My take on the debates

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By FOS
29 Jun 2024 2:15 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Basically, this was just a typical example of how nobody should take the usa seriously.

Imagine what it would be like to read a few pages of pareto and then watch this debate. They literally got in an argument about who was better at golf.

Biden called trump fat and a whiner. Both suggested their opponent was criminal. Neither could agree on basic facts.

But their priorities were rather clearly implied. Trump criticized immigration for stealing the jobs of black people. Neither mentioned what concerns white people might have.

Biden actually tried the cliche that politicians should not legislate on woman's health. Which of course translates to politicians should have no say on whether murder should be illegal. Well if that isnt part of their job, what is?

It's a dumb and fake cliche, but it does open up an interesting paradigm. Why should politicians have any say about social security then? Leave it to economists? Why should they have a say on ukraine or israel? Why not generals? What actually is the job of politicians? Just making sure black people have jobs?

Honestly, I do not see how anyone could watch that debate and still have any respect for the usa, despite how convinced biden said he was that it is the best county. Regardless of which candidate you think is unacceptable (because it has to be one or the other)...it was also a former president. These apparently are the greatest leaders that this 'country' can muster. 

 
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:15 am » wrote: Basically, this was just a typical example of how nobody should take the usa seriously.

Imagine what it would be like to read a few pages of pareto and then watch this debate. They literally got in an argument about who was better at golf.

Biden called trump fat and a whiner. Both suggested their opponent was criminal. Neither could agree on basic facts.

But their priorities were rather clearly implied. Trump criticized immigration for stealing the jobs of black people. Neither mentioned what concerns white people might have.

Biden actually tried the cliche that politicians should not legislate on woman's health. Which of course translates to politicians should have no say on whether murder should be illegal. Well if that isnt part of their job, what is?

It's a dumb and fake cliche, but it does open up an interesting paradigm. Why should politicians have any say about social security then? Leave it to economists? Why should they have a say on ukraine or israel? Why not generals? What actually is the job of politicians? Just making sure black people have jobs?

Honestly, I do not see how anyone could watch that debate and still have any respect for the usa, despite how convinced biden said he was that it is the best county. Regardless of which candidate you think is unacceptable (because it has to be one or the other)...it was also a former president. These apparently are the greatest leaders that this 'country' can muster.
Well- i like Trump and think there is something *special* about him. With that being said.. the other clown. People have to clear their minds.
He IS a mental patient with dementia!
It is that simple. 
but No- rather then folks having the GUTS to admit that- they chose to Lie-and attempt to cover it up. Clinging to power.
With all the people in this country? They RUN THAT?
Even the liberals on chat forums. They will not admit it- even to themselves. 
bv is an example of that.

 
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sootedupCyndi » 29 Jun 2024, 2:39 am » wrote: Well- i like Trump and think there is something *special* about him. With that being said.. the other clown. People have to clear their minds.
He IS a mental patient with dementia!
It is that simple. 
but No- rather then folks having the GUTS to admit that- they chose to Lie-and attempt to cover it up. Clinging to power.
With all the people in this country? They RUN THAT?
Even the liberals on chat forums. They will not admit it- even to themselves. 
bv is an example of that.

well this mental patient is your president. Think about that. How seriously can you take this country?

and people voted for him. How seriously can you take them?

Something has to be rotten with our whole system if this senile old fool is the president. There is just no way around that.

And what is so special about Trump? For the most part he evaded the questions. His main concern seems to be black people and also escalating conflict with Iran and Russia. None of that is good for me....why would I like the guy?
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:51 am » wrote: well this mental patient is your president. Think about that. How seriously can you take this country?

and people voted for him. How seriously can you take them?

Something has to be rotten with our whole system if this senile old fool is the president. There is just no way around that.

And what is so special about Trump? For the most part he evaded the questions. His main concern seems to be black people and also escalating conflict with Iran and Russia. None of that is good for me....why would I like the guy?
LOL I Have!
that's what I mean.
right after that performance on the debate. They went to a rally and the idiots where shouting " We need you" we need you" ( to Biden)
i thought to myself. WHY?
why would anyone need him. :wave:  
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sootedupCyndi » 29 Jun 2024, 2:58 am » wrote: LOL I Have!
that's what I mean.
right after that performance on the debate. They went to a rally and the idiots where shouting " We need you" we need you" ( to Biden)
i thought to myself. WHY?
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ok. But to me that just means the country is **** up. Not that Trump is great.

let's examine Trump being a convicted felon, for example. Biden mentioned that no president had ever been a convicted felon. If, as biden suggests, Trump really is a rapist...then that is not merely an indictment on Trump, it is an indictment on the country.

because he was president.

