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*rippy38 » 16 Apr 2024, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:03 am

I have to agree with Beekeeper here.

You're gonna have to provide quotes on this accusation, or just admit that your lying... one of the two.

did I put it in quotes?

it’s what he implied 

feel better?

don’t you have a tribute thread to tend to?

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:07 am

did I put it in quotes?

it’s what he implied 

feel better?

don’t you have a tribute thread to tend to?

You said "your words"... and yes I did put that in quotes because that's what you said.

Quotes = Your words.

 
 
 

*rippy38 » 16 Apr 2024, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:14 am

You said "your words"... and yes I did put that in quotes because that what you said.

Quotes = Your words.

Suave is looking for you   
 

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 9:17 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:17 am

Suave is looking for you 

No he isn't... he runded off...


 
 

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:07 am

did I put it in quotes?

it’s what he implied 

feel better?

don’t you have a tribute thread to tend to?

No, PIGTURD, it's what YOU IMPLIED I SAID!! 

MY issue is with MURDERING A BABY. YOUR issue is with "monsters" that you deem UNDESIRABLE and should have any babies that happens to be created, SUCKED OUT AND MURDERED FROM THE MOTHER'S WOMB!!

I OFFERED ALTERNATIVES. YOUR OFFERED MURDER.

You boy Adolf would be sooooo proud of your determination of how best to use EUGENICS!!

Beekeeper » 16 Apr 2024, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:55 am

No, PIGTURD, it's what YOU IMPLIED I SAID!! 

MY issue is with MURDERING A BABY. YOUR issue is with "monsters" that you deem UNDESIRABLE and should have any babies that happens to be created, SUCKED OUT AND MURDERED FROM THE MOTHER'S WOMB!!

I OFFERED ALTERNATIVES. YOUR OFFERED MURDER.

You boy Adolf would be sooooo proud of your determination of how best to use EUGENICS!!

The only Alternative you offered was for the raped to shut up and have the baby
 

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 9:07 am

did I put it in quotes?

it’s what he implied 

feel better?

don’t you have a tribute thread to tend to?

What "tribute" thread?

I haven't called anyone out or been called out in topic post in a long time.

LOL


 

*rippy38 » 16 Apr 2024, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 10:02 am

What "tribute" thread?

I haven't called anyone out or been called out in topic post in a long time.

LOL

Didn’t say you started it

the one where you guys are talking to yourselves 
 

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 10:03 am

Didn’t say you started it

the one where you guys are talking to yourselves

You mean the one that you're pretending not to read.

LOL


 

*rippy38 » 16 Apr 2024, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 10:04 am

You mean the one that you're pretending not to read.

LOL

Where did I do that?

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 10:06 am

Where did I do that?

So... you have been reading it.

 
 

*rippy38 » 16 Apr 2024, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 10:31 am

So... you have been reading it.

yup

comedy gold   

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 10:54 am

yup

comedy gold 

Best free entertainment on the interwebs.

LOL
 

Mrkelly » 12 Apr 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:08 am

because tRump is pro choice

So you believe that Trump is pro-choice, but he intentionally selected 3 Supreme Court justices who were strong proponents of pro-life, huh?

Tell me, fool.  What cereal box did you read to arrive at that kind of absurdity?

Zeets2 » 16 Apr 2024, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 11:00 am

So you believe that Trump is pro-choice, but he intentionally selected 3 Supreme Court justices who were strong proponents of pro-life, huh?

Tell me, fool.  What cereal box did you read to arrive at that kind of absurdity?

he said he was 

don’t tell me that he lied   

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 11:04 am

he said he was 

don’t tell me that he lied 

He's stated that he has ALWAYS hated abortion, and he's changed his position from 25 years ago where he once stated he was pro-choice.
Isn't he allowed to do so, when dozens of politicians have done the exact same thing over the last 25 years?
Stating that he WAS pro-choice is using the past tense, isn't it?
Wouldn't the present tense be used if he was still pro-choice today?
And likewise, wouldn't he have appointed 3 pro-choice justices to the Supreme Court if he was?
Pay attention for a change to what a politician DOES, and NOT what he says!  Had you done so, you wouldn't have believed that Biden would govern as a moderate, would work to bring the parties together, would favor closing the border, and would repeal the Hyde Amendment, which prohibited federal funds from being used for abortions, just to give you a few examples.

There is no question that the issue presents a dilemma for those of us with a soul, something lacking in most Democrats.  The conflict exists because those like Trump (and myself, for that matter) DESPISE abortion, but we also believe in the rights of other individuals to make that choice for themselves.

And yes, I understand how difficult it is to comprehend our compassion for both sides of the issue.  How lucky you liberals must be to have no such conflict and provide with 100% conviction that you support everything on the issue INCLUDING partial-birth abortion, after-birth abortion, all late-term abortions, and even abortions determined by the sex preference of the mother.

