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*Huey » 06 Jul 2024, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 9:29 am

Under which doctrine?

If you are Roman Catholic, if you have not committed a mortal sin, and. you have confessed, you first go to purgatory.  Then move to heaven.

If you are say, a Southern Baptist, a protestant, if you have accepted Jesus as your personal savior and have accepted you are a sinner, you go to heaven.

You gotta be more specific in your little game of gotcha.

perer 2 37 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.-----

so why does the earth continue on?
 

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 9:42 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 9:42 am

perer 2 37 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.-----

so why does the earth continue on?

Dunno.  When you meet your maker you can ask.

dildo_swaggins » 05 Jul 2024, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 4:36 pm

The Bible was describing a whore . Did it hit close to home?
 

 “Her sister Oholibah saw all this, but she became even worse than her sister in lust and whoring, if you can believe it. She also went crazy with lust for Assyrians: ambassadors and governors, military men smartly dressed and mounted on fine horses—the Assyrian elite. And I saw that she also had become incredibly filthy. Both women followed the same path. But Oholibah surpassed her sister. When she saw figures of Babylonians carved in relief on the walls and painted red, fancy belts around their waists, elaborate turbans on their heads, all of them looking important—famous Babylonians!—she went wild with lust and sent invitations to them in Babylon. The Babylonians came on the run, fornicated with her, made her dirty inside and out. When they had thoroughly debased her, she lost interest in them. Then she went public with her fornication. She exhibited her sex to the world. “I turned my back on her just as I had on her sister. But that didn’t slow her down. She went at her whoring harder than ever. She remembered when she was young, just starting out as a whore in Egypt. That whetted her appetite for more virile, vulgar, and violent lovers—stallions obsessive in their lust. She longed for the sexual prowess of her youth back in Egypt, where her firm young breasts were caressed and fondled.MEVFor she lusted after their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of donkeys and whose issue is like the
 

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 9:35 am

when have I ever judged you wrong?

I also go by your previous posts.

All the time... and I go by yours as well.

Another one you do is making a statement that you can't backup, and then demanding that the person that calls you on it, to prove it's not true.

It's like if I said you suck dicks at the local glory hole every Wednesday after church... and that's 100% fact because you can't "prove" that it's not.






 

*Huey » 06 Jul 2024, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 9:43 am

Dunno.  When you meet your maker you can ask.

the answer is obvious, but it goes against doctrines so it gets shelved.

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 10:07 am

the answer is obvious, but it goes against doctrines so it gets shelved.

If it is so obvious why are you asking me?  

*rippy38 » 06 Jul 2024, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 9:48 am

All the time... and I go by yours as well.

Another one you do is making a statement that you can't backup, and then demanding that the person that calls you on it, to prove it's not true.

It's like if I said you suck dicks at the local glory hole every Wednesday after church... and that's 100% fact because you can't "prove" that it's not.

like I have ever you accused of such. 
 

jerra b » 06 Jul 2024, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 9:26 am

do you think that after a person dies he can get a second chance?

There are many accounts people die and not stay dead. Called NDE if I am correct.

31stArrival » 06 Jul 2024, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 10:24 am

There are many accounts people die and not stay dead. Called NDE if I am correct.

EVERYTHING is energy..

As we know through thermodynamics, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It simply changes states. The total amount of energy in an isolated system does not, cannot, change. And thanks to Einstein, we also know that matter and energy are two rungs on the same ladder.The universe as a whole is closed. However, human bodies (and other ecosystems) are not closed — they're open systems. We exchange energy with our surroundings. We can gain energy (again, through chemical processes), and we can lose it (by expelling waste or emitting heat).
 In death, the collection of atoms of which you are composed (a universe within the universe) are repurposed. Those atoms and that energy, which originated during the Big Bang, will always be around. Therefore, your "light," that is, the essence of your energy — not to be confused with your actual consciousness — will continue to echo throughout space until the end of time.
Death Physics: What Happens to Our Energy When We Die? | Futurism
 
 

MR-7 » 06 Jul 2024, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 10:57 am

EVERYTHING is energy..

