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*Huey » 07 Jul 2024, 4:01 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:01 pm

No one is arguing with you, idiot.  We are talking about after September.  

I stipulate that until at least September you can call Trump a Convicted Felon.  You might not be able to after September.

No...you said the cases were "falling apart".

That's ****.

SCOTUS tipped the scales.  

Now Grifty gets a chance to assert "official duties"....except the offenses in question occurred before he was POTUS.

Blackvegetable » 07 Jul 2024, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:09 pm

No...you said the cases were "falling apart".

That's ****.

SCOTUS tipped the scales.  

Now Grifty gets a chance to assert "official duties"....except the offenses in question occurred before he was POTUS.

I stand by my stipulation.    We'll see.  

ConservativeWave » 06 Jul 2024, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 1:49 pm

After the race seemed pretty much a draw about this time last year... THEY (Democrats) executed an ILLEGAL and UN-ETHICAL plan of "Lawfare" against Donald Trump... where they concocted a series of Accusations, Indictments, and Trials... where a Weaponized Legal system organized by the Democrat Party, in cherry picked Democrat Controlled states and areas of the country... in an ALL OUT ATTACK on Donald Trump...

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT... that America would have seen COMPLETELY THRU the Democrat "scheme"... so that TODAY... Donald Trump is winning in MOST Polls, in MOST toss up states, and IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE !!

All of a sudden I have a LOT more confidence that the American people, given the accurate information, will DO the RIGHT THING !!

Have you ever felt stupid wearing that hat in support of "Worse than Buchanan"?
 

*Huey » 07 Jul 2024, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:10 pm

I stand by my stipulation.    We'll see.

Stipulation?

You said something stupid, revealing how uninformed you are.
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Jul 2024, 4:13 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:13 pm

Stipulation?

You said something stupid, revealing how uninformed you are.

No, I didn't.  It is an objective fact that right now you can call Trump a convicted felon.  It is an objective fact t hat Merchan putt off sentencing until Sept because of the Supreme Court Ruling.  It is an objective fact that the conviction could be tossed.

Stipulate to those facts.  I have.

But question you have to ask is that mistake up there intentional or not?

*Huey » 07 Jul 2024, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:16 pm

No, I didn't.  It is an objective fact that right now you can call Trump a convicted felon.
 It is an objective fact t hat Merchan putt off sentencing until Sept because of the Supreme Court Ruling.  It is an objective fact that the conviction could be tossed.

Stipulate to those facts.  I have.

But question you have to ask is that mistake up there intentional or not?

yes, you did. As succinctly explained. 

 It is an objective fact that the conviction could be tossed.

Tiny,

The case isn't falling apart.

The law may have been changed AFTER the case was successfully argued before a jury.

If his convictions are qualified by immunity, it doesn't change any of the facts established in court.

You continue to put faith in people whose analyses have been CONSISTENTLY WRONG for decades.

Can you think of a single one I've missed?
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Jul 2024, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:27 pm

yes, you did. As succinctly explained. 

Tiny,

The case isn't falling apart.

The law may have been changed AFTER the case was successfully argued before a jury.

If his convictions are qualified by immunity, it doesn't change any of the facts established in court.

You continue to put faith in people whose analyses have been CONSISTENTLY WRONG for decades.

Can you think of a single one I've missed?

Yeah, we know what you are saying.

We will find out in September and then on appeal.  But the fact you need to come to grips with is not enough care about his conviction.  And you have bigger problems to worry about.  Like a candidate. 

Blackvegetable » 07 Jul 2024, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 3:43 pm

He was convicted...34 counts.
34 counts, in a case that was rigged and orchestrated, and VERY WELL might be tossed OUT on appeal...

The cases convinced a jury.
A JURY in a 90% Democrat district, who were PREVENTED from hearing all the evidence, permitted to hear evidence from TWO convicted perjurers... and who were MISLED as to the application of the LAW...

