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There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

no mention of mind social consensus or else? Working for what goal? Understanding self evident life or pretending self evident evolving is a myth.

Anyone other than someone who's upper front teeth show when they talk should be in charge or allowed to vote...but who is that?

nefarious101 » 13 Mar 2024, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:18 pm

Anyone other than someone who's upper front teeth show when they talk should be in charge or allowed to vote...but who is that?

That doesn't make a lot of sense. Who are you referring to?

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:22 pm

That doesn't make a lot of sense. Who are you referring to?

it's an observation thing...watch people talk and see....it's as obvious as the nose on your face

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

Those with common sense should be in charge.  

Huey » 13 Mar 2024, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:25 pm

Those with common sense should be in charge.  

those understanding common since conceived should be in charge. Ancestors have common senses working simultaneously, Intellectual common sense is everyone operates on a one track mentality.

Huey » 13 Mar 2024, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:25 pm

Those with common sense should be in charge.

Well that knocks out most politicians. 
 

Bidencrimefamily » 13 Mar 2024, 1:30 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:30 pm

Well that knocks out most politicians. 
 

and their voters.

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

the only relevant quality for a good leader is loyalty. 

FOS » 13 Mar 2024, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:44 pm

the only relevant quality for a good leader is loyalty. 

One would think honesty about how life evolves in plain sight equally timing every reproduction adapting in space now..

nefarious101 » 13 Mar 2024, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 1:25 pm

it's an observation thing...watch people talk and see....it's as obvious as the nose on your face

I just checked the mirror. I think that means I can't vote :wah:  

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

Acceptance to colleges and universities should go to those who have the best grades and test scores.

Jobs should go to those who are deemed the most qualified by those who are hiring.  They should be hired for a probationary period - 90 days, and examined within that time to determine whether they were a good hire.

People who wake up at 5:00 am to go to the gym have no bearing on my hiring them, unless they work at my gym and their shift starts at 5:00 am.

What is "fair and best for society" is irrelevant in a person's decision to hire someone for a job.  And, it should be irrelevant to admission to college.

Having said that, there should be a certain level of higher education available to those who have high c low b averages, slightly above average test scores, and show a propensity to take their studies seriously and work hard. This is actually the entire purpose of state university systems - to educate young adults within those states so that businesses would have a qualified pool of workers, and provide opportunities to those who live and reside in the state.  The Liberals F-ed that up all to hell, didn't they!
 

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

The way the system is supposed to work is those who prove to be the most productive and  efficient eventually get put into "junior management" to learn those ropes.
At this stage, some might prove they have what it takes to be leaders and some wont.
It's not rocket science.
We certainly don't want to have  "Affirmative Action" or "Identity Politics" to spoil this perfectly good system....but we do.
 

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 12:09 pm

There is an age old question in American society. Should the leadership be the smartest or the hardest working? Should colleges test for intelligence in other words and offer jobs and degrees based on that assumption? Or should the fact that some people wake up at 5 am to go to the gym be given their rightful place since they work harder? There are several facets to that but President Obama once said "intelligence is hard work". What's fair and best for society?

Well conservatives have neither. 

Bidencrimefamily » 13 Mar 2024, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 2:48 pm

Well conservatives have neither.

I don't know, most of the brawn votes conservative. 

Bidencrimefamily » 13 Mar 2024, 2:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 2:48 pm

Well conservatives have neither. 

did you ever learn parallels vs perpendicular vs adjacent vs in series of events simultaneously taking place? Loyalty to an ideology is conservative to that ideology.

liberals change the meaning of everything people conserve ancestrally forward now to keep everyone chasing tomorrow each rotation of the planet life only evolves forward by the numbers ancestrally here now.

and in that, population is generally specifically divided by last 5 generation gaps added since inception.

Well Trump got poor grades in school.

And he chickened out when it came to severing his country.

So Trump has neither brains or brawn.

He is just a scam artist that has fooled the uneducated and useful idiots in our country.

Monderegal » 13 Mar 2024, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Mar 2024, 2:10 pm

I just checked the mirror. I think that means I can't vote 

ding ding ding....we have a winner.  women show their upper teeth when they talk...men don't.  Another reason why a man can't be a woman and a women can't be a man.

next time you run into a trans man compliment his teeth