As we know through thermodynamics, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It simply changes states. The total amount of energy in an isolated system does not, cannot, change. And thanks to Einstein, we also know that matter and energy are two rungs on the same ladder.The universe as a whole is closed. However, human bodies (and other ecosystems) are not closed — they're open systems. We exchange energy with our surroundings. We can gain energy (again, through chemical processes), and we can lose it (by expelling waste or emitting heat).
 In death, the collection of atoms of which you are composed (a universe within the universe) are repurposed. Those atoms and that energy, which originated during the Big Bang, will always be around. Therefore, your "light," that is, the essence of your energy — not to be confused with your actual consciousness — will continue to echo throughout space until the end of time.
Death Physics: What Happens to Our Energy When We Die? | Futurism
 
 

To people covering up actual evolving happens day to day nothing stays the same results again from midnight to noon or noon to midnight. There is no yesterday to compare first half tomorrow AM and second half this rotation today PM.

Want to discuss where the so called missing link figures in with economic theory and relative time logistics?

*Huey » 06 Jul 2024, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 10:08 am

If it is so obvious why are you asking me?

you said I attributed to you things that were not true.  

but I don't. I know what the different doctrines are purgatory, soul sleep, immediate entry into heaven or hell....etc.

the reason so many different theories in the christian religions is that they reject the truth which is explained by peter 2 /7-9

that if people do not come to repentance they get second chances, a person born in the 18th century say can still enter heaven if they repent in another life.  and so God keeps the world going to give all a chance to come to repentance for he wishes that none shall perish.  also Jesus said that john the baptist was elijah in a previous life.

 reincarnation is a doctrine that christans do not believe,

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:04 am

you said I attributed to you things that were not true.  

but I don't. I know what the different doctrines are purgatory, soul sleep, immediate entry into heaven or hell....etc.

the reason so many different theories in the christian religions is that they reject the truth which is explained by peter 2 /7-9

that if people do not come to repentance they get second chances, a person born in the 18th century say can still enter heaven if they repent in another life.  and so God keeps the world going to give all a chance to come to repentance for he wishes that none shall perish.  also Jesus said that john the baptist was elijah in a previous life.

 reincarnation is a doctrine that christans do not believe,

you said I attributed to you things that were not true.  

I said you attributed things to me that were not my postion or stance.  Since I rarely discuss religion, doctrine or theology you are I no position to do so.
 

*Huey » 06 Jul 2024, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:06 am

I said you attributed things to me that were not my postion or stance.  Since I rarely discuss religion, doctrine or theology you are I no position to do so.

 can you say what exactly I said was wrong?

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:10 am

 can you say what exactly I said was wrong?

I pointed out where you attributed stances to me I did not take.  You can back and find it or look in your notifications.  Not into repeating myself.

MR-7 » 06 Jul 2024, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 10:57 am

EVERYTHING is energy..

As we know through thermodynamics, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It simply changes states. The total amount of energy in an isolated system does not, cannot, change. And thanks to Einstein, we also know that matter and energy are two rungs on the same ladder.The universe as a whole is closed. However, human bodies (and other ecosystems) are not closed — they're open systems. We exchange energy with our surroundings. We can gain energy (again, through chemical processes), and we can lose it (by expelling waste or emitting heat).
 In death, the collection of atoms of which you are composed (a universe within the universe) are repurposed. Those atoms and that energy, which originated during the Big Bang, will always be around. Therefore, your "light," that is, the essence of your energy — not to be confused with your actual consciousness — will continue to echo throughout space until the end of time.
Death Physics: What Happens to Our Energy When We Die? | Futurism

everyone has doubts about life after death, myself included. but I had an experience a few years ago that made me believe.

jerrab » 05 Jul 2024, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jul 2024, 2:07 pm

what you believe in a Christ who will put every one in hell who does not believe what you believe.

That is one false stance.

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:14 am

everyone has doubts about life after death, myself included. but I had an experience a few years ago that made me believe.

Well, there you go. Glad that's working out for you.
 

*Huey » 06 Jul 2024, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:17 am

That is one false stance.

what about muslims? do they go to heaven?

jerrab » 06 Jul 2024, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:26 am

what about muslims? do they go to heaven?

What do you think?

*Huey » 06 Jul 2024, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 11:31 am

What do you think?

they get reincarnated like everyone else.