Stop yapping, **** idiot.
The ONLY idiot here is YOU... WHO is pretending that a corrupt case, and verdict, will be upheld by the upper courts
 

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Sumela » 07 Jul 2024, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 11:55 am

You and your kind are why I celebrate the decline

of The Filthy *** States of Criminal Kid Cutting MURIqunt.....  

Fringe baloney is what you're fixated on.

RebelGator » 07 Jul 2024, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 5:24 pm

Fringe baloney is what you're fixated on.

Fringe stuff....like....

Trumpy's Evil Deep State??

     
 

Blackvegetable » 07 Jul 2024, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 3:55 pm

No...

The case was presented to a jury.

The jury returned a prompt verdict on all 34 counts in 9 hrs

Yes the appeal has not been heard 

Blackvegetable » 07 Jul 2024, 4:09 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jul 2024, 4:09 pm

No...you said the cases were "falling apart".

That's ****.

SCOTUS tipped the scales.  

Now Grifty gets a chance to assert "official duties"....except the offenses in question occurred before he was POTUS.

****?

1.  The Georgia Case:  A Georgia appeals court has halted all pretrial proceedings in Donald Trump’s Atlanta-based criminal case while a three-judge panel considers whether to disqualify the lead prosecutor, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.  THIS is all about the CORRUPTION of Fani Willis, when she abused her position to hire a boy toy... and the court has ALREDY fired her boy toy because it was OBVIOUSLY inappropriate !  BUT, they left Fani Willis on the case?  The Appeals court is looking into that, and the chances look SLIM, that she remains on the case... I think if Willis is fired... THIS case is DEAD... and CERTAINLY NOTHING is going to happen before 2025 !

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/0 ... s-00161883

2.  The Florida Case:  If the Gestapo like tactics used by Jack Smith and the FBI... to take over Trumps Mira Lago home in order to confiscate the classified documents... claiming lack of security while they were protected behind Gates & Walls, Trump Security Guards, layers of Video Surveillance, and a presidential security detail wasn't bad enough... When the FBI took the documents... THEY removed them from their original locations, jumbled and mixed them during their search... AND THEN took pictures of the jumbled mess to make it appear the documents were originally stored in that state... Jack Smith was FORCED to admit that it was the FBI that created the mess (possibly BECAUSE Trump had video evidence of the entire fiasco)... THIS, while Hillary Clinton destroyed 30,000 classified emails in her possession, Multiple phones containing classified data, and Joe Biden stored classified documents in his garage... while NEITHER were ever POTUS's.. and THEY were NEVER indicted for similar or MORE EGREGIOUS abuses !

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/0 ... s-00156124

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/p ... -case.html

3.  The NYC Case:  Trump was Tried and Convicted in one of the MOST Democrat dense places in America... as the Judge manipulated the proceedings, decided what evidence and witnesses he would permit to testify, but had NO PROBLEM allowing two convicted LIARS to testify... and permitting evidence that had NOTHING to do with the case... but ONLY to taint & Smear Donald Trump... MOST legal scholars expect this case to be overturned on appeal.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/0 ... r-00161110

4.  Presidential Immunity:  The SCOTUS has determined that Presidents have a substantial amount of immunity while performing official acts as president... THIS will affect ALL of the above cases to some degree... AND, the chances of any of the cases concluding before election day is small... while EVEN WITH what voters have seen to date... THEY are moving toward re-election Donald Trump !!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbusha ... ine-again/

****?  ****, MY *** !!
 

Oh no Fani

BuckNaked » 08 Jul 2024, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2024, 9:27 am

Oh no Fani

THIS is a case of the Democrat INMATES, Running the asylum !!

We need GROWN UPS running things... NOT Corrupt, Self Serving, Power Hungry, PUPPETS of the Rich Elites !

ConservativeWave » 06 Jul 2024, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2024, 1:49 pm

After the race seemed pretty much a draw about this time last year... THEY (Democrats) executed an ILLEGAL and UN-ETHICAL plan of "Lawfare" against Donald Trump... where they concocted a series of Accusations, Indictments, and Trials... where a Weaponized Legal system organized by the Democrat Party, in cherry picked Democrat Controlled states and areas of the country... in an ALL OUT ATTACK on Donald Trump...

