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Sumela » 28 Apr 2024, 8:43 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Apr 2024, 8:43 pm

The Bible plainly teaches that man is evil, born in sin.

Regardless of race. Its very simple really.

In the dog eat dog world...people will do whatever it takes to survive.
Even if it means killing for that last piece of chiggen at the KFC Buffet...!

 

GHETTOBLASTER » 29 Apr 2024, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2024, 5:56 pm

In the dog eat dog world...people will do whatever it takes to survive.
Even if it means killing for that last piece of chiggen at the KFC Buffet...!

 
 

Deezer Shoove » 29 Apr 2024, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2024, 4:27 pm

No, you aren't. You're a plain and simple ***. A real ****.

Plain and simple self evident reproduction mutually evolving proportionately alive this rotation of the planet. ancestrally here same as any other replacement to its unique ancestral lineage being part of the whole food chain evolving as displaced in ever changing form arrive their individual fertilized cell in current generation gaps within the whole species and all its ancestral lineages here.

Go ahead and keep speculating anything else is possible as in real evolving there has never been a tomorrow any rotation of the planet since inception of each person's specific ancestral lineage in this unique universal position.

Self evident in the kinetic stream of adapting here now and my time is equal to 73 revolutions, 3 lunar phases, and a few rotations of this planet around the star since conceived my time has never duplicated my form once since a fertilized cell developed through stages of which lifetime I am proportionately here today.

Fertilized cell within 20 minutes became a zygote, into embryo, fetus, birth event, infant, toddler, adolescent, puberty, teenager, adult, 1 of 2 parents to another generation, became 1 of 4 grandparents 2 revolutions and 5 lunar phases ago.

I understand equal time evolving as liberty to understand how evolving actually eternally separates each and any reproduction native to this atmosphere as this planet exists in a perpetual balancing moment anything that exists is everything here never same form as arrived, existing same shape twice except event horizons measuring time each was adapting here now.

Reasonable doubt, social consensus, rule of law in each alternate reality, ancestrally practiced within same species. Self inflicted mayhem, madness, misery put upon anyone not complying to wishful thinking now isn't eternity.

Sumela » 28 Apr 2024, 8:43 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Apr 2024, 8:43 pm

The Bible plainly teaches that man is evil, born in sin.

Regardless of race. Its very simple really.

Who would have thought you were a Bible scholar?

31stArrival » 30 Apr 2024, 5:37 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 5:37 am

Plain and simple self evident reproduction mutually evolving proportionately alive this rotation of the planet. ancestrally here same as any other replacement to its unique ancestral lineage being part of the wholefood chain evolving as displaced in ever changing form arrive their individual fertilized cell in current generation gaps within the whole species and all its ancestral lineages here.

Go ahead and keep speculating anything else is possible as in real evolving there has never been a tomorrow any rotation of the planet since inception of each person's specific ancestral lineage in this unique universal position.

Self evident in the kinetic stream of adapting here now and my time is equal to 73 revolutions of this planet around the star since conceived.

Too **** up to say 73 years? Yeah, that's normal.

Now you get to focus on the word "normal".
You have been a burden for 73 years. Nice.

Deezer Shoove » 30 Apr 2024, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 5:46 am

Too **** up to say 73 years? Yeah, that's normal.

Now you get to focus on the word "normal".
You have been a burden for 73 years. Nice.

Brain navigates space, social mind interprets evolving in career character role playing cradle to grave, live evolves individually alive in series parallel time inhabiting space this rotation of the planet.

Look up thermodynamics principles again and results between subatomic material, atoms, molecular content in gaseous, liquid, mineral characteristics, magnetism, push pull, expanding details contracting into objects occupying space, electromagnetism balancing those objects apart in series parallel relative positions present universally here, time doesn't move, details never stay the same results again, series parallel proportionate results present.

Eternity is absolute zero, time each object lasts is here, constant changing total sum left forward is now. Specific gravity environment self evident positions are exactly past events current evolving, everything changing what is left each rotation of the planet perpetually balancing 3rd rock from the star past total sums, current events, next generations arriving each great great grandchild.

