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jerrab » 09 Jul 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 11:10 am

I have no reason to believe that reincarnation started at christianity. this world is designed for us to learn and improve.

so why do you insist it's part of God's plan?

ROG62 » 09 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm

The timeline has been in place for 6000 years...no need to "keep it going..."

but it does
 

ROG62 » 09 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 2:34 pm

The timeline has been in place for 6000 years...no need to "keep it going..."

last time I checked the world is still going.

jerrab » 09 Jul 2024, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 2:52 pm

but it does

the time is nigh...

jerrab » 09 Jul 2024, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 3:08 pm

last time I checked the world is still going.

You do know we're coming to the end of this age, right?

jerra b » 09 Jul 2024, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 3:08 pm

last time I checked the world is still going.

why? How? down to specificity of each reproduction alive each rotation of the planet all life never stays same details each of the 5 generation gaps forward yesterday, today, tomorrow. 3 x 24 equals rule of 72 compounding results present.

Reality defines noon to midnight today and tomorrow arrives midnight to noon. Yesterday is left out of building better tomorrows so far. Zero based economic budgeting is also validating the big relative time lie.

Here is the big kicker as known as the necessary evil, live performances daily. Relative time logistics is necessary to have this species survive natural timing of genetics eternally separating living here now.

this is why I attack what corrupts, not the corrupted just trying to survive the educated stupidity of ignoring how evolving works since conceived..

ROG62 » 09 Jul 2024, 2:37 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 2:37 pm

so why do you insist it's part of God's plan?

Faith demands people believe life isn't self evident evolving every generation gap added forward in each ancestral lineage alive today.

Rhetorical answer to your rhetorical question intellectual minds collectively corrupt every great great grandchild's brain after birth. History in every society backs up what I suggest why humanity is absolutely corrupted every day.

I give exact details to how, why, what, where, when which society does to each who alive this rotation including means, motives, methods, opportunities, for those seeking to be exceptions to natural timing.

Hope, faith, charity seduce children while power wealth, and fame work seditiously on every adult alive academically artistically, economically, politically, spiritually regardless a dictatorship or democratically.

Every lifetime is required to surrender their instinctive awareness to pay to intellectually belong to a social narrative of their choice between lesser of two evils.

ROG62 » 09 Jul 2024, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jul 2024, 3:36 pm

You do know we're coming to the end of this age, right?

the end of the world has been predicted many times.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... tic_events

we should not hasten anything or hope for armeggedon,
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matthew 5

[9] Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

jerra b » 10 Jul 2024, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2024, 9:48 am

the end of the world has been predicted many times.    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... tic_events

we should not hasten anything or hope for armeggedon,

What is the actual world compared to this planet being part of the whole universe specifically balancing out details currently evolving in plain sight never staying previous results so far.

Called evolving into next details leaving accomplished results left alive this rotation of the planet universally unique as each reproduction occupying time today. Any previous generation lived so far. every next conception will be a unique addition to the food chain.

Which world are you saying ends? Humanity is just collective interpretations how living can cheat the natural process daily..

Hope? No need...The world is ripe and the time is nigh...

ROG62 » 07 Jul 2024, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:24 pm

They are not one in the same...sorry...

in the spirit and the power of elijah---

spirit means soul as in the holy spirit, sometimes  called the holy ghost.

jerrab » 11 Jul 2024, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 11:39 am

in the spirit and the power of elijah---

spirit means soul as in the holy spirit, sometimes  called the holy ghost.

In the spirit of is never literal...  

ROG62 » 11 Jul 2024, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:56 pm

In the spirit of is never literal...

in biblical times spirit meant soul and nothing else. 

catholic sermons include 'and with your spirit'.

jerrab » 11 Jul 2024, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 6:48 pm

in biblical times spirit meant soul and nothing else. 

catholic sermons include 'and with your spirit'.

but "in the spirit of" is in a different context...

if John was Elijah, it would be a possession, of which I am sure it would have been noted as there are many stories of possession in the Bible...

 you're grasping to the hope that if your not saved in this life, there will be endless chances...do you remember any "past lives"? I certainly don't, nor do I know of anyone that has...
 

jerra b » 11 Jul 2024, 6:48 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 6:48 pm

in biblical times spirit meant soul and nothing else. 

catholic sermons include 'and with your spirit'.

Before Biblical times vocabularies were oral history passed generation to generation in each village of families adapting to space evolving as displaced uniquely alive each rotation of the planet separated cradle to grave living in series parallel time displaced from rotation conceived to rotation died with none of the afterlife promises of immortality given by written laws ordering compliance to ideas life isn't self evident...

ROG62 » 12 Jul 2024, 6:57 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 6:57 am

but "in the spirit of" is in a different context...

if John was Elijah, it would be a possession, of which I am sure it would have been noted as there are many stories of possession in the Bible...

 you're grasping to the hope that if your not saved in this life, there will be endless chances...do you remember any "past lives"? I certainly don't, nor do I know of anyone that has...

there was only meaning of the word spirit and only one context.

ROG62 » 12 Jul 2024, 6:57 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 6:57 am

if John was Elijah, it would be a possession, of which I am sure it would have been noted as there are many stories of possession in the Bible...


 

you are questioning what Jesus says here.

ROG62 » 12 Jul 2024, 6:57 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 6:57 am

but "in the spirit of" is in a different context...

if John was Elijah, it would be a possession, of which I am sure it would have been noted as there are many stories of possession in the Bible...

 you're grasping to the hope that if your not saved in this life, there will be endless chances...do you remember any "past lives"? I certainly don't, nor do I know of anyone that has...

I looked to see which is true, the dead are asleep until judgement day or people go to heaven or hell at death. neither is true. there will be a judgement but the dead have not slept until judgement day. the workers in the vineyard is the  explanation that Christ gives, and it shows that no one stops working until the final day,

I will go one step further..... churches don't really care who goes to heaven. otherwise they would implore people to be more generous and the amount of hungry people reflect that churches are not concerned enough to warn the people to be more generous and caring. the  catholic church allows, even encourages animal torture with bullfighting and that is something Christ did not like and would hate to see bulls tormented to death for the enjoyment of evil people.

---------------------------Fiesta de San Fermín, festival held annually in Pamplona, Spain, beginning at noon on July 6 and ending at midnight on July 14, honouring the city's first bishop and patron saint, Saint Fermín. The festival was originally observed on Saint Fermín's feast day, September 25, but in 1592 the celebration was moved to July.--------------------

------------------------The best-known part of the festival is the running of the bulls, or the encierro. From July 7 to July 14 the bulls to be used in the daily bullfights are run through the streets of the town to the bullring. Both locals and tourists participate in the event, made famous in Ernest Hemingway’s 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises. The bullfight, or corrida, is held every afternoon. In addition to the secular events, the Procession of Saint Fermín, a religious celebration, takes place the morning of July 7. Other events associated with the fiesta include the comparsa, a parade featuring large puppets carried by the marchers, as well as numerous parties and spontaneous gatherings. The festival ends on July 14 with the singing of “Pobre de Mi” (“Old Poor Me”).-------------------


https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fiesta ... 0to%20July.
 
 
 

matthew 12

7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

jerra b » 12 Jul 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2024, 2:51 pm

matthew 12

7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.

Mathew 12 was published in what century after the death of Jesus?