How easy it must be to live without a soul!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Apr 2024, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 11:34 am

He's stated that he has ALWAYS hated abortion, and he's changed his position from 25 years ago where he once stated he was pro-choice.
Isn't he allowed to do so, when dozens of politicians have done the exact same thing over the last 25 years?
Stating that he WAS pro-choice is using the past tense, isn't it?
Wouldn't the present tense be used if he was still pro-choice today?
And likewise, wouldn't he have appointed 3 pro-choice justices to the Supreme Court if he was?
Pay attention for a change to what a politician DOES, and NOT what he says!  Had you done so, you wouldn't have believed that Biden would govern as a moderate, would work to bring the parties together, would favor closing the border, and would repeal the Hyde Amendment, which prohibited federal funds from being used for abortions, just to give you a few examples.

There is no question that the issue presents a dilemma for those of us with a soul, something lacking in most Democrats.  The conflict exists because those like Trump (and myself, for that matter) DESPISE abortion, but we also believe in the rights of other individuals to make that choice for themselves.

And yes, I understand how difficult it is to comprehend our compassion for both sides of the issue.  How lucky you liberals must be to have no such conflict and provide with 100% conviction that you support everything on the issue INCLUDING partial-birth abortion, after-birth abortion, all late-term abortions, and even abortions determined by the sex preference of the mother.

How easy it must be to live without a soul!

So he did lie   

you tRumpers are all alike

can’t even take a joke about tRump

and please show me where I have said any of the other stupid **** you posted 
 

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 12:10 pm

So he did lie   

you tRumpers are all alike

can’t even take a joke about tRump

and please show me where I have said any of the other stupid **** you posted

No, he's on record as ALWAYS opposing abortion, but was also for giving women the right to decide it for themselves.  He's adjusted that opinion since liberals have pushed pro-choice to include late-term abortion, partial birth abortion, after-birth abortion, and abortion when the mother prefers a different sex of the baby.

Now that we've got you way out on that limb, are you aware that Biden ALSO changed his opinion on abortion?  Didn't HE lie about it the way you claim Trump did?  Need to see that for yourself?

When Biden Was Pro-Life
 ARJUN SINGH  May 9, 2022 National Review

Biden entered the U.S. Senate in 1973, just 17 days before Roe v. Wade was decided. It was a momentous time in American politics, and anger at the decision seethed nationwide. Biden, fresh from unseating a Republican in Delaware, sounded much like Republicans then and now. “I don’t like the decision. I think it went too far,” he said, adding that a woman didn’t have “the sole right to say what should happen to her body” when carrying an unborn child.
In the years that followed, Biden dropped his political opposition to abortion, though it was chipped rather than swept away. Four years later, in 1977, he voted for the Hyde Amendment — a spending-bill proviso that, to this day, bans federal funding to subsidize abortions. He voted many times thereafter to uphold the Helms Amendment, which bans foreign aid for abortions. Even more, he wrote and passed the ‘Biden Amendment,’ which bans federal funding for foreign abortion research; it’s been in every spending bill since 1981.
 Biden, however, now sings a different song to serenade his left-wing base, whatever his personal views may be. Still, even as his political tune gradually changed, personal sentiments filtered through. He’s maintained that “life begins at conception.” “That’s the Church’s judgement. I accept it,” he said as late as 2015.

So, let's review what we've learned here.
Trump STRENGTHENED his previous position that he HATES abortion by now believing it IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, and taking actions to return the decision on legality to the states, where the 10th Amendment REQUIRES it to be!
Biden, on the other hand, has NEVER stated he's changed his mind, still believing as the Church does that "life begins at conception", has he?  So it is NOT a question that he believes abortion is not murder of that life, he's changed his position THAT SUCH A MURDER IS NOW OK and he's now totally in favor of all abortions, at any time for any reason.

Now tell me, Kelly.  Which person of the two is more consistent with their beliefs and which one lacks a soul?
 

Zeets2 » 16 Apr 2024, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 12:36 pm

No, he's on record as ALWAYS opposing abortion, but was also for giving women the right to decide it for themselves.  He's adjusted that opinion since liberals have pushed pro-choice to include late-term abortion, partial birth abortion, after-birth abortion, and abortion when the mother prefers a different sex of the baby.

Now that we've got you way out on that limb, are you aware that Biden ALSO changed his opinion on abortion?  Didn't HE lie about it the way you claim Trump did?  Need to see that for yourself?

So, let's review what we've learned here.
Trump STRENGTHENED his previous position that he HATES abortion by now believing it IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, and taking actions to return the decision on legality to the states, where the 10th Amendment REQUIRES it to be!
Biden, on the other hand, has NEVER stated he's changed his mind, still believing as the Church does that "life begins at conception", has he?  So it is NOT a question that he believes abortion is not murder of that life, he's changed his position THAT SUCH A MURDER IS NOW OK and he's now totally in favor of all abortions, at any time for any reason.

Now tell me, Kelly.  Which person of the two is more consistent with their beliefs and which one lacks a soul?

  like I said

you tRumpers can’t take a joke

but do go on   

Mrkelly » 16 Apr 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Apr 2024, 11:04 am

he said he was 

don’t tell me that he lied 

By definition, anyone that agrees the procedure is any circumstance, make them "pro-choice".

I am staunchly against aborting unborn children in the womb, but also understand that extenuating circumstances exist that require it sometimes... and even thought that is a very very small window for me personally, it still means that I am "pro-choice" by the definition.

The vast majority of people walking around are "pro choice"... and the extremists are on the fringes, as usual.