GHETTOBLASTER » 22 May 2024, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑ You have no idea how cringeworthy you look...but neither did Deputy Barney Fife....![]()
Do you wear BRASS KNUCKLES AND AN EXECUTIONER'S HOOD while typing at your key board...?
All this superfluous **** to try to prove that 50 Senators voting Yea can pass a bill.maineman » 23 May 2024, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑ This, I feel, is the perfect post of yours for me to once again attempt to explain my position for you.
Imagine a balance sheet. There are ASSETS in one column and there are LIABILITIES in the other column
Cash is an asset
Bank Accounts are assets
they are two different numbers but they are both assets
Accounts payable is a liability
Loan balances are liabilities
they are two different numbers but they are both liabilities
At the bottom of the balance sheet, the numbers in the assets column are totaled up and the numbers in the liabilities column are totaled up
Now...
Senator Yea votes... let's call them assets
Senator Nay votes.... let's call them liabilities
Vice President Yea votes .... let's call them assets.
Like on any balance sheet, assets are totaled up and liabilities are totaled up.
Even in your link it says:
Vote Counts:
YEAs 50
NAYs 50
Vice President of the United States Voted YEA
It doesn't say he did something other than VOTE... It calls his actions the same thing it calls the actions of the senators
His one YEA VOTE is added to the 50 senator YEA VOTES and the measure then passes
WITH 51 YEA VOTES
If the 100 senators split 50-50, and the VP is not present, the measure fails.
If the 100 senators split 50-50 and the VP does NOT support the measure, he or she does nothing and the measure fails 50-50.
Fifty VOTES are not all that is needed to pass a bill in the senate when all senators are present and voting. You must have 51. It can be 51-49 or it can be 51-50 but no bill passes in the chamber when it's full of voting senators with less than 51 votes. Every time.
Can we please agree to agree on this issue and, as gentlemen, move on?
thank you.
That dishonest, dissembling sissy will NEVER give a straight answer, because he is irreparably bent.Warcok » 22 May 2024, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑ Why are you in denial about this? The cat's out the bag. All his children are **** up. you got his son abandoning his laptop and his daughter abandoning her diary.
It's their belongings, it's their words, thoughts, pictures and even the moniker for Daddy - Pedo Peter.
Now I asked you again, imagine if that was Ivanka Trump's diary. would you be defending her the same way you're defending Ashley?
Or would you be posting all over the Internets how Trump raped his daughter in the shower?
Answer truthfully let's see how much of a honest honorable Navy vet you really are
Cannonpointer » 23 May 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑![]()
**** beekeeper - a reagan era maroon who is stuck in the cold war...
Cannonpointer » 23 May 2024, 3:44 pm » wrote: ↑ You stupid old woman, he was responding to maineman. Maineman tagged you. And you went off like the tard your mama raised.![]()
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Yes yes, fruitcake - the Snopes Monkey Trial assured you that she never said what she said. And the border is secure, inflation is low, your manhood is intact, and women quite often have penises. A trace gas is destroying the climate, men BELONG in your daughter's sex-segregated spaces, 2020 was the cleanest election in history, and the vaccine is not only effective but remarkably safe.maineman » 22 May 2024, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Pedo Peter is fake news
Ashey claiming that she waited until late at night to shower for fear her father would join her being on page 67 and 68 of her diary is fake news.
And in answer to your question: I would not defend her because I think she and her husband are both **** grifters, but what I would ALSO NOT do is make up **** that WASN'T actually in her diary and spread it around like you assholes have done
Beekeeper » 23 May 2024, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑ Still sucking BLACK COCK that everyone can see!!
Run along Jr. you're playing in an ant hill that will get you eaten alive.
You stupid old woman, he was responding to maineman. Maineman tagged you. And you went off like the tard your mama raised.![]()
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what does he use to break the tie? a hammer?Beekeeper » 23 May 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑ All this superfluous **** to try to prove that 50 Senators voting Yea can pass a bill.
