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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 7:48 am » wrote: ↑ so you really can't read?

So, ASSHOLE, YOU can't answer!!

WHAT IS THE UNDERLYING CRIME THAT PREDICATED A FELONY CHARGE?? ONE THAT WAS PROVEN IN COURT!!!
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maineman » 01 Jun 2024, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑ He tried to stop the constitutionally mandated peaceful transfer of power.  That's treason in my book.
And exactly how did Trump do that by urging the crowd of protesters to march PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY TO THE CAPITOL, huh nitwit?

Is THAT what you do when you're trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power?
Do you also offer 10,000 additional security guards to the DC mayor and the Speaker of the House who were in charge like Trump did days before the legal demonstration received a permit?
Or do you do something like, oh I don't know, maybe REFUSE TO ALLOW THAT SECURITY TO YOUR CITY LIKE PELOSI AND BOWSER DID?

If you're determined to prove to everyone how dumb and gullible you are to believe the Democrat lying scumbags who had a Pelosi camera crew inside ready and waiting to film the riot they wanted to happen, and have inserted FBI plants into the crowd like Ray Epps who used a bullhorn to instigate the crowd saying, "WE NEED TO GO INTO THE CAPITOL, INTO THE CAPITOL", and strangely enough not jail HIM for instigating a riot, it tells me you prefer to swallow the lies you know you've been told rather than accept the reality that Trump NEVER did what you stupidly try to claim!

Any wonder why you're perceived to be a lying and ignorant scumbag around here?
It should come as no surprise! 
 
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Beekeeper » 02 Jun 2024, 7:48 am » wrote: ↑ Come on DOWN, **** MAN!!

See how good you can dance!!

you really do sound big and tough and mean... meaner than most internet thugs I've run into.  wow. ;)  
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Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑ And exactly how did Trump do that by urging the crowd of protesters to march PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY TO THE CAPITOL, huh nitwit?

Is THAT what you do when you're trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power?
Do you also offer 10,000 additional security guards to the DC mayor and the Speaker of the House who were in charge like Trump did days before the legal demonstration received a permit?
Or do you do something like, oh I don't know, maybe REFUSE TO ALLOW THAT SECURITY TO YOUR CITY LIKE PELOSI AND BOWSER DID?

If you're determined to prove to everyone how dumb and gullible you are to believe the Democrat lying scumbags who had a Pelosi camera crew inside ready and waiting to film the riot they wanted to happen, and have inserted FBI plants into the crowd like Ray Epps who used a bullhorn to instigate the crowd saying, "WE NEED TO GO INTO THE CAPITOL, INTO THE CAPITOL", and strangely enough not jail HIM for instigating a riot, it tells me you prefer to swallow the lies you know you've been told rather than accept the reality that Trump NEVER did what you stupidly try to claim!

Any wonder why you're perceived to be a lying and ignorant scumbag around here?
It should come as no surprise!
Admiral Hornblower owned again.....  :die:  
 
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maineman » 01 Jun 2024, 11:40 am » wrote: ↑ what I have "got" is tired and bored reading your loony-tunes RWNJ MAGA drone ****.  Judges don't have to refrain from participating in the political process and are not forbidden from being a democrat or a republican. What is forbidden is when they allow their political affiliation to interfere with their duty to be evenhanded in their judicial duties.  And he didn't refuse to allow any witness to testify.  He simply limited the scope of what the expert witness was allowed to testify about to include only those matters in which he was an expert.

I do truly love this country and it is my sincere belief that Donald Trump is a treasonous wannabe dictator who should be hung for what he did on January 6th.  The mere idea that he is the presumptive nominee of a once grand old party is mind-boggling to me
OTHER than the FACT that in NY STATE that JUDGES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE POLITICAL DONATIONS, what ELSE do you have??

(A) Incumbent judges and others running for public election to judicial office.

(1) Neither a sitting judge nor a candidate for public election to judicial office shall directly or indirectly engage in any political activity except (i) as otherwise authorized by this section or by law, (ii) to vote and to identify himself or herself as a member of a political party, and (iii) on behalf of measures to improve the law, the legal system or the administration of justice. Prohibited political activity shall include:
(a) acting as a leader or holding an office in a political organization;
(b) except as provided in paragraph (3) of this subdivision, being a member of a political organization other than enrollment and membership in a political party;
(c) engaging in any partisan political activity, provided that nothing in this section shall prohibit a judge or candidate from participating in his or her own campaign for elective judicial office or shall restrict a non-judge holder of public office in the exercise of the functions of that office;
(d) participating in any political campaign for any office or permitting his or her name to be used in connection with any activity of a political organization;
(e) publicly endorsing or publicly opposing (other than by running against) another candidate for public office;
(f) making speeches on behalf of a political organization or another candidate;
(g) attending political gatherings;
(h) soliciting funds for, paying an assessment to, or making a contribution to a political organization or candidate; or
(i) purchasing tickets for politically sponsored dinners or other functions, including any such function for a non-political purpose.

