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maineman » 01 Apr 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 9:38 am

The lie part of the "dictator" comment came when he said there'd be a finite one-day time limit to his dictatorship.

Say...what did you think of Trump's heartfelt, moving Easter message?  Jesus would have been SO proud, doncha think?

It is completely irrelevant when Trump made the dictator comment.  YOU said he is lying when his lips are moving.  Therefore, you know/understand that comment was a lie.  If you don't think it was a lie, you are...by definition...admitting you are a hypocrite.

As for his Easter message...I don't like the message, but it is his constitutionally protected right to say whatever he wants.  As for Jesus being proud...I'll leave his relationship with Jesus, and Jesus' feelings about Trump up to Jesus.

 

jerrab » 01 Apr 2024, 9:41 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 9:41 am

still is valid, trump screwed people and time does not erase that------------------

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/ ... 20anything.

An Atlantic City firm that supplied paving stones lost $1.2 million. An Ohio company that made the Taj Mahal’s onion domes was shortchanged $2 million. A firm that brought in the Carrara marble from Italy went bankrupt.Steven Perskie, a former Democratic assemblyman and state senator from Margate, had an appallingly close-up view of Trump’s battles with contractors. In 1990, then-Gov. James Florio appointed Perskie to run the New Jersey Casino Control Commission.Perskie, who later became a state Superior Court judge, said “a number of local contractors and suppliers” simply gave up and went out of business. And when Trump gave up the last of his Atlantic City casino holdings in 2009, it ended any chance that contractors would get paid.

Reprinting stories from disgruntled workers or businesses that delivered shoddy work proves nothing when you're unable to find and include the other side of the equation.
That's what ignorant libs like you consider "fairness", isn't it?
 

ConsRule » 01 Apr 2024, 9:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 9:42 am

It is completely irrelevant when Trump made the dictator comment.  YOU said he is lying when his lips are moving.  Therefore, you know/understand that comment was a lie.  If you don't think it was a lie, you are...by definition...admitting you are a hypocrite.

As for his Easter message...I don't like the message, but it is his constitutionally protected right to say whatever he wants.  As for Jesus being proud...I'll leave his relationship with Jesus, and Jesus' feelings about Trump up to Jesus.

"You know he is lying when his lips are moving"  is a well known idiomatic expression.  Is English your second language, perhaps?  I have heard that the ESL classes that most schools teach for their GED qualification are light on idioms.  That might explain it. (just kidding)

No one is saying that his Easter message is not constitutionally protected.  But is it PRESIDENTIAL?  Is it MATURE?  Is Trump's Easter message the sort of thing you believe is appropriate for the person asking to be elected to, undoubtedly, the single most important and powerful position of leadership on the planet?  Does his message give you the feeling that he will have the calm, circumspect, wise, selfless gravitas needed to steer the ship of state through choppy seas? 

Look.  I get it.  Both of these candidates are too old.  Both of them are past their prime.  2028 will UNDOUBTEDLY be a generational election where the boomers pass the baton to the Gen-Xers and millennials.  Both parties will undoubtedly have vigorous primaries filled with bright young leaders with a wide array of visions for America's path forward.  We will have two interesting choices and watching the primaries and the debates will help re-ignite patriotism and civic pride.  Re-read those two Easter messages.  Which of those two guys do you really, honestly, believe has the better chance of landing this ship of state back at the dock in one piece so that the new captain can sail away on it?

**** JOE BIDEN THE POS

Zeets2 » 01 Apr 2024, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:01 am

Reprinting stories from disgruntled workers or businesses that delivered shoddy work proves nothing when you're unable to find and include the other side of the equation.
That's what ignorant libs like you consider "fairness", isn't it?

first you said it happened years ago so it does not matter      only a true trump supporter would say that. and then you claim they were shoddy workers with no proof,      

-----------------------------Rosenberg’s firm, Atlantic Plate and Glass, installed most of the glass and mirrors in the Taj Mahal. But when the casino opened, Trump still owed Rosenberg more than $1.5 million.What Rosenberg, now 76 and retired, quickly noticed was that Trump had no intention of forking over the money. And with Trump saying he would pay only 33 cents on each dollar he owed, Rosenberg organized the unpaid contractors. The group then pressured Trump to pay up. But in the end, most came up short.Rosenberg had to take out bank loans to pay his bills. He says he also spent hours on the phone begging his suppliers to give him more time.

maineman » 01 Apr 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:18 am

"You know he is lying when his lips are moving"  is a well known idiomatic expression.  Is English your second language, perhaps?  I have heard that the ESL classes that most schools teach for their GED qualification are light on idioms.  That might explain it. (just kidding)

No one is saying that his Easter message is not constitutionally protected.  But is it PRESIDENTIAL?  Is it MATURE?  Is Trump's Easter message the sort of thing you believe is appropriate for the person asking to be elected to, undoubtedly, the single most important and powerful position of leadership on the planet?  Does his message give you the feeling that he will have the calm, circumspect, wise, selfless gravitas needed to steer the ship of state through choppy seas? 

