ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑ That is not what you have been saying. You have been saying he raped her...the jury found he did not.
You have a habit of changing your tune when proven to be a liar. Congrats...you are a star member of the demonrat party.
You think he raped her?maineman » 13 Mar 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ I think that he raped her. Where I come from, which is not New York, when a man forcibly crams his fingers up a woman's vagina against her will, that's rape. Even the judge admits as much.
ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑ The judge is on the record stating the incident was not rape as defined by the laws of the State of NY (then and now). The jury found him liable on the grounds of sexual assault. I have posted quotes and the link to the article of the judge going on the record.
Those are facts...even if you don't like them or want to accept them.
just more wishful nonsense.the laws of the State of NY (then and now
You think no Democrat NAZIS live in "red states"?? Hell, they run the big cities in MOST "red States", so your "logic" is total ****. Just like what your entire skull is filled with.Bidencrimefamily » 13 Mar 2024, 6:13 pm » wrote: ↑ Using the same logic it happened in a red state so all republucans are pedo.
I have no idea why you have me on ignore.maineman » 13 Mar 2024, 7:54 pm » wrote: ↑ BooRadley, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post.
When will this stupid **** stop clogging up my notifications folder with posts that I will not reply to?
Doxxing bitch should burn in hell, IMHO.
You have to remember that when @maineman gets her little *** STOMPED like she does, "ignore" is her only option to keep the bleeding to a minimum!!BooRadley » 14 Mar 2024, 6:24 am » wrote: ↑ I have no idea why you have me on ignore.
I've been stalking you for years?
I have no idea who you are.
I suggest you consider professional help
Which didn't happen...therefore NOT RAPE under NY law. The judge said that on the record. Him adding his personal opinion as to how the law should read is nothing more than an Op-Ed...and has absolutely no standing in law.R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 9:01 pm » wrote: ↑
just more wishful nonsense.
Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll...
"The jury … was instructed that it could find that Mr Trump ‘raped’ Ms Carroll only if it found that he forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s vagina with his penis.
“It could not find that he ‘raped’ her if it determined that Mr Trump forcibly penetrated Ms Carroll’s private sexual parts with his fingers – which commonly is considered ‘rape’ in other contexts – because the New York penal law definition of rape is limited to penile penetration.”
Kaplan had already outlined why it was not defamation for Carroll to say Trump raped her.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... an-carroll
Tara Reade said Joe Biden did the same thing to her and had just as much evidence as proof as E.Jean Carroll did, but that case never went anywhere at all.maineman » 13 Mar 2024, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑ I think that he raped her. Where I come from, which is not New York, when a man forcibly crams his fingers up a woman's vagina against her will, that's rape. Even the judge admits as much.
No....you've quoted, selectively, to have this "liberal" judge "supporting" your hissy.ConsRule » 14 Mar 2024, 7:05 am » wrote: ↑ Which didn't happen...therefore NOT RAPE under NY law. The judge said that on the record. Him adding his personal opinion as to how the law should read is nothing more than an Op-Ed...and has absolutely no standing in law.
SUCKS FOR YOU!!!
Love how quickly the bar drops....RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2024, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑ Tara Reade said Joe Biden did the same thing to her and had just as much evidence as proof as E.Jean Carroll did, but that case never went anywhere at all.
Funny how that is huh?
I guess some women are to be believed, while other aren't. It all depends on who they are accusing I suppose.
What "proof" did Carroll offer to back up her claim other than just saying it happened?
One last time:R.Suave » 14 Mar 2024, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑ No....you've quoted, selectively, to have this "liberal" judge "supporting" your hissy.
The parsing is done.
.it clearly sucks to be Grifty....and you.
Here is your "low bar" Rico...
She's no Tara.RedheadedStranger » 14 Mar 2024, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑ Here is your "low bar" Rico...
https://youtu.be/zoXZ8Uln-lg?si=aCAdhKjA91IsaXaq
Carroll is certifiably nuts.
She seems like your type for sure.
Predictable and redundant post as expected...Sumela » 14 Mar 2024, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑ Murica and the
TRUMPYIST Obsession. Clearly, Murica is incredibly unhealthy. Diagnoses: Severe Butthurt
I don't get why you presume to explain.ConsRule » 14 Mar 2024, 8:15 am » wrote: ↑ One last time:
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll - The Washington Post
Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.
--- Later in the article ----
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ”
Kaplan wrote.He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.
” Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”
The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”
The statements in red are statements of fact and in agreement with NY Law, both at the time of the incident and today. The statements in blue are his opinions, that are NOT in agreement with NY Law, both at the time of the incident and today.
It does not matter if you like the jury verdict or NY law...they are what they are, period, full stop.