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Using maineBITCH logic, we have this.....
Using maineBITCH logic, we have this.....
By Beekeeper
13 Mar 2024 7:02 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
13 Mar 2024 3:06 pm
Suave too stupid or lazy..?ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Maybe you are too stupid to understand the US Constitution...or just too lazy to use an internet search engine.
Article I | U.S. Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)
Article I, Section 9, Clause 3;
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
If it wasn't a crime at the time it happened, it doesn't matter what laws are passed or changed...it will NEVER be a crime.
Further explained;Article I, Section 9, Clause 3:
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
Separate provisions of the Constitution ban enactment of ex post facto laws by the Federal Government and the states, respectively.1 The Supreme Court has cited cases interpreting the federal Ex Post Facto Clause in challenges under the state clause, and vice versa, implying that the two clauses have the same scope.2 The Court has construed both clauses to ban legislatures from enacting laws that impose criminal liability or increase criminal punishment retroactively.3 The constitutional prohibitions of ex post facto laws are closely related to the prohibitions of bills of attainder—legislative actions that determine guilt or impose criminal punishment on specific persons or groups without a judicial trial.4 In some cases, the Court has held that a single legislative action may violate both the ex post facto and bill of attainder prohibitions.5
Overview of Ex Post Facto Laws | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
So Trump will NEVER be a "rapist" as it relates to the incident in question. Again, from the judge who presided over the court case;
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law..."
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll - The Washington Post
Just admit you're a whiny as liberal who cannot accept legal facts and move on.
No
You had it right the first time
13 Mar 2024 3:36 pm
ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑ In every state in the union...and under federal law...there are five elements to those forms of defamation;
- A false communication (there is no finding of rape by any court in the land and NY Law specifically...you know it to be false)
- Unprivileged statement (not an opinion, you are clearly not adding "in my opinion")
- Made about a person
- Published to a third party
- Caused damages (damages do not need to be monetary)
The judge presiding over the case is on record stating it wasn't rape as defined by the law. Will Trump sue your scrawny liberal ***...probably not, but he could.
If someone were to write an article that stated that Donald Trump had been convicted of the crime of rape in New York State, MAYBE there would be SOME grounds for a charge of Libel, but to simply write that, "Donald Trump's finger-**** Carroll in the dressing room - for which he was found guilty - was tantamount to rape" Not a thing illegal about that statement. It actually WOULD be considered rape in many states other than New York.
13 Mar 2024 3:44 pm
That is not what you have been saying. You have been saying he raped her...the jury found he did not.maineman » 13 Mar 2024, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑ If someone were to write an article that stated that Donald Trump had been convicted of the crime of rape in New York State, MAYBE there would be SOME grounds for a charge of Libel, but to simply write that, "Donald Trump's finger-**** Carroll in the dressing room - for which he was found guilty - was tantamount to rape" Not a thing illegal about that statement. It actually WOULD be considered rape in many states other than New York.
You have a habit of changing your tune when proven to be a liar. Congrats...you are a star member of the demonrat party.
13 Mar 2024 4:35 pm
ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Maybe you are too stupid to understand the US Constitution...
So Trump will NEVER be a "rapist" as it relates to the incident in question.
Again, from the judge who presided over the court case;
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law..."
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll - The Washington Post
Oh...by the way...from YOUR LINK:
"The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis. "
Just admit you're a whiny as liberal who cannot accept legal facts and move on.
you're too stupid to understand that this relates to prosecution, not taxonomy.Maybe you are too stupid to understand the US Constitution...
Was, is, and forever will be..So Trump will NEVER be a "rapist" as it relates to the incident in question.
why the ellipsis?Again, from the judge who presided over the court case;
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law..."
**** imbecile.
Post the headline.
Not any more."The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis. "
You're the one in denial, whining.Just admit you're a whiny as liberal who cannot accept legal facts and move on.
13 Mar 2024 4:47 pm
Amazing....maineman » 13 Mar 2024, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑ If someone were to write an article that stated that Donald Trump had been convicted of the crime of rape in New York State, MAYBE there would be SOME grounds for a charge of Libel, but to simply write that, "Donald Trump's finger-**** Carroll in the dressing room - for which he was found guilty - was tantamount to rape" Not a thing illegal about that statement. It actually WOULD be considered rape in many states other than New York.
This same woman waited 26 years and her cat is named "vagina"
13 Mar 2024 4:49 pm
You are literally too stupid to exist. Your own link stated;R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 4:35 pm » wrote: ↑ you're too stupid to understand that this relates to prosecution, not taxonomy.
Was, is, and forever will be..
why the ellipsis?
**** imbecile.
Post the headline.
Not any more.
You're the one in denial, whining.
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York will expand its legal definition of rape to include various forms of nonconsensual sexual contact, under a bill signed into law by Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday.
The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis. The new law broadens the definition to include nonconsensual anal, oral, and vaginal sexual contact. Highlighting Carroll’s case at a bill signing ceremony in Albany, the Democratic governor said the new definition will make it easier for rape victims to bring cases forward to prosecute perpetrators. The law will apply to sexual assaults committed on or after Sept. 1.
https://apnews.com/article/new-york-rap ... 16a787b45a
Tell us, oh King of the Eternally Stupid, when did the incident in the E. Jean Carroll case occur?
The new law, as it applies to the facts of the Trump case, is an ex post facto law. When the incident occurred, what happen WAS NOT RAPE according the laws of the State of New York at that time. Trump can NEVER be criminally convicted of rape for that incident because the law that goes into effect in 5 MONTHS, is not the law he would have to be tried under. That pesky US Constitution is getting in the way again.