Look.  I get it.  Both of these candidates are too old.  Both of them are past their prime.  2028 will UNDOUBTEDLY be a generational election where the boomers pass the baton to the Gen-Xers and millennials.  Both parties will undoubtedly have vigorous primaries filled with bright young leaders with a wide array of visions for America's path forward.  We will have two interesting choices and watching the primaries and the debates will help re-ignite patriotism and civic pride.  Re-read those two Easter messages.  Which of those two guys do you really, honestly, believe has the better chance of landing this ship of state back at the dock in one piece so that the new captain can sail away on it?

Vocabulary used between persons evolving at the same time ancestrally arriving in an ever changing population left alive now, is every body's second language to navigating uniquely here.

If you think I am making this up, then why so many different languages used per geographical locations this species evolved from 5 basic ancestral lineages with characteristics relative to climate zone between one equator and two polar regions where opposite solstices and equinoxes occur same rotation of the planet ancestries never stay same reproductions ever added again so far?

5 generation gaps accounting for anyone alive evolved into 1 of 16 great great grandparents added 8 great grandparents, that delivered 4 grandparents giving birth to 2 parenting last generation gap arriving one at a time now.

Algorithms of natural timing results without speculating how else it ever could have been done while doing it forward here as usual energy cannot be created or destroyed by the forms of life ancestrally occupying time to specificity of numbers now.

Don't recite what people choose to believe rationing what a person navigates while proportionately alive now as reproductively here uniquely one of a kind.

maineman » 01 Apr 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:18 am

"You know he is lying when his lips are moving"  is a well known idiomatic expression.  Is English your second language, perhaps?  I have heard that the ESL classes that most schools teach for their GED qualification are light on idioms.  That might explain it. (just kidding)

No one is saying that his Easter message is not constitutionally protected.  But is it PRESIDENTIAL?  Is it MATURE?  Is Trump's Easter message the sort of thing you believe is appropriate for the person asking to be elected to, undoubtedly, the single most important and powerful position of leadership on the planet?  Does his message give you the feeling that he will have the calm, circumspect, wise, selfless gravitas needed to steer the ship of state through choppy seas? 

Look.  I get it.  Both of these candidates are too old.  Both of them are past their prime.  2028 will UNDOUBTEDLY be a generational election where the boomers pass the baton to the Gen-Xers and millennials.  Both parties will undoubtedly have vigorous primaries filled with bright young leaders with a wide array of visions for America's path forward.  We will have two interesting choices and watching the primaries and the debates will help re-ignite patriotism and civic pride.  Re-read those two Easter messages.  Which of those two guys do you really, honestly, believe has the better chance of landing this ship of state back at the dock in one piece so that the new captain can sail away on it?

So you lied...got it.

Everyone says things that aren't mature and every President (and presidential candidate) say things that aren't presidential.  Honestly, I don't let myself get worked up about them. I may voice my opinion about some of them but, rest assured, there are many, many more that I simply ignore.

If you choose to let it bother you, that is your choice.  I have much more important things to think about. By the way, if you think President Biden wrote one word of his Easter message, you're a bigger idiot than anyone could have possibly imagined.

 

jerrab » 01 Apr 2024, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:24 am

first you said it happened years ago so it does not matter      only a true trump supporter would say that. and then you claim they were shoddy workers with no proof,      

-----------------------------Rosenberg’s firm, Atlantic Plate and Glass, installed most of the glass and mirrors in the Taj Mahal. But when the casino opened, Trump still owed Rosenberg more than $1.5 million.What Rosenberg, now 76 and retired, quickly noticed was that Trump had no intention of forking over the money. And with Trump saying he would pay only 33 cents on each dollar he owed, Rosenberg organized the unpaid contractors. The group then pressured Trump to pay up. But in the end, most came up short.Rosenberg had to take out bank loans to pay his bills. He says he also spent hours on the phone begging his suppliers to give him more time.

I never said it didn't matter, what I said it was an unproven claim then and it remains unproven now.
And the fact that you print an excerpt claiming that a company only "installed MOST" of the glass and mirrors could be very telling as to why they weren't paid in full.  Can you provide their contract showing they completed ALL and not "most" of the work they were hired to do?
Until you do, or can submit the other side of the story in the form of an explanation by Trump, you've got nothing but the word of disgruntled workers after they've been fired for doing shoddy work!

So stop your blubbering!
 

