it's that "**** blog" known as the Bureau of Labor Statistics from the US Dept. of Labor

http://chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnib ... realer.pdf

REAL EARNINGS – JANUARY 2024 
Real average weekly earnings 12/23 $381.73   1/24 $380.44
Average weekly hours  12/23 34.3 hours  1/24 34.1 hours
Real average weekly earnings 12/23 -0.1  1/24 -0.3

Maybe if you stopped following only the numbers massaged and selectively chosen by CNN and MSNBC, you'd have known them!
One has to just LOVE shoving the facts up your dumb liberal eggplant ***!        

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:03 am

It may be true to its sources, but it is inappropriate to qualify the Establishment Survey with the Household survey.

1. Why are there two monthly measures of employment? The household survey and establishment survey both produce sample-based estimates of employment, and both have strengths and limitations. The establishment survey employment series has a smaller margin of error on the measurement of month-to-month change than the household survey because of its much larger sample size. An over-the-month employment change of about 130,000 is statistically significant in the establishment survey, while the threshold for a statistically significant change in the household survey is about 600,000. However, the household survey has a more expansive scope than the establishment survey because it includes self-employed workers whose businesses are unincorporated, unpaid family workers, agricultural workers, and private household workers, who are excluded by the establishment survey. The household survey also provides estimates of employment for demographic groups. For more information on the differences between the two surveys, please visit www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ces_cps_trends.htm

Huey » 11 Mar 2024, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:11 am

1. Why are there two monthly measures of employment? The household survey and establishment survey both produce sample-based estimates of employment, and both have strengths and limitations. The establishment survey employment series has a smaller margin of error on the measurement of month-to-month change than the household survey because of its much larger sample size. An over-the-month employment change of about 130,000 is statistically significant in the establishment survey, while the threshold for a statistically significant change in the household survey is about 600,000. However, the household survey has a more expansive scope than the establishment survey because it includes self-employed workers whose businesses are unincorporated, unpaid family workers, agricultural workers, and private household workers, who are excluded by the establishment survey. The household survey also provides estimates of employment for demographic groups. For more information on the differences between the two surveys, please visit www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ces_cps_trends.htm

Do you understand why they don't correspond?

Why the Household Survey is so volatile?
 

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:17 am

Do you understand why they don't correspond?

Why the Household Survey is so volatile?
 

 

DO you understand that the information posted is not wrong?  

Bye

Huey » 11 Mar 2024, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:26 am

DO you understand that the information posted is not wrong?  

Bye

What I don't understand is why you persist after being told that you cannot be made to understand...

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:17 am

Do you understand why they don't correspond?

Why the Household Survey is so volatile?
 

 

However, the household survey has a more expansive scope than the establishment survey because it includes self-employed workers whose businesses are unincorporated, unpaid family workers, agricultural workers, and private household workers, who are excluded by the establishment survey. The household survey also provides estimates of employment for demographic groups. For more information on the differences between the two surveys,

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:28 am

What I don't understand is why you persist after being told that you cannot be made to understand...

So you're still claiming that the US Bureau of Labor Statistics are NOT the most reliable state of the economy we have?
Still believe it's just a "**** blog"?
 

Zeets2 » 11 Mar 2024, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:33 am

So you're still claiming that the US Bureau of Labor Statistics are NOT the most reliable state of the economy we have?
Still believe it's just a "**** blog"?

I think if you don't understand the limitations of the Household survey, you should never speak.

Huey » 11 Mar 2024, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:32 am

However, the household survey has a more expansive scope than the establishment survey because it includes self-employed workers whose businesses are unincorporated, unpaid family workers, agricultural workers, and private household workers, who are excluded by the establishment survey. The household survey also provides estimates of employment for demographic groups. For more information on the differences between the two surveys,

That's not the statistical reason why, though it surely contributes.

Let me know when you give up guessing.

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:37 am

That's not the statistical reason why, though it surely contributes.

Let me know when you give up guessing.

 

I'm good.  You have not reuted the info that was posted.

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:35 am

I think if you don't understand the limitations of the Household survey, you should never speak.

Survey?


 

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 10:46 am

It tries to use Houehold Survey data to qualify Establishment Survey data.

That's stupid.

It's why you only find this **** at FOX and "LibertyNation".

Got it?

I would like to see you make your "Illegal Aliens are good for our economy" presentation down at  your local Iron Workers Union Hall.
https://iwlocal7.org/
Here's the contact information. 
I am sure they would love to hear from you..!!

Union Hall195 Old Colony Avenue
Boston, MA 02127
(617) 268-4777Fax: (617) 268-7878
1-800-730-IRON (4766)Monday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Tuesday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Wednesday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Thursday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Friday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM


 
 
 

BooRadley » 11 Mar 2024, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:46 am

Survey?

It's what they call it, Hole.

GHETTOBLASTER » 11 Mar 2024, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 11:53 am

I would like to see you make your "Illegal Aliens are good for our economy" presentation down at  your local Iron Workers Union Hall.
https://iwlocal7.org/
Here's the contact information. 
I am sure they would love to hear from you..!!

Union Hall195 Old Colony Avenue
Boston, MA 02127
(617) 268-4777Fax: (617) 268-7878
1-800-730-IRON (4766)Monday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Tuesday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Wednesday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Thursday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM
Friday: 6:30 AM – 4:30 PM

That's too far for him to drive.  

R.Suave » 11 Mar 2024, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Mar 2024, 12:32 pm

It's what they call it, Hole.

Can you maybe show us a list of all these lies you claim I've made?

Having trouble are we?

​​​​​​