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*rippy38 » 06 Apr 2024, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 8:17 am

How is what I did any different from you striking through someone's reply?

(Hint: It's not!)
 
Besides... it was just another leftist op-ed hit piece.

Because I strike through the bitterness, with which I do not wish to waste time....

There is absolutely nothing I can learn from reading it.

You decline to read because you're lazy and convinced that your "common sense" is enough to get you by.

Reality is an inconvenience.

*rippy38 » 06 Apr 2024, 8:17 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 8:17 am

How is what I did any different from you striking through someone's reply?

(Hint: It's not!)
 
Besides... it was just another leftist op-ed hit piece.

Besides... it was just another leftist op-ed hit piece.

You didn't read it, but you know it's a "hit piece".....

How can you be certain?

Because it quotes Grifty verbatim.

R.Suave » 06 Apr 2024, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 9:53 am

Because I strike through the bitterness, with which I do not wish to waste time....

There is absolutely nothing I can learn from reading it.

You decline to read because you're lazy and convinced that your "common sense" is enough to get you by.

Reality is an inconvenience.

**** that jive...

 
 

*rippy38 » 06 Apr 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:04 am

**** that jive...

 

R. Suave » 05 Apr 2024, 5:31 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2024, 5:31 pm

And you want your opinion to matter..


 

My opinion never matters to people wishing life wasn't self evident destroying anyone that understands the self evident way evolving works naturally timing each ancestor alive native to this atmosphere living forward now.

R.Suave » 05 Apr 2024, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2024, 5:12 pm

At the heart of the speech was his original swindle, and still his go-to scam: convincing his supporters that their lives were being destroyed by dark-skinned invaders. It was the story of how “Crooked Joe and his migrant armies of dangerous criminals” are producing a “bloodbath” among innocent, native-born Americans.

 It’s not the least bit true. Homicide and violent crime, after rising during the pandemic, have dropped for two straight years and are lower than during Trump’s final year in office. There is scant evidence that immigrants — legal or undocumented — commit more than their share of crime, and a lot of evidence that migrants are more law-abiding, as The Post’s Glenn Kessler has detailed...

 To illustrate the fictitious wave of “migrant crime,” Trump, at his stops in Michigan and Wisconsin, cited violent crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. (“Last week, another illegal alien criminal was arrested in Alabama for raping a mentally incapacitated 14-year-old girl.”)

 You could just as easily cherry-pick from police blotters to make it appear as though there’s a crime wave being perpetrated by evangelical Christians, or Trump supporters — and it would be just as dubious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... bay-rally/

But the stats are not reliable:KELLY: Glad to have you with us. OK. So it seems like some places were very good at submitting data under this new system. Others were very not good. Where are the big blind spots?LI: Yeah, for sure. So we have some states like California and Florida, where almost no agency in that state submitted any data to the FBI. And there are also a lot of larger cities. You know, the largest police department, New York Police Department, didn't submit anything to the FBI. So a lot of blind spots.KELLY: A lot of blind spots. I mean, I'm wondering how accurate the numbers can possibly be if - just to take the two biggest cities in the country, New York and LA, they didn't report at all.LI: Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good question. And it's something that criminologists and people who work in criminal justice have been very worried about for a while now. So the FBI is used to receiving data from more than 90% of police departments across the country. But like you said earlier, in 2021, because they changed their data collection method, the number have dropped to roughly 60%. So instead of saying a finite number, you know, X number of crimes took place, they're saying we think the range of crime that took place in 2021 is somewhere between Y and Z. So for violent crime, property crime and homicides, the number of crimes could have gone up, gone down or stayed the same. We really don't know.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/11270478 ... incomplete

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023 ... -gap-nibrs

With ncmplete data you can't compare year to year.

