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Cannonpointer » 09 Apr 2024, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2024, 1:09 pm

Actually, free enterprise can only be attacked  never subverted. It operates without government force - unlike comnism or cappulism or fashism. 

No need for government means no corrupting force. It's just people interacting voluntarily. PEOPLE will be corrupt, will cheat, will violate laws, etc. But FREE ENTERPRISE is incorruptible. 
 

That is just intellectual interpretation by someone dedicated to death to stay in character cradle to grave or extinction arrives first.

31stArrival » 09 Apr 2024, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2024, 5:24 pm

Cannonpointer » 09 Apr 2024, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2024, 1:09 pm

Actually, free enterprise can only be attacked  never subverted. It operates without government force - unlike comnism or cappulism or fashism. 

No need for government means no corrupting force. It's just people interacting voluntarily. PEOPLE will be corrupt, will cheat, will violate laws, etc. But FREE ENTERPRISE is incorruptible.

That is just intellectual interpretation by someone dedicated to death to stay in character cradle to grave or extinction arrives first.

Thank you for proving my point. All that monkey ****, and you failed to corrupt free enterprise.

Cannonpointer » 09 Apr 2024, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2024, 1:09 pm

Actually, free enterprise can only be attacked  never subverted. It operates without government force - unlike comnism or cappulism or fashism. 

No need for government means no corrupting force. It's just people interacting voluntarily. PEOPLE will be corrupt, will cheat, will violate laws, etc. But FREE ENTERPRISE is incorruptible.

You're going to have to reassess the bolded part...  

In Ancient Greece, the (((tiny hats))) would rub their hands together, GLEEFULLY awaiting the moment that a Greek farmer's crops in storage were about to spoil, and then buy up everything for copper coins on the silver or gold.

I am sure the (((usurers))) came up with their plans under the GUISE of "free enterprise," long before capitalism was established.

(Source: Mefobills from Unz.com)

I almost feel like posting a new set of comments by that guy here...  

 
 

This is my nomination for the best comments section ever......https://youtu.be/fmO-ziHU_D8?si=yafuhLt_eeuF1mgz


7 years ago
A sneak peek at the 2060 Presidential debate.

4 years ago
This is what the allies died for

2 years ago
I don’t wanna live in a world where this is considered academic excellence.

8 months ago
Makes me glad to be European.

9 years ago
You know what's racist?

Holding people to a lower standard in the guise of equality.


9 years ago
Did anyone actually understand what they were talking about? All I heard was "AH AH AH NIGGA AHHA HA NIGGA AHA"


1 year ago (edited)
According to my television commercials, black ppl are now 115% of the US population


6 years ago
By far the worst part of this video is the reporter beaming with praise, as if this was not a total mockery of rhetoric and reason.

This is what happens when you pander to the lowest denominator.

2 years ago
this made me physically cringe. the fact this kind of idiocy was happening 8 years ago really makes me question why I was pushed so hard in school if this is considered intelligent and successful.

102



8 months ago
"I don't want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle."
- Joe Biden


7 years ago
All you have to do to win anything is call your opponent racist.


5 years ago
"Can you believe two days ago I was sitting in jail?" YES


1 year ago
I’m genuinely insulted by how difficult it is for so many intelligent students of the last 10 years and many years to come to get into the top universities while having perfect everything meanwhile these girls could gain acceptance to these schools with half the stats of a white or Asian kid. Why are we letting politics mess with the lives of real children. Let merit actually mean something if you claim we live in a meritocracy.


2 years ago
So let me get this straight....the argument was that Wypipo Raycis? This is an actual debate being held in black colleges? It didn't even sound like a debate, it was just tribal noises and that dude reciting a tupac song......why?

GHETTOBLASTER » 10 Apr 2024, 12:52 am » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 12:52 am

This is my nomination for the best comments section ever......https://youtu.be/fmO-ziHU_D8?si=yafuhLt_eeuF1mgz

7 years ago
A sneak peek at the 2060 Presidential debate.

4 years ago
This is what the allies died for

2 years ago
I don’t wanna live in a world where this is considered academic excellence.

8 months ago
Makes me glad to be European.

9 years ago
You know what's racist?

Holding people to a lower standard in the guise of equality.

9 years ago
Did anyone actually understand what they were talking about? All I heard was "AH AH AH NIGGA AHHA HA NIGGA AHA"

1 year ago (edited)
According to my television commercials, black ppl are now 115% of the US population

6 years ago
By far the worst part of this video is the reporter beaming with praise, as if this was not a total mockery of rhetoric and reason.

This is what happens when you pander to the lowest denominator.

2 years ago
this made me physically cringe. the fact this kind of idiocy was happening 8 years ago really makes me question why I was pushed so hard in school if this is considered intelligent and successful.

102

8 months ago
"I don't want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle."
- Joe Biden

7 years ago
All you have to do to win anything is call your opponent racist.