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT... that America would have seen COMPLETELY THRU the Democrat "scheme"... so that TODAY... Donald Trump is winning in MOST Polls, in MOST toss up states, and IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE !!

All of a sudden I have a LOT more confidence that the American people, given the accurate information, will DO the RIGHT THING !!

CV,
it seems that all the Democrats wanted to do is call Trump a “felon”. ….they achieved that…..
(nothing like the trivial-symbolic victories, eh?)
​​​​​….,oh wait, Trump is still -winning-…….right to the  Presidency!
​​​​​​…..good job Democrats!
 

jefftec » 08 Jul 2024, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2024, 2:28 pm

CV,
it seems that all the Democrats wanted to do is call Trump a “felon”. ….they achieved that…..
(nothing like the trivial-symbolic victories, eh?)
​​​​​….,oh wait, Trump is still -winning-…….right to the  Presidency!
​​​​​​…..good job Democrats!

There’s a lot of time for them to cum up with something,,,,,, a human bug, a disease, etc etc etc 

jefftec » 08 Jul 2024, 2:28 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2024, 2:28 pm

CV,
it seems that all the Democrats wanted to do is call Trump a “felon”. ….they achieved that…..
(nothing like the trivial-symbolic victories, eh?)
​​​​​….,oh wait, Trump is still -winning-…….right to the  Presidency!
​​​​​​…..good job Democrats!

Well, it seems to me that WHAT they wanted to do, and WHAT they did, was a LOT more destructive, and malicious, and harmful than just "Calling" Trump a felon... Hundreds of millions of $$$, loss of business licenses, and confiscating of properties were ALL part of their plan...

THIS ALL borders on Mafia like, and Racketeering, tactics... and to be honest, with ALL OF IT being executed by the U.S. Government... is a HELL of a lot more serious than THAT !  THIS was a weaponization of the Federal Government, to ABUSE Power, OBSTRUCT Justice, and ALL to INFLUENCE Elections, and to CAPTURE and MAINTAIN Power...  

These people NEED to be PUNISHED to the FULLEST extent of the law... with NO CLEMENCY, and NO PARDONS...

MAY GOD have MERCY on their souls when they finally meet him... BUT WE SHOULD NOT !!
 
 

BuckNaked » 08 Jul 2024, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2024, 2:53 pm

There’s a lot of time for them to cum up with something,,,,,, a human bug, a disease, etc etc etc

Hmmm... it COULD be that THAT has already been used (i.e COVID?)

AND, it THAT turns out to be true in some way... the DEATH penalty should be on the table as punishment for ALL involved !

BuckNaked » 08 Jul 2024, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2024, 2:53 pm

There’s a lot of time for them to cum up with something,,,,,, a human bug, a disease, etc etc etc

….please, let’s not give them any ideas.
Afterall, they don’t account for the harm that they do.

ConservativeWave » 08 Jul 2024, 3:30 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Jul 2024, 3:30 pm

Well, it seems to me that WHAT they wanted to do, and WHAT they did, was a LOT more destructive, and malicious, and harmful than just "Calling" Trump a felon... Hundreds of millions of $$$, loss of business licenses, and confiscating of properties were ALL part of their plan...

THIS ALL borders on Mafia like, and Racketeering, tactics... and to be honest, with ALL OF IT being executed by the U.S. Government... is a HELL of a lot more serious than THAT !  THIS was a weaponization of the Federal Government, to ABUSE Power, OBSTRUCT Justice, and ALL to INFLUENCE Elections, and to CAPTURE and MAINTAIN Power...  

These people NEED to be PUNISHED to the FULLEST extent of the law... with NO CLEMENCY, and NO PARDONS...

MAY GOD have MERCY on their souls when they finally meet him... BUT WE SHOULD NOT !!
 

All so eloquently, as you put it, true.

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