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Zeets2 » 12 Apr 2024, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 9:55 am

Are you so ignorant of what the 10th Amendment means?
If that was within his power, then why didn't he impose such a ban in his 4 years as president?

because tRump is pro choice 

Mrkelly » 12 Apr 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:08 am

because tRump is pro choice

Yeah, and he's also pro-gun rights. 
Does that mean you think he can also circumvent all the legislation that limits gun ownership?
Oh, and he's also against high taxes, isn't he?  Can he ban all federal income tax?
Or he could just save a few steps and outlaw liberals, no?

Maybe you should invest in taking an executive powers course.

Mrkelly » 12 Apr 2024, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 9:43 am

but but

if tRump wants a federal ban on abortion 

what about

”The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

So conversely, you are saying that ANY LAW THAT PERMITS ABORTION NATIONWIDE IS ALSO UNCONSTITUTIONAL BASED ON THE 10th Amendment!!

Which is EXACTLY what the SCOTUS RULED in the Dobbs Decision!!

It must really SUCK for you LWNJ's PIGTURDS that you can't have it just your way only, huh??

Beekeeper » 12 Apr 2024, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:26 am

So conversely, you are saying that ANY LAW THAT PERMITS ABORTION NATIONWIDE IS ALSO UNCONSTITUTIONAL BASED ON THE 10th Amendment!!

Which is EXACTLY what the SCOTUS RULED in the Dobbs Decision!!

It must really SUCK for you LWNJ's PIGTURDS that you can't have it just your way only, huh??

 

Beekeeper » 12 Apr 2024, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:26 am

So conversely, you are saying that ANY LAW THAT PERMITS ABORTION NATIONWIDE IS ALSO UNCONSTITUTIONAL BASED ON THE 10th Amendment!!

Which is EXACTLY what the SCOTUS RULED in the Dobbs Decision!!

It must really SUCK for you LWNJ's PIGTURDS that you can't have it just your way only, huh??

Trump says he will be dictator on day one. 

Why even say youre going to be dictator any point. 
 

Zeets2 » 12 Apr 2024, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:24 am

Yeah, and he's also pro-gun rights. 
Does that mean you think he can also circumvent all the legislation that limits gun ownership?
Oh, and he's also against high taxes, isn't he?  Can he ban all federal income tax?
Or he could just save a few steps and outlaw liberals, no?

Maybe you should invest in taking an executive powers course.

He wanted to get rid of due process 

but that pesky constitution got in the way   

https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=zc9y3ZdAPTJ3Kr8Q
 
 

Huey » 12 Apr 2024, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 9:26 am

While I did not Roe overturned I gotta point out that Trump had nothing to do with this bill.  Nada.  The Fed Gov does not, and was not, designed to be involved in all our life decisions.  The job of the fed government is to protect us, keep the states together, settle disputes between the states, and deal with foreign nations.

Trump BRAGS about being responsible for overturning Roe.  He - and all of the GOP - OWN Dobbs and the Alabama IVF decision and the "it's 1864 all over again so get back into your corsets and shut the **** up, bitches" Arizona Supreme Court decision.  What the **** did HE or any of you THINK was going to happen?

maineman » 12 Apr 2024, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:58 am

Trump BRAGS about being responsible for overturning Roe.  He - and all of the GOP - OWN Dobbs and the Alabama IVF decision and the "it's 1864 all over again so get back into your corsets and shut the **** up, bitches" Arizona Supreme Court decision.  What the **** did HE or any of you THINK was going to happen?

Alabama owns their law.  Arizona owns their law.  ANy state that creates a law owns it.  

Mrkelly » 12 Apr 2024, 10:33 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 10:33 am

He wanted to get rid of due process 

but that pesky constitution got in the way   

https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=zc9y3ZdAPTJ3Kr8Q

I would bet that the clown will be figuring out a way to back away from THAT bit of videotape before November.

Huey » 12 Apr 2024, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 11:01 am

Alabama owns their law.  Arizona owns their law.  ANy state that creates a law owns it.

Trump BRAGGED about getting Roe overturned.  What did he or you expect would happen????  

He - and the GOP - OWN that whether they like it or not.  the knot tying that albatross around your necks is so tight, you'll never get it loose before election day!    

maineman » 12 Apr 2024, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 11:03 am

Trump BRAGGED about getting Roe overturned.  What did he or you expect would happen????  

He - and the GOP - OWN that whether they like it or not.  the knot tying that albatross around your necks is so tight, you'll never get it loose before election day!    

 

Not sure what you are whining about.  If your opinion is that the states should decide then of course Roe needed to be overturned.

Duh.  The GOP did not overturn Row.  They did not BAN abortion.  The court removed the fed government from the equation.