5 years ago
"Can you believe two days ago I was sitting in jail?" YES

1 year ago
I’m genuinely insulted by how difficult it is for so many intelligent students of the last 10 years and many years to come to get into the top universities while having perfect everything meanwhile these girls could gain acceptance to these schools with half the stats of a white or Asian kid. Why are we letting politics mess with the lives of real children. Let merit actually mean something if you claim we live in a meritocracy.

2 years ago
So let me get this straight....the argument was that Wypipo Raycis? This is an actual debate being held in black colleges? It didn't even sound like a debate, it was just tribal noises and that dude reciting a tupac song......why?

I'm surprised the censors at (((Google))) haven't closed the comments section for this video. Maybe these...blasphemers haven't been reported? 

Shut it down!

Majik » 03 Apr 2024, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Apr 2024, 12:04 pm

I hold no illusions ...
the only way to reverse this **** now is by force.

Next time make sure the future Truckers' protest types keep their hard earned money in Bitcoin, gold, and silver...not the (((globalist bankers'))) vaults where the numbers can be manipulated at will...by the same (((evil cabal)))

LowIQTrash » 10 Apr 2024, 12:58 am » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 12:58 am

I'm surprised the censors at (((Google))) haven't closed the comments section for this video. Maybe these...blasphemers haven't been reported? 

Shut it down!

Last year  I looked for this video and couldn't find it.
I think this is the original upload complete with the original comments.
The key words I used for tonight's search  were....OUR NATIONS TOP COLLEGIATE ORATORS.........
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 09 Apr 2024, 6:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2024, 6:08 pm

Thank you for proving my point. All that monkey ****, and you failed to corrupt free enterprise.

Free enterprise is absolute power of suggesting life isn't self evident and people believe genetics hasn't eternally separated everyone so far. I didn't start it and I cannot end it, but I can describe how it became everything going forward now in plain sight.

Yes I face ridicule 24/7, shunned by family, exiled by community, typecast as a traitor to humanity, blasphemy against supernatural entities of pure intellect and no physical form.

Well I mapped out event horizons every sole reproduction adapts in when occupying time adapting to the moment when ancestrally alive specifically living as displaced.

My way of accountability with physical absolutes rather than comparing theories and theologies used last 7,000 years my ancestry enabled absolute corruption of their own ancestry including me since birth.

I just never could mind ideas life is too difficult to navigate uniquely me. I was accurate but people defending human rights won't accept anything I say. I have been society's cast away for 42 years since I started standing my time displaced anywhere I am living forward now.

My instinctive civility of understanding life doesn't exceed the space I occupy keeps me from over reacting to people destroying everything I earned compromising with humanity.

So I have used kinetic honesty about adapting as displaced and every character of humanity calls it gibberish regardless the social mantra they defend come "Hell or high water.".

Genetics eternally separates ancestors by the numbers occupying the moment here and that is inclusive of any universal position present.

31stArrival » 10 Apr 2024, 7:58 am » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 7:58 am

Free enterprise is absolute power of suggesting life isn't self evident and people believe genetics hasn't eternally separated everyone so far.

Incorrect.

Fee enterprise is simply the flow of goods and services that naturally arises between unconstrained people. 

You need to go back to school. You have things a bit twisted. 
 

LowIQTrash » 10 Apr 2024, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 12:04 am

You're going to have to reassess the bolded part...  

In Ancient Greece, the (((tiny hats))) would rub their hands together, GLEEFULLY awaiting the moment that a Greek farmer's crops in storage were about to spoil, and then buy up everything for copper coins on the silver or gold.

I am sure the (((usurers))) came up with their plans under the GUISE of "free enterprise," long before capitalism was established.

(Source: Mefobills from Unz.com)

I almost feel like posting a new set of comments by that guy here...

Free enterprise was not corrupt - people were. 

If free enterprise were corrupt, there would be a penalty for refusing to sell cheap. the only penalty in your scenario is rotted grain. That was one dumb farmer. 
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Apr 2024, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 6:47 pm

Free enterprise was not corrupt - people were. 

If free enterprise were corrupt, there would be a penalty for refusing to sell cheap. the only penalty in your scenario is rotted grain. That was one dumb farmer.

There are those who believe free enterprise eventually devolves into “capitalism” - the grandiose magnifier of corruption - once the rate of profit approaches zero…
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Apr 2024, 6:40 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 6:40 pm

Incorrect.

Fee enterprise is simply the flow of goods and services that naturally arises between unconstrained people. 

You need to go back to school. You have things a bit twisted. 
 

Social narrative vs ancestral timing of numbers occupying time today. First choice to believe in anything else is possible until last chance to correct humanity adapting in space only living timed apart now as conceived to replace previous generation gaps existed so far.

Circle of life vs cycle living forward now. Zero sum gain 23 hours 56 minutes 56 seconds each rotation of the planet. What becomes of the extra 3 minutes and 4 seconds that statistical averages coverup 24/7?

Time that never physically exists in evolving forward uniquely here February 29th every 4th year by Gregorian Calendar or 5 days of hell every 20 years Mayan Calendar.