Meanwhile, in the same debate, biden insisted the usa is the greatest country.

that statement is obviously contradicted by the fact we elect rapists as president, according to his world view. and it is an obvious contradiction, and he made this contradiction expecting few people would notice. And he was right. And something is wrong with the people who voted for Trump, in bidens world view. That is a lot of people.

Meanwhile, if Trump is innocent and the country is just committing bad faith lawfare on him in an attempt to keep him out of office, that is also an indictment on this country. And an indictment on people who voted for biden, which is a lot of people.

No matter how you slice it, the country sucks. It isn't even about Trump vs biden.
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:51 am » wrote: well this mental patient is your president. Think about that. How seriously can you take this country? 
I could be wrong but isn't braindead your president too?

Or are the rumors true and you are a Canadian now that you are married, in that case Trudope would be your president, not exactly an improvement to put it mildly.. oh, you still owe us some pics of the wedding..

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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 3:22 am » wrote:
let's examine Trump being a convicted felon, for example. Biden mentioned that no president had ever been a convicted felon. If, as biden suggests, Trump really is a rapist...then that is not merely an indictment on Trump, it is an indictment on the country.

because he was president.

Total trumped up leftist ****. How do you "examine" that? Or anything else? You have no facts. Leftist cock sucker scum need to be eliminated,
He's dead Jim!
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Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2024, 3:59 am » wrote: I could be wrong but isn't braindead your president too?

Or are the rumors true and you are a Canadian now that you are married, in that case Trudope would be your president, not exactly an improvement to put it mildly.. oh, you still owe us some pics of the wedding..

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I don't get it. You think I would have a difficult time admitting I am a citizen of a **** country? 
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 4:17 am » wrote: I don't get it. You think I would have a difficult time admitting I am a citizen of a **** country?
Not at all, I was just wondering what country you are a citizen of now, you were all lyrical about your beautiful nazi bride to be but you never told us how the wedding went, inquiring minds want to know, did it work out out or did you get a divorce.. we want to see the pics..

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murdock » 29 Jun 2024, 4:04 am » wrote: Total trumped up leftist ****. How do you "examine" that? Or anything else? You have no facts. Leftist cock sucker scum need to be eliminated,
Clearly you don't have the reading comprehension to understand my point, fellow voter. But let me help you understand: eliminating leftist scum would actually be illegal. 
 
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Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2024, 4:33 am » wrote: Not at all, I was just wondering what country you are a citizen of now, you were all lyrical about your beautiful nazi bride to be but you never told us how the wedding went, inquiring minds want to know, did it work out out or did you get a divorce.. we want to see the pics..

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Right...so you just want personal info on me and my wife. Canada is currently considering some pretty extreme internet speech laws, fyi. I don't think sharing personal data is wise. Maybe that is why you want it.
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 4:41 am » wrote: Right...so you just want personal info on me and my wife. Canada is currently considering some pretty extreme internet speech laws, fyi. I don't think sharing personal data is wise. Maybe that is why you want it.
Wrong, I don't care about your personal info, I just want to see some pics, you didn't have a problem posting them before, why is it suddenly a big secret?

Not that I'm suspicious.. lol.. well, maybe a little bit.. but your evasive answers give people the impression that maybe you just made the entire thing up..

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Jantje_Smit » 29 Jun 2024, 5:03 am » wrote: Wrong, I don't care about your personal info, I just want to see some pics, you didn't have a problem posting them before, why is it suddenly a big secret?

Not that I'm suspicious.. lol.. well, maybe a little bit.. but your evasive answers give people the impression that maybe you just made the entire thing up..

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It was unwise of me to ever share personal info
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 5:12 am » wrote: It was unwise of me to ever share personal info
Damn, you aren't much fun, I just wondered if you're happily living with your nazi bride in the woods in Canada now, how is that asking for secret personal info?

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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:15 am » wrote: Basically, this was just a typical example of how nobody should take the usa seriously.

Imagine what it would be like to read a few pages of pareto and then watch this debate. They literally got in an argument about who was better at golf.

Biden called trump fat and a whiner. Both suggested their opponent was criminal. Neither could agree on basic facts.

But their priorities were rather clearly implied. Trump criticized immigration for stealing the jobs of black people. Neither mentioned what concerns white people might have.

Biden actually tried the cliche that politicians should not legislate on woman's health. Which of course translates to politicians should have no say on whether murder should be illegal. Well if that isnt part of their job, what is?

It's a dumb and fake cliche, but it does open up an interesting paradigm. Why should politicians have any say about social security then? Leave it to economists? Why should they have a say on ukraine or israel? Why not generals? What actually is the job of politicians? Just making sure black people have jobs?

