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jerrab » 02 Jul 2024, 11:16 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2024, 11:16 pm

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/politics ... index.html

The case centers around Trump’s handling of classified documents after his presidency and his resistance to the government’s attempts to retrieve the materials he took to Mar-a-Lago from the White House.Trump’s personal aide, Walt Nauta, and Carlos de Oliveira, Mar-a-Lago’s property manager, have also been charged. All three have pleaded not guilty.

GHETTOBLASTER » 03 Jul 2024, 4:03 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2024, 4:03 pm

These documents are as heavily accounted for as public library books.if not more so.
They are obviously stored as permanent record in duplicate, or triplicate, or quadruplicate.
Do you really think Trump was hired with a 100 percent chance of getting caught [and possibly tried for treason] to sell our nuclear secrets to Putin or Iran...?
I will continue to badger you with this question until you have been forced to answer in your own words exactly what I am demanding that you explain to this forum, right **** here, right **** now.    

jerrab » 03 Jul 2024, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2024, 4:30 pm

your question does not make sense.

jerrab » 03 Jul 2024, 3:40 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2024, 3:40 pm

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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... -documents

One thing the president cannot do, though, is declassify information “by thinking about it” — i.e., without communicating that decision to anyone else. This conclusion follows not from any particular legal requirements but rather from the very essence of what it means to classify or declassify information. As noted above, these are two-step processes: first, an official determines whether the information requires protection, and second, the information is flagged to ensure that the protections are applied or removed. If an official claims to have classified or declassified information after taking the first step but not the second, it’s like a customer saying she ordered food at a restaurant when she has decided what she wants to eat but hasn’t told the waiter.

jerrab » 03 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm

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One thing the president cannot do, though, is declassify information “by thinking about it” — i.e., without communicating that decision to anyone else. This conclusion follows not from any particular legal requirements but rather from the very essence of what it means to classify or declassify information. As noted above, these are two-step processes: first, an official determines whether the information requires protection, and second, the information is flagged to ensure that the protections are applied or removed.

jerrab » 02 Jul 2024, 11:43 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2024, 11:43 pm

------------------------------And on June 3, 2022, Butler said he worked with Trump bodyman Will Nauta and Mar-a-Lago property manager Carlos De Oliveira to load cardboard boxes full of documents onto Trump’s plane in Florida before it took off for New Jersey for the summer. That day, an attorney for Trump told the FBI that all classified documents at Mar-a-Lago were accounted for, according to the indictment. Prosecutors now say that assertion by Trump’s team was false, alleging that the ex-president delayed his flight to speak with federal investigators that day and “claimed to the Department of Justice and FBI that he was ‘an open book,’” according to a court filing, hours after Butler says 10-15 boxes of documents were loaded onto the former president’s plane.Nauta had asked Butler to borrow a car from the car service he ran, the former employee recalled in the CNN interview. “I didn't think anything of it. It was a little odd the way he asked me… because typically, he wouldn’t go get a vehicle, drive himself and get luggage,” Butler said, recounting Nauta waiting for him offsite to follow him in a separate car with the boxes of documents. Once at the airport, Butler helped load them onto the plane, unaware of the classified documents prosecutors now say were inside. “I'm just thinking, ‘eh, the former president, he has a lot of stuff he likes to lug around with him.’ I never would have thought it was anything like what we see.”

jerrab » 03 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm

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One thing the president cannot do, though, is declassify information “by thinking about it” — i.e., without communicating that decision to anyone else. This conclusion follows not from any particular legal requirements but rather from the very essence of what it means to classify or declassify information. As noted above, these are two-step processes: first, an official determines whether the information requires protection, and second, the information is flagged to ensure that the protections are applied or removed.

jerrab » 03 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm

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One thing the president cannot do, though, is declassify information “by thinking about it” — i.e., without communicating that decision to anyone else. This conclusion follows not from any particular legal requirements but rather from the very essence of what it means to classify or declassify information. As noted above, these are two-step processes: first, an official determines whether the information requires protection, and second, the information is flagged to ensure that the protections are applied or removed.

PhiloBeddo » 01 Jul 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

01 Jul 2024, 10:13 am

Trump proven right AGAIN. Trump 900 Dems 0 Dems are wrong every time.