Zeets2 » 01 Apr 2024, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:58 am

I never said it didn't matter, what I said it was an unproven claim then and it remains unproven now.
And the fact that you print an excerpt claiming that a company only "installed MOST" of the glass and mirrors could be very telling as to why they weren't paid in full.  Can you provide their contract showing they completed ALL and not "most" of the work they were hired to do?
Until you do, or can submit the other side of the story in the form of an explanation by Trump, you've got nothing but the word of disgruntled workers after they've been fired for doing shoddy work!

So stop your blubbering!

nope.you said it happened 30 years ago so it does not matter. trump never claimed the work was not good... he simply just did not pay them. 
 

Zeets2 » 01 Apr 2024, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:58 am

I never said it didn't matter, what I said it was an unproven claim then and it remains unproven now.
And the fact that you print an excerpt claiming that a company only "installed MOST" of the glass and mirrors could be very telling as to why they weren't paid in full.  Can you provide their contract showing they completed ALL and not "most" of the work they were hired to do?
Until you do, or can submit the other side of the story in the form of an explanation by Trump, you've got nothing but the word of disgruntled workers after they've been fired for doing shoddy work!

So stop your blubbering!
 

How does one disprove self evident results? I.R.D. Intellectual Reasonable Doubt socially indoctrinated throughout history of humanity defying life in real time evolving so far.

Why do alternate realities happen in real evolving situations? Rhetorical question as current events are the answer.

jerrab » 01 Apr 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 11:04 am

nope.you said it happened 30 years ago so it does not matter. trump never claimed the work was not good... he simply just did not pay them.

That's a lie, something you need to use daily when the truth doesn't support your ****.

Here is my exact quote:

You do realize that your story is **** that's 4 years old, don't you?

So show me where you claim I EVER said that it didn't matter?
Was Trump ever even asked by your beloved fake news media to respond to that accusation?
Off hand I'd say no, because then they'd have to print both sides of the story, and that would destroy their narrative.
Instead, they publish half a story, and leave it to the gullible Democrat ***-lickers like you to carry their bucket of **** for them!

 

maineman » 01 Apr 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 10:18 am

"You know he is lying when his lips are moving"  is a well known idiomatic expression.  Is English your second language, perhaps?  I have heard that the ESL classes that most schools teach for their GED qualification are light on idioms.  That might explain it. (just kidding)

No one is saying that his Easter message is not constitutionally protected.  But is it PRESIDENTIAL?  Is it MATURE?  Is Trump's Easter message the sort of thing you believe is appropriate for the person asking to be elected to, undoubtedly, the single most important and powerful position of leadership on the planet?  Does his message give you the feeling that he will have the calm, circumspect, wise, selfless gravitas needed to steer the ship of state through choppy seas? 

Look.  I get it.  Both of these candidates are too old.  Both of them are past their prime.  2028 will UNDOUBTEDLY be a generational election where the boomers pass the baton to the Gen-Xers and millennials.  Both parties will undoubtedly have vigorous primaries filled with bright young leaders with a wide array of visions for America's path forward.  We will have two interesting choices and watching the primaries and the debates will help re-ignite patriotism and civic pride.  Re-read those two Easter messages.  Which of those two guys do you really, honestly, believe has the better chance of landing this ship of state back at the dock in one piece so that the new captain can sail away on it?

trump and biden both suck.

jerrab » 01 Apr 2024, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2024, 11:23 am

trump and biden both suck.

Well, at least you're half right, which is quite an accomplishment for someone like you.
 

Are his lips moving?

Then he's lying!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1oFO1a
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/13/politics ... index.html

  BRICS DOUBLES IN SIZE in 2024   




 

maineman » 13 Aug 2024, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 11:59 am

Are his lips moving?

Then he's lying!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1oFO1a
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/13/politics ... index.html

Unlike you, this is why I am not voting for either one of them.  

maineman » 13 Aug 2024, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 11:59 am

If my daughter's lips are moving....

They are wrapped around *** cock.



 

True

Murica is a wreck.

WASH DC is a clown-show.  

Sumela » 13 Aug 2024, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 12:05 pm

True

Noooooooooooo date within your race 

Buck Naked » 13 Aug 2024, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 12:11 pm

Noooooooooooo date within your race 

Homo sapien covers all ancestral lineages evolved in separate temperate zones in this atmosphere. Physical characteristics may vary but Chromosomes and DNA strands work between all of the original 5 categories of racism developed after language barriers typecast stereotypical behavior of every tribe/ancestral lineage.

what are the titles of people in a family tree, roots, truck, branches, twigs, leaves. roots are all previous generation gaps prior to great great grandparents being the truck, 8 great grandparents are the libs, grandparents are the branches, parents are the twigs great great grandchildren arrive each season/ generation gap forward.

then you have siblings to each generation gap being separate trees in the forest. You just won't engage your conceived brain to overrule what you were taught to mind come hell or high water every day alive.