I own my time now, and I won my freedom from reasonable doubt tyranny of my own ancestry been corrupted since dawn of humanity training brains to mind power of suggestion or else be ridiculed by everyone, shunned by ancestry, exiled by community, executed for not complying to this species ignoring life never exceeds adapting as displaced this rotation of the planet.

the original sin within this species practiced throughout recorded history of human behaviors cradle to grave doing the same thing every generation gap to current events. Evil, insanity, or ignoring oneself by each generation gap serving ideas life isn't self evidently evolving as genetics eternally separates each reproduction here now.

RebelGator » 30 Apr 2024, 5:44 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 5:44 am

Who would have thought you were a Bible scholar?

Well yer a tranny - but that doesnt shock anyone  
 

Sumela » 30 Apr 2024, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 10:18 am

Well yer a tranny - but that doesnt shock anyone :wave:  
 

Intellectually typecasting everyone else is stereotypical behavior of persons per generation gaps corrupted after birth into performing current events assuring each next generation ancestors follow what you learned to believe true never accepting all you been since conceived.

Self evident reproduction limited to evolving forward adapting in space specifically you every rotation of the p-lanet you remain alive between leaving the womb until entering your tomb each rotation you inhabits space uniquely here never same shape formed since a fertilized cell living in series parallel time.

DeezerShoove » 26 Apr 2024, 7:20 am » wrote: ↑

26 Apr 2024, 7:20 am

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... cally-evil

Apparently as hunter-gathers, we humans had less to be evil about.
As the stakes grew higher, money and complexities of society draw our bad side out.

Humans...like any surviving organism that relies on cooperation to survive...simply operate under a friend/enemy distinction. Ants are totally self sacrificing for their own colony but they attack any ant from a different colony on sight 

The natural instinct of humans is similar but just less severe.

But in essence, we care less about evil being done to a rival tribe (hostis was the label in latin).

Individualist liberal philosophy has tried very much to obfuscate the fact that humans have tribal impulses at all...being philosophically incoherent if it accepts the existence of tribalism. We are supposed to believe that humanity is just one big tribe and the only conflict is between individuals.

But obviously stuff like blm riots or gerrymandering to avoid having too many black voters proves that this attitude is just naive.

GHETTO BLASTER » 29 Apr 2024, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2024, 5:56 pm

In the dog eat dog world...people will do whatever it takes to survive.
Even if it means killing for that last piece of chiggen at the KFC Buffet...!

 

You ever get tired of reciting the same mantra that corrupted your ancestry so far? the core of that corruption within this species this rotation of the planet all expands from one idea, believing genetics cannot be eternally separating each reproduction occupying space now.

Karma since chromosomes lead back to each brain of any ancestor was the nucleus of their fertilized cell to ancestries in every species native to this atmosphere this rotation and any next one intellectually defined on a calendar by the international dateline being half way between dusk to dawn now.

base of good and evil is = to chose. duality. stop choosing. a tree is a tree. not good not bad tree. just a tree. you are not good. you are not bad. just you. when you were a child. when did you being a you? society created good and evil laws. more laws. more evil people to lock away. more people who can not deal with how bad they are. more shrink doctors. are you more evil than good? if so. read zen Buddha scripts. and laugh at yourself.

GHETTOBLASTER » 29 Apr 2024, 5:56 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2024, 5:56 pm

In the dog eat dog world...people will do whatever it takes to survive.
Even if it means killing for that last piece of chiggen at the KFC Buffet...!

*Chiggen*   
 

walkingstick » 30 Apr 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 12:37 pm

base of good and evil is = to chose. duality. stop choosing. a tree is a tree. not good not bad tree. just a tree. you are not good. you are not bad. just you. when you were a child. when did you being a you? society created good and evil laws. more laws. more evil people to lock away. more people who can not deal with how bad they are. more shrink doctors. are you more evil than good? if so. read zen Buddha scripts. and laugh at yourself.

the hole in your whole analogy is you omitted personal behavior adapting uniquely alive each rotation of the planet a reproduction has adapting uniquely alive now, since evolving in series parallel result all balancing into a new total sum present, this or any other rotation of the planet forward now.

Perpetual motion creating eternal balancing between the universe physically here where evolving is the process dividing periodic elements combined to eroded and ancestral positions added inception to extinction each generation gap lived or alive this rotation.

31stArrival » 30 Apr 2024, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 1:00 pm

the hole in your whole analogy is you omitted personal behavior adapting uniquely alive each rotation of the planet a reproduction has adapting uniquely alive now, since evolving in series parallel result all balancing into a new total sum present, this or any other rotation of the planet forward now.

