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And @ConsRule  ....

I stand by my assertion that Ezekiel 23 is never read in a worship service in those denominations...

But you tell me:  how many Sunday School teachers do you think are going to sit down in front of a bunch of little children and say, "Kids... listen now to this passage from the word of God:  There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." ???  

jerrab » 05 Jul 2024, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:15 pm

what sin won't God forgive?

 Matthew 5:38-48
King James Version38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Matthew 6:

Jesus Teaches About Prayer

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites. They love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners and pray so people will see them. I tell you the truth, they already have their full reward. 

6 When you pray, you should go into your room and close the door and pray to your Father who cannot be seen. Your Father can see what is done in secret, and he will reward you.

God Is More Important than Money

19 “Don’t store treasures for yourselves here on earth where moths and rust will destroy them and thieves can break in and steal them. 20 But store your treasures in heaven where they cannot be destroyed by moths or rust and where thieves cannot break in and steal them. 21 Your heart will be where your treasure is.

22 “The eye is a light for the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are evil, your whole body will be full of darkness. And if the only light you have is really darkness, then you have the worst darkness.24 “No one can serve two masters. The person will hate one master and love the other, or will follow one master and refuse to follow the other. You cannot serve both God and worldly riches

 
 

maineman » 02 Jul 2024, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2024, 3:16 pm

I was disappointed in Joe, to be sure.  Trump's tidal wave of Gish Galloping lies was truly abhorrent, however.

Can you name one?

ConsRule » 05 Jul 2024, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:07 pm

And I never limited my comments to only things coming from the pulpit.  Maybe you should take a class in reading comprehension.

Your reply to me was about my assertion that the passage would not be read at church. 

maineman » 05 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm

Your reply to me was about my assertion that the passage would not be read at church.

I have no interest in furthering a circular discussion with someone who has no idea what every congregation within every denomination will and won't do.

But feel free to bloviate at will.

ConsRule » 05 Jul 2024, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:30 pm

That is referring to salvation...not forgiveness of sin.

same difference.

you can't be saved unless you are forgiven. per all main church doctrines.

jerrab » 05 Jul 2024, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:44 pm

same difference.

you can't be saved unless you are forgiven. per all main church doctrines.

No...the only way to be saved is to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

All that is needed to have your sin be forgiven is to confess it, ask for forgiveness and repent.

Is it your position that every single member of every single congregation with every denomination is truly saved? 

 

jerrab » 05 Jul 2024, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:44 pm

same difference.

you can't be saved unless you are forgiven. per all main church doctrines.

But you can be forgiven without being saved.
 

maineman » 05 Jul 2024, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:30 pm

And @ConsRule  ....

I stand by my assertion that Ezekiel 23 is never read in a worship service in those denominations...

But you tell me:  how many Sunday School teachers do you think are going to sit down in front of a bunch of little children and say, "Kids... listen now to this passage from the word of God:  There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." ???

Where is all of your angst and outrage when disease ridden, mentally ill,  fudge packing sexual deviants use the Public School system to recruit future members of the society debasing  [[[QUEER NATION]]]...?

ConsRule » 05 Jul 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:51 pm

But you can be forgiven without being saved.

are forgiven people in jail?

jerrab » 05 Jul 2024, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:54 pm

are forgiven people in jail?

I don't know, or pretend to know, the situation of every person in jail.  My guess is, some are...yes.

GHETTOBLASTER » 05 Jul 2024, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:53 pm

Where is all of your angst and outrage when disease ridden, mentally ill,  fudge packing sexual deviants use the Public School system to recruit future members of the society debasing  [[[QUEER NATION]]]...?

You expect consistency?  He's a liberal.

ConsRule » 05 Jul 2024, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:58 pm

I don't know, or pretend to know, the situation of every person in jail.  My guess is, some are...yes.

if  they were known to be innocent they would be free.

Jesus taught of a kinder God than the old testament. 

ConsRule » 05 Jul 2024, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:43 pm

I have no interest in furthering a circular discussion with someone who has no idea what every congregation within every denomination will and won't do.

But feel free to bloviate at will.

I never said I had any insight into it.  I do have an insight into denominational polity, and I do have insight into the contents of the three-year common lectionary mutually adopted by a whole **** of denominations.

RebelGator » 05 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm

Can you name one?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/tru ... rcna159456

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... highlights

several
 

Beakman » 05 Jul 2024, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 3:16 pm

The Bible was describing a whore . Did it hit close to home?

I bet that vegans will get behind scriptures in schools 

Leviticus 11

6 The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you.

7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 

9 "Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales.

10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales--whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water--you are to detest.

one for the environmentalist 

 20 "`All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you.

21 There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground

.22 Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.

imagine putting that in the halls of southern schools, and elsewhere 

no eating wabbit 

no crawdads

no crab boils

no turtle meat

but they are allowed to eat bugs    

just wait until they find out that women can’t wear pants 

hard telling what this will lead to when zealots of all stripes get involved 

This is gonna work out just fine   
 
 
 

maineman » 05 Jul 2024, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 4:30 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/tru ... rcna159456

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... highlights

several

I didn't think you could do it, you just can't name one lie.......those **** opinion pieces aren't proof of anything but a partisan agenda.
Try again, when the whine wears off.

RebelGator » 05 Jul 2024, 5:23 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 5:23 pm

I didn't think you could do it, you just can't name one lie.......those **** opinion pieces aren't proof of anything but a partisan agenda.
Try again, when the whine wears off.

“But Social Security, he’s destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they are putting them onto Social Security.”
a lie.