And with the state of the economy, the border, inflation, interest rates, etc as well as Biden's mental deficiencies you are gonna need more that abortion to win this one. 

Huey » 12 Apr 2024, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 11:09 am

Not sure what you are whining about.  If your opinion is that the states should decide then of course Roe needed to be overturned.

Duh.  The GOP did not overturn Row.  They did not BAN abortion.  The court removed the fed government from the equation.

And with the state of the economy, the border, inflation, interest rates, etc as well as Biden's mental deficiencies you are gonna need more that abortion to win this one.

You keep telling yourself that.  

My opinion is that Roe needs to be the undisputed law of the land...so that an insulting decision like the Arizona one, does NOT ever happen again.

Biden's mental deficiencies?  Have you listened to a Trump stump speech lately????        
 

maineman » 12 Apr 2024, 11:16 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 11:16 am

You keep telling yourself that.  

My opinion is that Roe needs to be the undisputed law of the land...so that insulting decisions like the Arizona one, does NOT ever happen again.

Biden's mental deficiencies?  Have you listened to a Trump stump speech lately????      

Not your opinion.  

I think you want too much fed go involvement in our lives. 

Huey » 12 Apr 2024, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 11:21 am

Not your opinion.  

I think you want too much fed go involvement in our lives.

of course it is my opinion, just as your second sentence is yours.

maineman » 12 Apr 2024, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 11:34 am

of course it is my opinion, just as your second sentence is yours.

I am not saying it is YOUR opinion.  If that is the opinion of someone in general most would support Roe being overturned.  All it did was return to the decision back to the states.  You don't have some kind of gotcha moment with Trump.

 

maineman » 10 Apr 2024, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2024, 6:38 pm

Hitler certainly denied Jews their own bodily autonomy.

I don't really have any bloodlust, but if every one of you MAGA morons were simultaneously dragged down to Hell, I would giggle and pour myself a drink.

You are a Pedomoron. You love the party of chicks with dicks in girls locker rooms and Kiddie Drag Queen shows!

Huey » 12 Apr 2024, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 12:01 pm

I am not saying it is YOUR opinion.  If that is the opinion of someone in general most would support Roe being overturned.  All it did was return to the decision back to the states.  You don't have some kind of gotcha moment with Trump.

Cuz you say we don't?   

We tend to think otherwise.  

Trump made Roe go away.  Lots of folks, and a huge majority of women didn't LIKE the fact that Roe went away.  They are ANGRY that Roe went away.  Trump has  BRAGGED about making Roe go away.  We will make him eat his words.  Dobbs has been an albatross around the GOP's neck since the day it was announced.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 12f77326ad

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... the-state/

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/1 ... n-00074426

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abortio ... =104710552

and you think we're just gonna let this slip off the table???  

EDC4ALL! » 12 Apr 2024, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 12:56 pm

You are a Pedomoron. You love the party of chicks with dicks in girls locker rooms and Kiddie Drag Queen shows!

why do you just spew **** nonstop?  I have stated here that I am AGAINST trans athletes competing in women's sports, and I have stated here that I am absolutely AGAINST Drag events that allow children.

If you would like to have a civil debate with me about my positions versus your positions, I am ready for that.  

This ****?  You'll earn yourself a seat on the next boat to iggy island.  

Your call.  Fair warning.

maineman » 12 Apr 2024, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 1:18 pm

why do you just spew **** nonstop?  I have stated here that I am AGAINST trans athletes competing in women's sports, and I have stated here that I am absolutely AGAINST Drag events that allow children.

If you would like to have a civil debate with me about my positions versus your positions, I am ready for that.  

This ****?  You'll earn yourself a seat on the next boat to iggy island.  

Your call.  Fair warning.
 

whoooooo             

maineman » 12 Apr 2024, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2024, 1:14 pm

Cuz you say we don't?   

We tend to think otherwise.  

Trump made Roe go away.  Lots of folks, and a huge majority of women didn't LIKE the fact that Roe went away.  They are ANGRY that Roe went away.  Trump has  BRAGGED about making Roe go away.  We will make him eat his words.  Dobbs has been an albatross around the GOP's neck since the day it was announced.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... 12f77326ad

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... the-state/

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/1 ... n-00074426

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abortio ... =104710552

and you think we're just gonna let this slip off the table???

No, trump did not.

Someone brought a lawsuit.  Made it to the Supreme Court.  The Supreme court made it go away.

You ain't gonna do ****, old man.  The voters will decide.  

Many of us are angry at inflation, the economy, the cost of groceries/gas/home energy/rent and mortgages.  THose things are more important than Roe.  I suggest you **** start working at the state level. 

That is where you make them pay you ignorant bastard.