*rippy38 » 06 Apr 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:04 am

**** that jive...

TIDR

Huey » 06 Apr 2024, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:23 am

But the stats are not reliable:KELLY: Glad to have you with us. OK. So it seems like some places were very good at submitting data under this new system. Others were very not good. Where are the big blind spots?LI: Yeah, for sure. So we have some states like California and Florida, where almost no agency in that state submitted any data to the FBI. And there are also a lot of larger cities. You know, the largest police department, New York Police Department, didn't submit anything to the FBI. So a lot of blind spots.KELLY: A lot of blind spots. I mean, I'm wondering how accurate the numbers can possibly be if - just to take the two biggest cities in the country, New York and LA, they didn't report at all.LI: Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good question. And it's something that criminologists and people who work in criminal justice have been very worried about for a while now. So the FBI is used to receiving data from more than 90% of police departments across the country. But like you said earlier, in 2021, because they changed their data collection method, the number have dropped to roughly 60%. So instead of saying a finite number, you know, X number of crimes took place, they're saying we think the range of crime that took place in 2021 is somewhere between Y and Z. So for violent crime, property crime and homicides, the number of crimes could have gone up, gone down or stayed the same. We really don't know.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/11270478 ... incomplete

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023 ... -gap-nibrs

With ncmplete data you can't compare year to year.

What stats?





 

R.Suave » 06 Apr 2024, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 9:53 am

Reality is an inconvenience.

Best line ever to describe your ineptitude and inability to cope.....you really aren't too bright, Low Watt.

Bidencrimefamily » 06 Apr 2024, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 9:19 am

The truth doesn't matter to this cult.

You're the Mythomaniac POS  that claimed you couldn't find any toilet paper for sale during Trump's presidency and that you have the receipts to prove it...!!!


 

R.Suave » 06 Apr 2024, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:25 am

What stats?

Yup, you did not read the citation or click the links.  

R.Suave » 05 Apr 2024, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2024, 5:12 pm

At the heart of the speech was his original swindle, and still his go-to scam: convincing his supporters that their lives were being destroyed by dark-skinned invaders. It was the story of how “Crooked Joe and his migrant armies of dangerous criminals” are producing a “bloodbath” among innocent, native-born Americans.

 It’s not the least bit true. Homicide and violent crime, after rising during the pandemic, have dropped for two straight years and are lower than during Trump’s final year in office. There is scant evidence that immigrants — legal or undocumented — commit more than their share of crime, and a lot of evidence that migrants are more law-abiding, as The Post’s Glenn Kessler has detailed...

 To illustrate the fictitious wave of “migrant crime,” Trump, at his stops in Michigan and Wisconsin, cited violent crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. (“Last week, another illegal alien criminal was arrested in Alabama for raping a mentally incapacitated 14-year-old girl.”)

 You could just as easily cherry-pick from police blotters to make it appear as though there’s a crime wave being perpetrated by evangelical Christians, or Trump supporters — and it would be just as dubious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... bay-rally/

No thoughts, etc...copy/paste. Still no intelligent thoughts of his own. 

TDS

Media comment justified. 

Level 0. 

R.Suave » 06 Apr 2024, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:25 am

What stats?

I'll lead with this:

Roughly a quarter of the U.S. population was not represented in the 2022 federal crime data, according to a Stateline analysis. More than 6,000 of 22,116 law enforcement agencies did not submit data.

Major police departments, including those in big cities such as Los Angeles and New York, did not submit any data in 2021. NYPD said it couldn’t submit summary statistics in 2021 as it had previously because of the FBI’s change in requirements, but was NIBRS-certified this year. Both cities’ departments did submit summary data to the FBI in 2022 through the old reporting system.

 The FBI’s 2021 agency participation data shows that the 10 states with the lowest reporting rates included a balanced mix of both blue and red states, while last year’s data shows more red states among the 10 states with the lowest reporting rates.

https://kansasreflector.com/2023/10/29/ ... mit%20data.

The reason for this is the PDs were not NIBRS certified and had not received training or gotten the upgrades.  This means the stats from 21 and 22 are under reported.   We don't know if the stats went up or down.