SUCKS FOR YOU!!!
13 Mar 2024 4:54 pm
Your whole post is a perfect example of how **** up you and your kind are .....what kind of gobbledygook nonsense is that?R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑ “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.
He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
13 Mar 2024 5:02 pm
Catch that?RebelGator » 13 Mar 2024, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Your whole post is a perfect example of how **** up you and your kind are .....what kind of gobbledygook nonsense is that?
From the gang that can't define a woman
13 Mar 2024 5:10 pm
What exactly happens on those Navy Ships anyways.......swabbing the poop deck, not withstanding?maineman » 13 Mar 2024, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑ Just not by the legal definition of rape in New York.
Let me ask you a question: If YOU were in the men's changing room at a department store and a man forced his way into your changing booth, pulled your pants down and rammed a broomstick up your ***, would you think to yourself that you had been raped? Yes or no?
How many brooms does it take to graduate to Lieutenant Commander, Hornblower?
13 Mar 2024 5:22 pm
It's English, cretin.RebelGator » 13 Mar 2024, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑ Your whole post is a perfect example of how **** up you and your kind are .....what kind of gobbledygook nonsense is that?
13 Mar 2024 5:24 pm
Of course it's rape, idiot.ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 4:49 pm » wrote: ↑ You are literally too stupid to exist. Your own link stated;
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York will expand its legal definition of rape to include various forms of nonconsensual sexual contact, under a bill signed into law by Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday.
The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis. The new law broadens the definition to include nonconsensual anal, oral, and vaginal sexual contact. Highlighting Carroll’s case at a bill signing ceremony in Albany, the Democratic governor said the new definition will make it easier for rape victims to bring cases forward to prosecute perpetrators. The law will apply to sexual assaults committed on or after Sept. 1.
https://apnews.com/article/new-york-rap ... 16a787b45a
Tell us, oh King of the Eternally Stupid, when did the incident in the E. Jean Carroll case occur?
The new law, as it applies to the facts of the Trump case, is an ex post facto law. When the incident occurred, what happen WAS NOT RAPE according the laws of the State of New York at that time. Trump can NEVER be criminally convicted of rape for that incident because the law that goes into effect in 5 MONTHS, is not the law he would have to be tried under. That pesky US Constitution is getting in the way again.
SUCKS FOR YOU!!!
It is what the court is telling you.
And now it's official.
13 Mar 2024 5:28 pm
If you are too stupid and immature to accept the ruling of the jury, then further discussion is meaningless.R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑ Of course it's rape, idiot.
It is what the court is telling you.
And now it's official.
But feel free to continue your whiny *** liberal blubbering from your fantasy world.
13 Mar 2024 5:28 pm
Not convicted of rape.R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑ Of course it's rape, idiot.
It is what the court is telling you.
And now it's official.
13 Mar 2024 6:11 pm
ConsRule » 13 Mar 2024, 5:28 pm » wrote: ↑ If you are too stupid and immature to accept the ruling of the jury, then further discussion is meaningless.
But feel free to continue your whiny *** liberal blubbering from your fantasy world.
the jury found him liable, awarded his victim 5 million.
When Team Grifty tried to spin it, the judge took the time to dispel all doubt.
13 Mar 2024 6:12 pm
Odd huh...R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑ the jury found him liable, awarded his victim 5 million.
When Team Grifty tried to spin it, the judge took the time to dispel all doubt.
Woman waits almost 30 years
13 Mar 2024 6:13 pm
Using the same logic it happened in a red state so all republucans are pedo.Beekeeper » 13 Mar 2024, 7:02 am » wrote: ↑ NOW we can safely say that THE TEACHERS UNIONS are PRO bye_DUMB and are ALL CHILD RAPISTS and need to be REMOVED FROM SOCIETY!!
Isn't that how it works @maineman , MY LITTLE BITCHBOI???
A former Tennessee teacher arrested in September 2023 for allegedly sexually assaulting a 12-year-old boy is now facing a 23-count indictment for sexual misconduct against nearly two dozen other potential minor victims, according to police.
Alissa McCommon, a 38-year-old former elementary school teacher, was initially arrested Sept. 8 and charged with rape of a child.
"Our goal in any of these investigations is to identify any potential victims and provide medical assistance, counseling and support for their families throughout the investigation," Covington Police Chief Donna Turner said in a March 8 statement. "Without this vital intervention, the ripple effect of trauma can last for years with the victims and the family unit."
On March 5, a Tipton County grand jury handed down a 23-count indictment against McCommon "with multiple sexual misconduct offenses against minors," the Covington Police Department said in a March 8 press release.
The Covington Police Department Criminal Investigations Division, Tipton County Sheriff’s Office and the District Attorney’s Office worked together to identify 21 "potential victims" during their criminal investigation, the press release stated.
13 Mar 2024 6:16 pm
not necessary...
OJ wasn't convicted of murder.
13 Mar 2024 6:17 pm
And won millions by a jury.
81 million.
13 Mar 2024 6:28 pm
How many hours?
13 Mar 2024 7:38 pm
The judge is on the record stating the incident was not rape as defined by the laws of the State of NY (then and now). The jury found him liable on the grounds of sexual assault. I have posted quotes and the link to the article of the judge going on the record.R.Suave » 13 Mar 2024, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑ the jury found him liable, awarded his victim 5 million.
When Team Grifty tried to spin it, the judge took the time to dispel all doubt.
Those are facts...even if you don't like them or want to accept them.
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