Honestly, I do not see how anyone could watch that debate and still have any respect for the usa, despite how convinced biden said he was that it is the best county. Regardless of which candidate you think is unacceptable (because it has to be one or the other)...it was also a former president. These apparently are the greatest leaders that this 'country' can muster.
you forgot the Latinos... :lol:  

that being said, you're correct..most people I talk to, talk about how sad it is that these two are the only choices we have..third parties are always outliers or potential disrupters, nothing else until another party becomes a viable threat...

unfortunately there are too many influencers, aka lobbyists with deep pockets that run gubment...it's a place where if you pander enough to those who vote you in, serve *sic* a minimum of two terms, you'll reap all the benefits and walk away a millionaire..
 
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:15 am » wrote: Basically, this was just a typical example of how nobody should take the usa seriously.

Imagine what it would be like to read a few pages of pareto and then watch this debate. They literally got in an argument about who was better at golf.

Biden called trump fat and a whiner. Both suggested their opponent was criminal. Neither could agree on basic facts.

But their priorities were rather clearly implied. Trump criticized immigration for stealing the jobs of black people. Neither mentioned what concerns white people might have.

Biden actually tried the cliche that politicians should not legislate on woman's health. Which of course translates to politicians should have no say on whether murder should be illegal. Well if that isnt part of their job, what is?

It's a dumb and fake cliche, but it does open up an interesting paradigm. Why should politicians have any say about social security then? Leave it to economists? Why should they have a say on ukraine or israel? Why not generals? What actually is the job of politicians? Just making sure black people have jobs?

Honestly, I do not see how anyone could watch that debate and still have any respect for the usa, despite how convinced biden said he was that it is the best county. Regardless of which candidate you think is unacceptable (because it has to be one or the other)...it was also a former president. These apparently are the greatest leaders that this 'country' can muster. 

 
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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:51 am » wrote: well this mental patient is your president. Think about that. How seriously can you take this country?

and people voted for him. How seriously can you take them?

Something has to be rotten with our whole system if this senile old fool is the president. There is just no way around that.

And what is so special about Trump? For the most part he evaded the questions. His main concern seems to be black people and also escalating conflict with Iran and Russia. None of that is good for me....why would I like the guy?
Debates are a popularity contest. A marketing ploy.
Have we ever actually learned anything "new" about a candidate?

I expect Trump would single out the demographic with which he can make the most brownie points.
Pun intended.
His inroads are basically as solid as they're going to get among whites.

Biden has only a splatter gun approach similar to his brain scan
(which must be as structured as a 50 year wet-brain).
Puree intended.
He and his entire "team" are desperate scramblers. NHB's own favorite chamber pot is proof of that.

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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:15 am » wrote:
Honestly, I do not see how anyone could watch that debate and still have any respect for the usa, 
I don't think any nation has respect for the USA. The only reason we are feared, not respected (there is a difference) is because we have a huge military. That's it. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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FOS » 29 Jun 2024, 2:15 am » wrote: Basically, this was just a typical example of how nobody should take the usa seriously.

Imagine what it would be like to read a few pages of pareto and then watch this debate. They literally got in an argument about who was better at golf.

Biden called trump fat and a whiner. Both suggested their opponent was criminal. Neither could agree on basic facts.

But their priorities were rather clearly implied. Trump criticized immigration for stealing the jobs of black people. Neither mentioned what concerns white people might have.

Biden actually tried the cliche that politicians should not legislate on woman's health. Which of course translates to politicians should have no say on whether murder should be illegal. Well if that isnt part of their job, what is?

It's a dumb and fake cliche, but it does open up an interesting paradigm. Why should politicians have any say about social security then? Leave it to economists? Why should they have a say on ukraine or israel? Why not generals? What actually is the job of politicians? Just making sure black people have jobs?

Honestly, I do not see how anyone could watch that debate and still have any respect for the usa, despite how convinced biden said he was that it is the best county. Regardless of which candidate you think is unacceptable (because it has to be one or the other)...it was also a former president. These apparently are the greatest leaders that this 'country' can muster.
Neither man is at liberty to speak honestly about what really ails the USA.
NO MAN who speaks the truth about what really ails the USA would be permitted to be the leader of either party.
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Deezer Shoove » 29 Jun 2024, 8:34 am » wrote: Debates are a popularity contest. A marketing ploy.
Have we ever actually learned anything "new" about a candidate?

I expect Trump would single out the demographic with which he can make the most brownie points.
Pun intended.
His inroads are basically as solid as they're going to get among whites.

Biden has only a splatter gun approach similar to his brain scan
(which must be as structured as a 50 year wet-brain).
Puree intended.
He and his entire "team" are desperate scramblers. NHB's own favorite chamber pot is proof of that.

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