Mayans destroyed themselves. Every civilization intellectually built on relative time fails for the same reason. Original Sin, First Choice, Last Chance to correct what humanity does every generation gap lived to date since dawn of civilization people labeled by context stopped being honest about adapting as displaced while genetically evolving forward equally here now.

Self deception to social consensus every ancestor believes nobody knew how or why living is self evidently what living became today.

I unravel hypothetical scenarios. You twist maybes into social fruition every generation gap added. I am not the villain here. I am just a reproduction trying to stop this species from creating self extinction pretending life is more than time adapting as displaced balancing forward as uniquely living now.

LowIQTrash » 10 Apr 2024, 11:07 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 11:07 pm

There are those who believe free enterprise eventually devolves into “capitalism” - the grandiose magnifier of corruption - once the rate of profit approaches zero…

Free enterprise cannot morph into anything, or it is no longer free enterprise. For it to morph into capitalism, the government gun has to come out of the holster.

Free enterprise is, very simply, our natural estate. It simply arises immediately wherever two or more are gathered. 

31stArrival » 11 Apr 2024, 4:40 am » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 4:40 am

Social narrative vs ancestral timing of numbers occupying time today.

No.

Free enterprise has nothing to do with any jabber. It's just what happens when people get together - that's all. 

Cannonpointer » 11 Apr 2024, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 2:58 pm

Free enterprise cannot morph into anything, or it is no longer free enterprise. For it to morph into capitalism, the government gun has to come out of the holster.

Free enterprise is, very simply, our natural estate. It simply arises immediately wherever two or more are gathered.

And there are those who would argue violence, amplified by the government gun, is also our natural estate...(see: 200,000 yrs of history) which is why "free enterprise" as a system never seems to last very long. 

Cannon, your argument is exactly the same stuff I heard when reading mutualist (anarchist) works by the like of Proudhon. 

Proudhon favored workers' council and associations or cooperatives as well as individual worker/peasant possession over private ownership or the nationalization of land and workplaces. He considered social revolution to be achievable in a peaceful manner. Proudhon unsuccessfully tried to create a national bank, to be funded by what became an abortive attempt at an income tax on capitalists and shareholders. Similar in some respects to a credit union, it would have given interest-free loans.[20]

LowIQTrash » 11 Apr 2024, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 3:03 pm

And there are those who would argue violence, amplified by the government gun, is also our natural estate...(see: 200,000 yrs of history) which is why "free enterprise" as a system never seems to last very long. 

Cannon, your argument is exactly the same stuff I heard when reading mutualist (anarchist) works by the like of Proudhon.

My argument is not intended as apologia. Merely as pure distinction.

Cannonpointer » 11 Apr 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 2:59 pm

No.

Free enterprise has nothing to do with any jabber. It's just what happens when people get together - that's all. 

Every economic war is a jabber of hypothetical values used against everyone by everyone pretending they don't know how evolving works naturally timed apart adapting to the moment here.

Please, character role playing counts as everything justified in a court of law, come Hell or high water.

31stArrival » 11 Apr 2024, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 3:09 pm

Every economic war is a jabber of hypothetical values used against everyone by everyone pretending they don't know how evolving works naturally timed apart adapting to the moment here.

Please, character role playing counts as everything justified in a court of law, come Hell or high water.

You done?

Even among jabberers, distinctions matter. Definitions matter. If I have to distinguish capitalism from free enterprise with you hanging from my balls, so be it. 

It remains a fact that free enterprise is the economic system that naturally arises between humans, with no need for any government action to enable or cause or modify it. 
 

LowIQTrash » 11 Apr 2024, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 3:03 pm

And there are those who would argue violence, amplified by the government gun, is also our natural estate...(see: 200,000 yrs of history) which is why "free enterprise" as a system never seems to last very long. 

Cannon, your argument is exactly the same stuff I heard when reading mutualist (anarchist) works by the like of Proudhon.

Aristotle founded all of western science one three simple distinctions:

A is A and can never be B;
No two things can be in one place at the same time;
No thing can be in two places at once. 

Those three claims are the basis of science - and the first makes manifest the importance of distinctions. Distinguishing things from other things is the very beginning of living with science and not against science. Therefore, definitions matter. And the definition of free enterprise is the economic system that naturally arises between people at liberty to trade with each other. No government gun required. As soon as the guns come out, free enterprise is replaced by something else. 

As far as free enterprise not lasting very long, I would argue it never dies. It never ever goes away. Capitalism can be and does get outlawed. So does communism. But free enterprise never goes away - it just has to happen in the shadows now and again. Communism CANNOT live in the shadows - nor can capitalism. Both require government support to exist. Free enterprise can happen between two people on a deserted island. Capitalism and communism cannot. 

Cannonpointer » 11 Apr 2024, 3:13 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2024, 3:13 pm

You done?

Even among jabberers, distinctions matter. Definitions matter. If I have to distinguish capitalism from free enterprise with you hanging from my balls, so be it. 

It remains a fact that free enterprise is the economic system that naturally arises between humans, with no need for any government action to enable or cause or modify it. 
 

No I am not done describing how corruption reigns in every society humanity defends globally within this species and each generation gap present.