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maineman » 01 Jun 2024, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Jun 2024, 12:22 pm

He tried to stop the constitutionally mandated peaceful transfer of power.  That's treason in my book.

So why wasn't he charged with that, when Democrats have been creating new accusations for Trump virtually every month for the past 8 years, huh nitwit?

Your "book" can likely be found on a rack with the rest of your Archie comics!
 

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 8:56 am

He wanted Pence to use his Constitutionally protected right to question the accuracy of the vote in several key states where we now have proof that the totals were fraudulently increased to favor Biden.

So how does that correlate to your idiotic and partisan belief that his words were treasonous?

we now have PROOF?

hahahaahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahaahaahahaha

 

Stephen Gillers, a legal ethics professor at New York University, said that New York, like most US jurisdictions, has adopted language from the American Bar Association Model Code of Judicial Conduct, which prohibits judges from “soliciting funds for, paying an assessment to, or making a contribution to a political organization or candidate.”

“The contribution to Biden and possibly the one to ‘Stop Republicans’ would be forbidden unless there is some other explanation that would allow them,” Gillers said.

But Gillers said that the donation “would be viewed as trivial, especially given the small sums.” He said if a complaint was made, the state’s Commission on Judicial Conduct would remind the judge of the rules.

Asked if this could be grounds for a legal challenge or recusal, Gillers said, “Absolutely not. This does not come anywhere near the kind of proof required for recusal.”

 
 

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 9:07 am

So why wasn't he charged with that, when Democrats have been creating new accusations for Trump virtually every month for the past 8 years, huh nitwit?

Your "book" can likely be found on a rack with the rest of your Archie comics!

Why are you asking ME that question?  Do you think that I have any say as to what charges are brought?  If I had been in Schiff's place, I would have charged him with treason in a New York minute, and if I had been Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell, I would have directed the Capitol Police to fire one warning shot and then shoot to kill anyone who breached the barricade.

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 8:56 am

He wanted Pence to use his Constitutionally protected right to question the accuracy of the vote in several key states where we now have proof that the totals were fraudulently increased to favor Biden.

So how does that correlate to your idiotic and partisan belief that his words were treasonous?

I don't think the Vice President has any right to alter the written procedures of the constitutionally mandated certification of the Electoral College.

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 9:24 am

I don't think the Vice President has any right to alter the written procedures of the constitutionally mandated certification of the Electoral College.

Then why even bother staging a meaningless ceremony...?
The certification is a procedural event that was designed  to validate the election results .
If the VP doesn't have the authority to halt / delay  the certification due to what appears to be election fraud..then let's just have people like Eric Coomer and Ruby Freeman be the ones to decide who our next President will be.
 
 
 

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 9:22 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 9:22 am

Why are you asking ME that question?  Do you think that I have any say as to what charges are brought?  If I had been in Schiff's place, I would have charged him with treason in a New York minute, and if I had been Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell, I would have directed the Capitol Police to fire one warning shot and then shoot to kill anyone who breached the barricade.

Very simple, fool!
It's because you're too dumb to realize that if there was even a shred of proof to substantiate your idiotic claim, THEY WOULD HAVE, just as they created every other phony "crime" to first impeach and then indict Trump!  Obviously, those Democrats making their claims are much smarter than you and recognized how foolish they'd look if they even attempted to claim that Trump committed treason.

And just as obviously, they care more about appearing so ignorant than you do!
 

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 10:24 am

Very simple, fool!
It's because you're too dumb to realize that if there was even a shred of proof to substantiate your idiotic claim, THEY WOULD HAVE, just as they created every other phony "crime" to first impeach and then indict Trump!  Obviously, those Democrats making their claims are much smarter than you and recognized how foolish they'd look if they even attempted to claim that Trump committed treason.

And just as obviously, they care more about appearing so ignorant than you do!

****.  They knew that impeaching him for treason would NEVER make it through the Senate.  So did I. 

 

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 10:34 am

****.  They knew that impeaching him for treason would NEVER make it through the Senate.  So did I.

**** you, you chinese cocksucker

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 9:24 am

I don't think the Vice President has any right to alter the written procedures of the constitutionally mandated certification of the Electoral College.

Your girl, Pelosi nipped any constitutional inquiry that day, and the righteous indignation came down on you thieves like rain from heaven. It's over when we say it's over, and not before....got it?
 

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 9:16 am

we now have PROOF?

hahahaahahaahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahaahaahahaha

Yeah dickhead, PROOF!!!
Not that you'd ever let the FACTS get in the way of forming a nonsensical opinion for yourself:

A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States 1,513Proven instances of voter fraud

Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
1,284Criminal convictions
58Civil penalties
123Diversion program
26Judicial finding
22Official finding

 

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 11:06 am

Yeah dickhead, PROOF!!!
Not that you'd ever let the FACTS get in the way of forming a nonsensical opinion for yourself:

The provenance of your red meme is non-existent.

the Heritage Foundation link is HUGE....  1,513 fraudulent votes!!!!  NATIONWIDE!!!!  Now THAT is some widespread systematic voter fraud if I ever saw it!    

