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GHETTOBLASTER » 21 May 2024, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:25 am

For once in your life..... stick to the truth       

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics ... index.html
"Carroll filed the lawsuit last November under the “New York State Adult Survivors Act,” a state bill which opened a look-back window for sexual assault allegations like Carroll’s with long-expired statutes of limitation.This is not a criminal trial.
In a civil suit like Carroll’s, the jury had to determine whether Carroll’s legal team proved that Trump committed battery against Carroll by a preponderance of the evidence.While the jury found that Trump sexually abused her, sufficient to hold him liable for battery, the jury did not find that Carroll proved he raped her."

This is why you are a moron, Ghetto.


 

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:31 am

This is why you're a moron.

It is no longer "alleged", it is established under the standard of evidence required for a civil judgment.

Until challenged under a higher standard, it is a fact.

Sorry, it was a civil trial where the burden of proof is much lower.  

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:38 am

This is why you are a moron, Ghetto.

For once in your life..... stick to the truth        

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics ... index.html
"Carroll filed the lawsuit last November under the “New York State Adult Survivors Act,” a state bill which opened a look-back window for sexual assault allegations like Carroll’s with long-expired statutes of limitation.This is not a criminal trial.
In a civil suit like Carroll’s, the jury had to determine whether Carroll’s legal team proved that Trump committed battery against Carroll by a preponderance of the evidence.While the jury found that Trump sexually abused her, sufficient to hold him liable for battery, the jury did not find that Carroll proved he raped her."

Huey » 21 May 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:42 am

Sorry, it was a civil trial where the burden of proof is much lower.

That doesn't make it "alleged", Quimmie...

GHETTOBLASTER » 21 May 2024, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:45 am

For once in your life..... stick to the truth        

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics ... index.html
"Carroll filed the lawsuit last November under the “New York State Adult Survivors Act,” a state bill which opened a look-back window for sexual assault allegations like Carroll’s with long-expired statutes of limitation.This is not a criminal trial.
In a civil suit like Carroll’s, the jury had to determine whether Carroll’s legal team proved that Trump committed battery against Carroll by a preponderance of the evidence.While the jury found that Trump sexually abused her, sufficient to hold him liable for battery, the jury did not find that Carroll proved he raped her."

This is way over your head..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

 He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
 

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:45 am

That doesn't make it "alleged", Quimmie...

He wasn't convicted in a criminal court.  But in a real criminal court you support a convicted lawyer, fraudster, con man and admitted thief has an an axe to grind with Trump.  Not to mention a sexworker who owes Trump's attorney's over $600,000.

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:48 am

This is way over your head..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

 He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

There was no evidence of rape and no witnesses either.
Stop lying.
 

Huey » 21 May 2024, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:50 am

He wasn't convicted in a criminal court.  But in a real criminal court you support a convicted lawyer, fraudster, con man and admitted thief has an an axe to grind with Trump.  Not to mention a sexworker who owes Trump's attorney's over $600,000.

Quimmie,

It doesn't matter that you can't be made to understand that it establishes the fact.


 

GHETTOBLASTER » 21 May 2024, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:56 am

There was no evidence of rape and no witnesses either.
Stop lying.

95 million dollars says "Ghetto is a **** moron!"

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:57 am

Quimmie,

It doesn't matter that you can't be made to understand that it establishes the fact.

I am establishing facts.

This threads heating up faster than Hunters spoon

Huey » 21 May 2024, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 12:02 pm

I am establishing facts.

No...you are desperately diverting from them.

And you don't even understand them.

It is no longer "alleged".

You were wrong.
 

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 12:07 pm

No...you are desperately diverting from them.

And you don't even understand them.

It is no longer "alleged".

You were wrong.

Not at all.  This is a fact
He wasn't convicted in a criminal court.

This is a fact:
Sorry, it was a civil trial where the burden of proof is much lower.

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:59 am

95 million dollars says "Ghetto is a **** moron!"

Nice award considering it was handed out with zero evidence.
So there was not one single person who witnessed Trump dragging a terrified Carroll, [kicking and screaming] into a busy downtown department store dressing room...?
Walk us through that scenario.
All eyes would have been on VIPs like Trump and some on Carroll

ROG62 » 21 May 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 11:17 am

I'm sure Donny was pulling a Bloomberg by standing on a box for that photo op...

I read that on that Vanity Fair Society page too.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 7:16 am

Fraud? Check.

Rape? Check.

80 some odd to go.

All that and he's still leading the daughter **** in the polls   



 

GHETTOBLASTER » 21 May 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 12:09 pm

Nice award considering it was handed out with zero evidence.
So there was not one single person who witnessed Trump dragging a terrified Carroll, [kicking and screaming] into a busy downtown department store dressing room...?
Walk us through that scenario.
All eyes would have been on VIPs like Trump and some on Carroll

The fact is that the jury considered all the evidence presented and arrived at their conclusion.

Grifty didn't testify, and his expert witness had a tee time conflict.

*rippy38 » 21 May 2024, 12:15 pm » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 12:15 pm

I read that on that Vanity Fair Society page too.

Try something more than pouting....

Insist that Grifty wouldn't have known about it...

C'mon....cause I'm gonna disembowel you...
 

Blackvegetable » 21 May 2024, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 12:16 pm

The fact is that the jury considered all the evidence presented and arrived at their conclusion.

Grifty didn't testify, and his expert witness had a tee time conflict.

Nice award considering it was handed out with zero evidence.
So there was not one single person who witnessed Trump dragging a terrified Carroll, [kicking and screaming] into a busy downtown department store dressing room...?
Walk us through that scenario.
All eyes would have been on VIPs like Trump and some on Carroll

GHETTOBLASTER » 21 May 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

21 May 2024, 12:19 pm

Nice award considering it was handed out with zero evidence.
So there was not one single person who witnessed Trump dragging a terrified Carroll, [kicking and screaming] into a busy downtown department store dressing room...?
Walk us through that scenario.
All eyes would have been on VIPs like Trump and some on Carroll

No...there WAS evidence presented...sufficient to convince the jury.