View Document - New York Codes, Rules and Regulations (westlaw.com)

So, ****, how's this ASSKICKING FEEL NOW???

 
 
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Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑ And exactly how did Trump do that by urging the crowd of protesters to march PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY TO THE CAPITOL, huh nitwit?

Is THAT what you do when you're trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power?
Do you also offer 10,000 additional security guards to the DC mayor and the Speaker of the House who were in charge like Trump did days before the legal demonstration received a permit?
Or do you do something like, oh I don't know, maybe REFUSE TO ALLOW THAT SECURITY TO YOUR CITY LIKE PELOSI AND BOWSER DID?

If you're determined to prove to everyone how dumb and gullible you are to believe the Democrat lying scumbags who had a Pelosi camera crew inside ready and waiting to film the riot they wanted to happen, and have inserted FBI plants into the crowd like Ray Epps who used a bullhorn to instigate the crowd saying, "WE NEED TO GO INTO THE CAPITOL, INTO THE CAPITOL", and strangely enough not jail HIM for instigating a riot, it tells me you prefer to swallow the lies you know you've been told rather than accept the reality that Trump NEVER did what you stupidly try to claim!

Any wonder why you're perceived to be a lying and ignorant scumbag around here?
It should come as no surprise!

What ****.  If you listened to his entire rant from the ellipse and the rants of all the others there, you could not write that first sentence with a straight face.  Tell me again, what was the "right thing" he wanted Mike Pence to do that day?
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Beekeeper » 02 Jun 2024, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑ OTHER than the FACT that in NY STATE that JUDGES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE POLITICAL DONATIONS, what ELSE do you have??

(A) Incumbent judges and others running for public election to judicial office.

(1) Neither a sitting judge nor a candidate for public election to judicial office shall directly or indirectly engage in any political activity except (i) as otherwise authorized by this section or by law, (ii) to vote and to identify himself or herself as a member of a political party, and (iii) on behalf of measures to improve the law, the legal system or the administration of justice. Prohibited political activity shall include:
(a) acting as a leader or holding an office in a political organization;
(b) except as provided in paragraph (3) of this subdivision, being a member of a political organization other than enrollment and membership in a political party;
(c) engaging in any partisan political activity, provided that nothing in this section shall prohibit a judge or candidate from participating in his or her own campaign for elective judicial office or shall restrict a non-judge holder of public office in the exercise of the functions of that office;
(d) participating in any political campaign for any office or permitting his or her name to be used in connection with any activity of a political organization;
(e) publicly endorsing or publicly opposing (other than by running against) another candidate for public office;
(f) making speeches on behalf of a political organization or another candidate;
(g) attending political gatherings;
(h) soliciting funds for, paying an assessment to, or making a contribution to a political organization or candidate; or
(i) purchasing tickets for politically sponsored dinners or other functions, including any such function for a non-political purpose.

View Document - New York Codes, Rules and Regulations (westlaw.com)

So, ****, how's this ASSKICKING FEEL NOW???

35 dollars.  bfd :rofl:  
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RebelGator » 02 Jun 2024, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑ Admiral Hornblower owned again.....  Image

is that really all you're good for, Cletis... nipping at ankles from the peanut gallery?

you're a **** lightweight. :clap:  
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Beekeeper » 02 Jun 2024, 8:09 am » wrote: ↑ So, ASSHOLE, YOU can't answer!!

WHAT IS THE UNDERLYING CRIME THAT PREDICATED A FELONY CHARGE?? ONE THAT WAS PROVEN IN COURT!!!

Where does the NY law say that the underlying crime has to be "proven in court?"
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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:21 am » wrote: ↑ 35 dollars.  bfd Image

IS THAT AGAINST THE NY STATE LAW???

Then it's a **** CRIME, ASSHOLE!!! It's a BIG ENOUGH **** DEAL that the STATE OF NY PROHIBITS IT BY LAW!!

See, you have that DOUBLE STANDARD JUDICIAL MENTALITY!! One set of laws for me, one set for thee, based on whatever outcome YOU CAN GET YOU LIKE!!

GO **** YOURSELF AND TAKE THIS DOUBLE *** KICKING AND **** YOURSELF!! CHICKEN **** COWARD!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:22 am » wrote: ↑ is that really all you're good for, Cletis... nipping at ankles from the peanut gallery?

you're a **** lightweight. Image
Hypocrisy becomes you...... :loco:
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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ Where does the NY law say that the underlying crime has to be "proven in court?"

Unless you have an ALLEGED CRIME proven IN COURT, you have NO CRIME, *******!!

THAT is the FOUNDATION OF THE UNITED STATES JUDICIAL SYSTEM!!

So you would AGREE that we can ALLEGE that you MURDERED SOMEONE and that alone is enough to CONVICT YOU OF A CRIME!!

Oops!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ Where does the NY law say that the underlying crime has to be "proven in court?"

So that "INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY" is meaningless in a NY State court of law, huh???

BECAUSE that is PRECISELY WHAT YOU JUST CLAIMED!! UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROVEN CRIME, BY A COURT OF LAW, YOU HAVE NO CRIME!!!!