How long will it take before you understand that a VP can ONLY cast a tiebreaker, and has NO VOTE and isn't called on without 50 Senators voting Yea and 50 Nay???
See, it's just that simple.
For SOME of us, ****.Beekeeper » 23 May 2024, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑THAT ended under GHW Bush,Cannonpointer » 23 May 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑![]()
**** beekeeper - a reagan era maroon who is stuck in the cold war...
How Are Laws Made? Laws begin as ideas. First, a representative sponsors a bill. The bill is then assigned to a committee for study. If released by the committee, the bill is put on a calendar to be voted on, debated or amended. If the bill passes by simple majority (218 of 435), the bill moves to the Senate. In the Senate, the bill is assigned to another committee and, if released, debated and voted on. Again, a simple majority (51 of 100) passes the bill. Finally, a conference committee made of House and Senate members works out any differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill. The resulting bill returns to the House and Senate for final approval. The Government Publishing Office prints the revised bill in a process called enrolling. The President has 10 days to sign or veto the enrolled bill.maineman » 23 May 2024, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑what does he use to break the tie? a hammer?Beekeeper » 23 May 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑ All this superfluous **** to try to prove that 50 Senators voting Yea can pass a bill.
How long will it take before you understand that a VP can ONLY cast a tiebreaker, and has NO VOTE and isn't called on without 50 Senators voting Yea and 50 Nay???
See, it's just that simple.
and 50 senators voting yes CANNOT pass a bill without that special something that only the VP can give them.
If he or she isn't there, or if he or she doesn't support the bill,50 senators cannot pass a bill.
It's just THAT simple.
Beekeeper » 23 May 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑ All this superfluous **** to try to prove that 50 Senators voting Yea can pass a bill.
How long will it take before you understand that a VP can ONLY cast a tiebreaker, and has NO VOTE and isn't called on without 50 Senators voting Yea and 50 Nay???
See, it's just that simple.
Cannonpointer » 23 May 2024, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑ How Are Laws Made? Laws begin as ideas. First, a representative sponsors a bill. The bill is then assigned to a committee for study. If released by the committee, the bill is put on a calendar to be voted on, debated or amended. If the bill passes by simple majority (218 of 435), the bill moves to the Senate. In the Senate, the bill is assigned to another committee and, if released, debated and voted on. Again, a simple majority (51 of 100) passes the bill. Finally, a conference committee made of House and Senate members works out any differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill. The resulting bill returns to the House and Senate for final approval. The Government Publishing Office prints the revised bill in a process called enrolling. The President has 10 days to sign or veto the enrolled bill.
maineman » 23 May 2024, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑ and just to correct one more point.
The VP can be called upon to break any tie from 26-26 to 50-50
the senate can enact any rule they want each session they want to change precedence. Schummer played that out several times.McConnel did it several times.
I think he means well......Cannonpointer » 23 May 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑![]()
**** beekeeper - a reagan era maroon who is stuck in the cold war...
Where the HELL did you come up with that?Warcok » 22 May 2024, 7:56 pm » wrote: ↑ Groomer Pyle is right. You need 51 votes in the Senate to pass a bill. They call for quorum and if not all 100 senators are present they stable the vote.
If there is a missing senator or four and they're in town, the Sergeant of Arms goes and gets them.
No one is a mind reader here, *******. If you "presumed" something and simply said it wrong, that's on you.maineman » 22 May 2024, 7:51 pm » wrote: ↑ wrong. if you could prove that you would.
My statement presumed a full chamber, when it became clear you wanted to weasel around it, I added the clarification to remove the ambiguity, and, after I did, you chimed in and said your now infamous, and unretracted "Yes *******" dick stomping sentence.
golfboy » 23 May 2024, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑ No one is a mind reader here, *******. If you "presumed" something and simply said it wrong, that's on you.
The fact is your statement was that 51 votes were ALWAYS needed for a bill to pass the Senate.
That was a lie then, and it's a lie now.
Yes you did. But you're a liar, so no one expects you to admit the truth now.