Perpetual motion creating eternal balancing between the universe physically here where evolving is the process dividing periodic elements combined to eroded and ancestral positions added inception to extinction each generation gap lived or alive this rotation.

many holes in my analogy. each unaware person is a hole.

walkingstick » 30 Apr 2024, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 1:38 pm

many holes in my analogy. each unaware person is a hole.

You lack a whole understanding about evolving limited to only adapting in space occupying time each rotation of the planet you stay alive now. past since conceived each until decomposed corpse becomes a fossil fuel.

FOS » 30 Apr 2024, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 12:18 pm

Humans...like any surviving organism that relies on cooperation to survive...simply operate under a friend/enemy distinction. Ants are totally self sacrificing for their own colony but they attack any ant from a different colony on sight 

The natural instinct of humans is similar but just less severe.

But in essence, we care less about evil being done to a rival tribe (hostis was the label in latin).

Individualist liberal philosophy has tried very much to obfuscate the fact that humans have tribal impulses at all...being philosophically incoherent if it accepts the existence of tribalism. We are supposed to believe that humanity is just one big tribe and the only conflict is between individuals.

But obviously stuff like blm riots or gerrymandering to avoid having too many black voters proves that this attitude is just naive.

You put me in mind of the U.N. speech Reagan delivered where he mentioned
"an alien threat from outside this world".
Strange, but he was right: A threat common to all parties diminishes whatever differences they have.

Conversely, no threats or reasons to unify, amplifies the differences.
Not saying that in itself creates enemies necessarily, but certainly an "us and them" atmosphere.

It's part of the social nature of humans.
Personal survival.
Protect your family.
Your neighborhood.
Your town.
Your state.
Your country.
Etc.

Your Give-A-**** meter reads differently as you go through the list.
That's the subjective nature of evil and non-evil.
A guy protecting his family can conflict with the guy protecting his.

And so it goes.
 

DeezerShoove » 30 Apr 2024, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 3:08 pm

You put me in mind of the U.N. speech Reagan delivered where he mentioned
"an alien threat from outside this world".
Strange, but he was right: A threat common to all parties diminishes whatever differences they have.

Conversely, no threats or reasons to unify, amplifies the differences.
Not saying that in itself creates enemies necessarily, but certainly an "us and them" atmosphere.

It's part of the social nature of humans.
Personal survival.
Protect your family.
Your neighborhood.
Your town.
Your state.
Your country.
Etc.

Your Give-A-**** meter reads differently as you go through the list.
That's the subjective nature of evil and non-evil.
A guy protecting his family can conflict with the guy protecting his.

And so it goes.

For sure, this is just an obvious strategy to resist a common enemy. But any competent enemy is also going to attempt to prevent any confederation. Thus the roman empire tried to divide the gauls against eachother when it was conquering the gauls, or the British empire tried to divide north American plains Indians against eachother as they conquered north America. If all the gauls had successfully united against Rome to resist them, they might have been more successful...but vercingetorix was ultimately too little too late. 

FOS » 30 Apr 2024, 6:03 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 6:03 pm

For sure, this is just an obvious strategy to resist a common enemy. But any competent enemy is also going to attempt to prevent any confederation. Thus the roman empire tried to divide the gauls against eachother when it was conquering the gauls, or the British empire tried to divide north American plains Indians against eachother as they conquered north America. If all the gauls had successfully united against Rome to resist them, they might have been more successful...but vercingetorix was ultimately too little too late.

Like we are very stupidly falling for right now.
The Information Age has been used against the common man.

DeezerShoove » 30 Apr 2024, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 6:10 pm

Like we are very stupidly falling for right now.
The Information Age has been used against the common man.

Well...it is a lot trickier than it should be because it is not obvious and there is no universal agreement on who exactly our enemy is. I certainly have my opinion but not everyone agrees with me.

FOS » 30 Apr 2024, 6:49 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2024, 6:49 pm

Well...it is a lot trickier than it should be because it is not obvious and there is no universal agreement on who exactly our enemy is. I certainly have my opinion but not everyone agrees with me.

Which is exactly how the puppet masters like it.   

Mirror in the Sky - Dav Garnett 
Spoiler: The combatants and the enemy are not the same.