PERIOD!! THAT is the foundation of our justice system, ASSHOLE!!!

 
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke

The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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Beekeeper » 02 Jun 2024, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ IS THAT AGAINST THE NY STATE LAW???

Then it's a **** CRIME, ASSHOLE!!! It's a BIG ENOUGH **** DEAL that the STATE OF NY PROHIBITS IT BY LAW!!

See, you have that DOUBLE STANDARD JUDICIAL MENTALITY!! One set of laws for me, one set for thee, based on whatever outcome YOU CAN GET YOU LIKE!!

GO **** YOURSELF AND TAKE THIS DOUBLE *** KICKING AND **** YOURSELF!! CHICKEN **** COWARD!!

^^^^ triggered.

Calm down Doctor Bees.... you're gonna blow a gasket. :rofl:  
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Beekeeper » 02 Jun 2024, 8:39 am » wrote: ↑ So that "INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY" is meaningless in a NY State court of law, huh???

BECAUSE that is PRECISELY WHAT YOU JUST CLAIMED!! UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROVEN CRIME, BY A COURT OF LAW, YOU HAVE NO CRIME!!!!

PERIOD!! THAT is the foundation of our justice system, ASSHOLE!!!

like I said yesterday, stick to melittology, Doctor Bees, the law is not your forte. :rofl:  
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Beekeeper » 02 Jun 2024, 8:39 am » wrote: ↑ So that "INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY" is meaningless in a NY State court of law, huh???

BECAUSE that is PRECISELY WHAT YOU JUST CLAIMED!! UNLESS YOU HAVE A PROVEN CRIME, BY A COURT OF LAW, YOU HAVE NO CRIME!!!!

PERIOD!! THAT is the foundation of our justice system, ASSHOLE!!!

While all the jurors must agree on the first and second crimes—that Trump falsified business records in order to cover up the election crime—for him to be convicted, they can differ on the third crime, or the “unlawful means” to influence an election. Some jurors could think campaign finance laws were broken and others could think there were tax violations, for instance.
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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑ ^^^^ triggered.

Calm down Doctor Bees.... you're gonna blow a gasket. Image

No, **** NAZI, I KICKED YOUR *** MASSIVELY AND NOT JUST ON THIS CLAIM OF YOURS, BUT THAT ONE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CRIME PROVEN TO CONVICT SOMEONE!!

Its must really SUCK that NAZI SCUM LIKE YOU GET EXPOSED FOR THE UTTER STUPID YOU POSSESS, huh??

GO **** YOURSELF. YOU GOT PWNED AGAIN BY ME AND ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASSION TODAY ALONE!!

:rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑ What ****.  If you listened to his entire rant from the ellipse and the rants of all the others there, you could not write that first sentence with a straight face.  Tell me again, what was the "right thing" he wanted Mike Pence to do that day?
He wanted Pence to use his Constitutionally protected right to question the accuracy of the vote in several key states where we now have proof that the totals were fraudulently increased to favor Biden.

So how does that correlate to your idiotic and partisan belief that his words were treasonous?
 
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maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑ While all the jurors must agree on the first and second crimes—that Trump falsified business records in order to cover up the election crime—for him to be convicted, they can differ on the third crime, or the “unlawful means” to influence an election. Some jurors could think campaign finance laws were broken and others could think there were tax violations, for instance.
AND THAT violates the Unanimity REQUIREMENT AS SET FORTH IN SEVERAL SCOTUS CASES, ASSHOLE!!

 Court held for the first time, in Ramos v. Louisiana, that the Sixth Amendment unanimity requirement applies by incorporation via the Fourteenth Amendment.3

Id. at 6 ( “As early as 1898, the Court said that a defendant enjoys a ‘constitutional right to demand that his liberty should not be taken from him except by the joint action of the court and the unanimous verdict of a jury of twelve persons.’” ) (quoting Thompson v. Utah, 170 U.S. 343, 351 (1898)); Andres v. United States, 333 U.S. 740, 748 (1948) ( “Unanimity in jury verdicts is required where the Sixth and Seventh Amendments apply. In criminal cases this requirement of unanimity extends to all issues—character or degree of the crime, guilt and punishment—which are left to the jury.” ); Maxwell v. Dow, 176 U.S. 581, 586 (1900) (stating that the right to jury trial “implies that there shall be an unanimous verdict of twelve jurors in all Federal courts where a jury trial is held” ); see also Johnson v. Louisiana, 406 U.S. 366, 369–70 (1972) (Powell, J., concurring) (citing “an unbroken line of cases reaching back into the late 1800’s [in which] the Justices of this Court have recognized, virtually without dissent, that unanimity is one of the indispensable features of federal jury trial” ). 

 
 
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RebelGator » 02 Jun 2024, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑ Admiral Hornblower owned again.....  Image
Only idiots like him can't figure out why Democrats, who have used every dirty trick in the book against Trump, wouldn't have also charged him with treason if they thought they wouldn't look as stupid as MM does trying to make that moronic claim!
 
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