One thing we can now say for certain:

Donald J Trump is a man of conviction.

34 of 'em!!!                     
 

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 10:34 am

****.  They knew that impeaching him for treason would NEVER make it through the Senate.  So did I.

Oh, and how many OTHER CHARGES against Trump made it through the Senate, nitwit?

The answer is ZERO!
I needed to answer the question because we all know you've NEVER shown you have the balls to admit anything positive in Trump's record!
 

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 11:41 am

Oh, and how many OTHER CHARGES against Trump made it through the Senate, nitwit?

The answer is ZERO!
I needed to answer the question because we all know you've NEVER shown you have the balls to admit anything positive in Trump's record!

none.  but 57 senators voted to convict him of incitement of insurrection.... and nine of them weren't democrats!

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 11:47 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 11:47 am

none.  but 57 senators voted to convict him of incitement of insurrection.... and nine of them weren't democrats!

And he was acquitted of those charges, wasn't he you idiot!
So how would the vote had been any different if he was ALSO charged with treason, as ignorant cretins like you believe? 
 

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 11:51 am

And he was acquitted of those charges, wasn't he you idiot!
So how would the vote had been any different if he was ALSO charged with treason, as ignorant cretins like you believe?

I would not think as many non-Democrats would have voted to convict on Treason.
I don't think the exact term is "acquitted," but he certainly was not convicted.  
And I put that squarely on Mitch's shoulders.  He could have forever cleansed our political landscape if he had urged nine more of his colleagues to join him in voting to convict instead of weaseling away from it.

"After Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell acknowledged Biden's victory on December 15, Trump did not speak to McConnell for the remaining month of his presidency.[104] McConnell reportedly believed that Trump had committed impeachable crimes; on Trump's last full day in office, McConnell said that "the mob was fed lies" and that "they were provoked by the president."[105] While McConnell was also said to believe that an impeachment proceeding would make it easier for Republicans to purge Trump's influence from the party,[106] he nevertheless told fellow senators on January 13 that he had not yet decided whether he would vote to convict Trump and that he would listen to the arguments during the trial.[107] Furthermore, McConnell was unwilling to convene the Senate early to hold the trial,[108] entailing that Trump finished his presidential term."

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 11:20 am

The provenance of your red meme is non-existent.

the Heritage Foundation link is HUGE....  1,513 fraudulent votes!!!!  NATIONWIDE!!!!  Now THAT is some widespread systematic voter fraud if I ever saw it!  

@Zeets2  ?    

maineman » 02 Jun 2024, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 12:06 pm

I would not think as many non-Democrats would have voted to convict on Treason.
I don't think the exact term is "acquitted," but he certainly was not convicted.  
And I put that squarely on Mitch's shoulders.  He could have forever cleansed our political landscape if he had urged nine more of his colleagues to join him in voting to convict instead of weaseling away from it.

"After Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell acknowledged Biden's victory on December 15, Trump did not speak to McConnell for the remaining month of his presidency.[104] McConnell reportedly believed that Trump had committed impeachable crimes; on Trump's last full day in office, McConnell said that "the mob was fed lies" and that "they were provoked by the president."[105] While McConnell was also said to believe that an impeachment proceeding would make it easier for Republicans to purge Trump's influence from the party,[106] he nevertheless told fellow senators on January 13 that he had not yet decided whether he would vote to convict Trump and that he would listen to the arguments during the trial.[107] Furthermore, McConnell was unwilling to convene the Senate early to hold the trial,[108] entailing that Trump finished his presidential term."

Yeah.  Not as many would have voted to convict for treason, just as not enough of them voted for any of the other phony charges.
But as long as they have idiots like YOU to believe their ****, it doesn't matter, does it?

Gee, you don't mean that there are some Republican senators who hate Trump, do you?  Who would have thunk it?

Of course, when the corrupt Mayorkis was impeached, Democrats didn't have the balls to even allow a trial for his continuing crimes, did they?
So instead, we'll just continue to welcome in thousands of illegals every day, and that's just peachy with you, isn't it?
How do you equate that, fool?

Zeets2 » 02 Jun 2024, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2024, 12:16 pm

Yeah.  Not as many would have voted to convict for treason, just as not enough of them voted for any of the other phony charges.
But as long as they have idiots like YOU to believe their ****, it doesn't matter, does it?

Gee, you don't mean that there are some Republican senators who hate Trump, do you?  Who would have thunk it?

Of course, when the corrupt Mayorkis was impeached, Democrats didn't have the balls to even allow a trial for his continuing crimes, did they?
So instead, we'll just continue to welcome in thousands of illegals every day, and that's just peachy with you, isn't it?
How do you equate that, fool?

I have no idea if there are Republican senators who hate Trump.  I do know that there are some Republican senators who thought the House Floor managers presented enough convincing evidence that Trump had indeed incited insurrection to vote to convict him of that specific offense.