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*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:17 am

NYC has more population density and while people get shot they aren't gettimg 71 in a weekend.

your point?

I would wager that more people get shot in NYC than in New Hampshire

Sumela » 18 Jun 2024, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:44 am

Neil Young's kind of throat whore

**** that asshole... He is still searching.

DeezerShoove » 18 Jun 2024, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:45 am

**** that asshole... He is still searching.

 
 

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:44 am

your point?

I would wager that more people get shot in NYC than in New Hampshire

 

But the problem child in this discussion is CHICAGO.  

*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:49 am

But the problem child in this discussion is CHICAGO.

Why do YOU think that Chicago has more gun violence than New York City?

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:51 am

Why do YOU think that Chicago has more gun violence than New York City?

 

I have no idea.  Lax prosecutors, bail laws, etc.  And for the most part only the bad guys have guns.  

*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:53 am

I have no idea.  Lax prosecutors, bail laws, etc.  And for the most part only the bad guys have guns.

two takes:

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/ ... 0ownership.

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/illinois/

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:56 am

two takes:

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/ ... 0ownership.

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/illinois/

 

 Illinois is surrounded by states with much weaker laws, and an outsized share of likely trafficked guns recovered in Illinois are originally purchased out-of-state—especially in Indiana, just across the border from Chicago.In recent years, Illinois has enacted gun dealer licensing, an improved illegal gun removal program, and an Extreme Risk law.

It is already illegal to purchase handguns in one state and transport them to another with the gun being sent to an ffl in the state you live.  

*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:00 pm

 Illinois is surrounded by states with much weaker laws, and an outsized share of likely trafficked guns recovered in Illinois are originally purchased out-of-state—especially in Indiana, just across the border from Chicago.In recent years, Illinois has enacted gun dealer licensing, an improved illegal gun removal program, and an Extreme Risk law.

It is already illegal to purchase handguns in one state and transport them to another with the gun being sent to an ffl in the state you live.

So those Indiana Red staters are causing the problems in the windy city?

who knew?

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm

So those Indiana Red staters are causing the problems in the windy city?

who knew?

You mean the Crack *** City?    

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm

So those Indiana Red staters are causing the problems in the windy city?

who knew?

 

No, not at all.  DId you read, but more importantly, understand what I typed?

It is illegal to go to another state and buy a handgun and carry it back to Illinios without the sale going thru an FFL.  

https://www.alphakoncepts.com/can-an-il ... her-state/

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:51 am

Why do YOU think that Chicago has more gun violence than New York City?

Chicago is most likely more over run with ****** in  leadership / law enforcement and also with chimping and screeching Democrat Party loyal Murder Monkeys per capita as compared to New York
Just a guess.
Take a great big nasty whiff of Democrat run Africa USA.....ENJOY  !!       

 

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:03 pm

So those Indiana Red staters are causing the problems in the windy city?

who knew?

No.
Only dishonest pieces of **** like you look at high murder rates in Red States as a State Issue instead  of what most overwhelmingly is a *** ISSUE IN THE LIBERAL RUN CITIES WITHIN THE RED STATE.
Study this chart.
​​​​​​​Hopefully it isn't too "MATHY" for you to understand.

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 11:17 am

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/ 

Yeah, and like a dutiful little far-left liberal, you happily swallow such **** numbers when you know damn well that liberal prosecutors in virtually every Democrat-run cities have been hard at work for the past 4 years downgrading criminal felony charges to misdemeanors and providing criminals with release and no bail specifically to create those phony numbers that make blind and gullible idiots like yourself happy.

And that's precisely why your claims to be an intelligent, well-educated Democrat belie the reality that's obvious to anyone who still has a working brain.
 

Zeets2 » 18 Jun 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:19 pm

Yeah, and like a dutiful little far-left liberal, you happily swallow such **** numbers when you know damn well that liberal prosecutors in virtually every Democrat-run cities have been hard at work for the past 4 years downgrading criminal felony charges to misdemeanors and providing criminals with release and no bail specifically to create those phony numbers that make blind and gullible idiots like yourself happy.

And that's precisely why your claims to be an intelligent, well-educated Democrat belie the reality that's obvious to anyone who still has a working brain.

nice **** spin.  Do you have ANYTHING from any reputable source that would back up your claim that any of that was done specifically to create phony numbers?

*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:09 pm

No, not at all.  DId you read, but more importantly, understand what I typed?

It is illegal to go to another state and buy a handgun and carry it back to Illinios without the sale going thru an FFL.  

https://www.alphakoncepts.com/can-an-il ... her-state/

So folks from Indiana can't drive a half-hour west and park on a corner on the south side?

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 12:56 pm

So folks from Indiana can't drive a half-hour west and park on a corner on the south side?

Do what?  Legally sell a handgun?  Or any gun for that matter?  No. 

*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 1:04 pm

Do what?  Legally sell a handgun?  Or any gun for that matter?  No.

All the death and destruction from handguns in Chicago comes from legally purchased ones?

I find that amazing!

maineman » 18 Jun 2024, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 1:16 pm

All the death and destruction from handguns in Chicago comes from legally purchased ones?

I find that amazing!

 

No.  I am simply pointing out that there are laws against everything you mentioned.  Nod.   I find it amazing that such an alleged educated man does not get the point UNLESS he is being an *** and simply trolling.

In that case you can **** yourself and don't ever bitch about not being able to find good debates.  Capsice, Gilligan?

*Huey » 18 Jun 2024, 1:19 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2024, 1:19 pm

No.  I am simply pointing out that there are laws against everything you mentioned.  Nod.   I find it amazing that such an alleged educated man does not get the point UNLESS he is being an *** and simply trolling.

In that case you can **** yourself and don't ever bitch about not being able to find good debates.  Capsice, Gilligan?

I am trying to understand what your point is about gun violence in Chicago.  Are you really suggesting that it has to do with the predominant political party in that city?    More people die in Chicago because of democrats?  What?