PS.  The answer to your question, "what stats" is in the first para of the part of the article I posted.

 
 

It was under the Soros / Obama Admin that Hispanics were lumped in with Caucasians for the crime reports.

What a simple way to dishonestly present a picture that Hispanic crime isn't as bad as it really is.

Try to find ANY ANNUAL FBI Table 43A reports after 2019 now.
These reports were the Gold Standard of violent crime stats sorted by race until Soros / Obama were elected and now it looks like Team Biden has quietly done away with what used to be THE definitive violent crime report.
In the years that led up to the mysterious disappearance of Table 43A....I started noticing that accessing this report was getting more and more difficult. It was no longer accessible from the web site's "front door"...I would have to do "off site" searches to gain access to this report.
At the time [2020 or so] I figured it wouldn't be long until the [[[JWO]]] scraps this report altogether and it looks like I was right.

Huey » 06 Apr 2024, 11:37 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:37 am

Yup, you did not read the citation or click the links.

What I find so funny is how a guy that hangs on the Washington Post's and CNN's every word, calls someone else "sheeple".

I'm not even gonna mention Vanity Fair.

 
 

*rippy38 » 06 Apr 2024, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 12:35 pm

What I find so funny is how a guy that hangs on the Washington Post's and CNN's every word, calls someone else "sheeple".

I'm not even gonna mention Vanity Fair.

Don't forgot this guy:

https://showercapblog.com

Huey » 06 Apr 2024, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 12:42 pm

Don't forgot this guy:

https://showercapblog.com

   
 

*rippy38 » 06 Apr 2024, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 12:35 pm

What I find so funny is how a guy that hangs on the Washington Post's and CNN's every word, calls someone else "sheeple".

I'm not even gonna mention Vanity Fair.

What's so funny about his "Gotcha Photo" is how BV would sheepishly upload that photo [without any explanation as to WTF that photo is supposed to show]  at the end of his failed, disjointed and blathering arguments.
none of us had any clue what that photo was supposed to represent other than BV's frustration with losing another argument.
BV thought that silly   VF photo was his "ACE UP HIS SLEEVE"..but he was playing with a deck that only  queers who subscribe to Vanity Fair would have any idea what VF claimed that photo showed.
BV did this for a long time until recently [when his credibility had reached such an all time  low point] where he said to himself,  "**** It" and finally "broke the news": to the normal men at this forum what that photo supposedly represents.     

 
 

R. Suave » 06 Apr 2024, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2024, 11:25 am

What stats?

Every reality of humanity is factualized by reasonable doubt every generation gap forward regardless the state of mind and intellectual souls saying life isn't self evident evolving only happens as occupying time reproductively here now.

R.Suave » 05 Apr 2024, 5:12 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2024, 5:12 pm

At the heart of the speech was his original swindle, and still his go-to scam: convincing his supporters that their lives were being destroyed by dark-skinned invaders. It was the story of how “Crooked Joe and his migrant armies of dangerous criminals” are producing a “bloodbath” among innocent, native-born Americans.

 It’s not the least bit true. Homicide and violent crime, after rising during the pandemic, have dropped for two straight years and are lower than during Trump’s final year in office. There is scant evidence that immigrants — legal or undocumented — commit more than their share of crime, and a lot of evidence that migrants are more law-abiding, as The Post’s Glenn Kessler has detailed...

 To illustrate the fictitious wave of “migrant crime,” Trump, at his stops in Michigan and Wisconsin, cited violent crimes committed by undocumented immigrants. (“Last week, another illegal alien criminal was arrested in Alabama for raping a mentally incapacitated 14-year-old girl.”)

 You could just as easily cherry-pick from police blotters to make it appear as though there’s a crime wave being perpetrated by evangelical Christians, or Trump supporters — and it would be just as dubious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... bay-rally/

The truth is what they ignore the most.