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*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 8:50 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 8:50 am

You tell me what I told you.  You are so ambiguous it tough to nail down.  AOC is a political idiot.

Ocasio-Cortez criticizes ‘occupation of Palestine,’ but admits she’s no expertDemocratic congressional candidate says she recognizes Israel’s right to exist, called ‘clueless’ by critics

https://www.timesofisrael.com/alexandri ... palestine/

Coward.

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 8:52 am

Coward.

I don't know what you are rambling about.  What did I tell, Boston Coward?  I told you that you are an idiot.  Is that it?

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 8:54 am

I don't know what you are rambling about.  What did I tell, Boston Coward?  I told you that you are an idiot.  Is that it?

Tiny,

You've run from every question again.


Here is why your legal analysis is NEVER, EVER worth reading.

It was the judge the reinterpreted the verdict, probably because "rape" was the expected outcome and like a good little goose stepper who obliged

You, once again, have no idea what you're yapping about.

you're a moron.

period.

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 8:56 am

Tiny,

You've run from every question again.

Here is why your legal analysis is NEVER, EVER worth reading.

Here is why your legal analysis is NEVER, EVER worth reading.

you're a moron.

period.

You've run from every question again.

THat is lie.  I refuse to answer questions where concerning comments you did not read, or used strike thru.  I also refuse to answer questions that you have asked dozen of times.

Here is why your legal analysis is NEVER, EVER worth reading.

Mary, if you recall, I clearly marked part of that OPINION.  

1.  It is OBJECTIVE FACT the JURY rejected the rape "charge".

2.  It is OBJECTIVE FACT that the Judge stepped in to interpret the Jury's findings.

3.  It is OPINION as to why the Judge did so, as I pointed out in the original comment YOU DID NOT READ.

What else you got, Boston Coward.
 

RebelGator » 10 Jul 2024, 3:18 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jul 2024, 3:18 pm

Hardly, she's a whore.

hey she’s a nice girl 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 8:52 am

Coward.

hey did you see there is another screen name here doing the strike throughs like you do. Plays with Murdock all the time kind of like you and vegas go at it constantly.

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 9:01 am

THat is lie.  I refuse to answer questions where concerning comments you did not read, or used strike thru.  I also refuse to answer questions that you have asked dozen of times.

Mary, if you recall, I clearly marked part of that OPINION.  

1.  It is OBJECTIVE FACT the JURY rejected the rape "charge".

2.  It is OBJECTIVE FACT that the Judge stepped in to interpret the Jury's findings.

3.  It is OPINION as to why the Judge did so, as I pointed out in the original comment YOU DID NOT READ.

What else you got, Boston Coward.

 

You will have to name this question.

Apparently not.

THat is lie.  I refuse to answer questions where concerning comments you did not read, or used strike thru.  I also refuse to answer questions that you have asked dozen of times.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:04 pm

Apparently not.

If you can't see the answer is NO you are a fool of mailman proportions.


Acknowledge the objective facts you just reposted.

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:07 pm

If you can't see the answer is NO you are a fool of mailman proportions.

Acknowledge the objective facts you just reposted.

Right, mistress of the obvious 

Acknowledge the objective facts you just reposted.

how about some links?

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:12 pm

Right, mistress of the obvious 

how about some links?

Before I go to the work take a stand.

Are you saying the Jury did not reject the rape "charge"?

Are. you saying the Judge himself did interpret their decision as Trump did not commit rape?

Take a stand.  If you are unwilling to I will take that to mean you agree with me.

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 12:14 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:14 pm

Before I go to the work take a stand.

Are you saying the Jury did not reject the rape "charge"?

Are. you saying the Judge himself did interpret their decision as Trump did not commit rape?

Take a stand.  If you are unwilling to I will take that to mean you agree with me.

I am saying that you have no idea what you're talking about.

You never do.

Now post your links. 

Then I will stomp again.
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 12:17 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:17 pm

I am saying that you have no idea what you're talking about.

You never do.

Now post your links. 

Then I will stomp again.

Really.  You will admit you were wrong publicly and I was correct when I do.

This is what the Jury found, AS I POSTED:

When E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump went to trial last spring over her sexual assault allegations, a nine-person civil jury found that Trump sexually abused her but that she failed to prove he raped her.

This is what the Judge said, AS I POSTED:

Federal Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled in August that the jury verdict showed Carroll's rape allegation was "substantially true" and dismissed the counterclaim.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 295009007/


I was correct on the objective and you were wrong when you posted this:

I am saying that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Now post that I was correct and you were wrong.



 

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 12:22 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:22 pm

Really.  You will admit you were wrong publicly and I was correct when I do.

This is what the Jury found, AS I POSTED:

When E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump went to trial last spring over her sexual assault allegations, a nine-person civil jury found that Trump sexually abused her but that she failed to prove he raped her.

This is what the Judge said, AS I POSTED:

Federal Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled in August that the jury verdict showed Carroll's rape allegation was "substantially true" and dismissed the counterclaim.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 295009007/

I was correct on the objective and you were wrong when you posted this:

Now post that I was correct and you were wrong.

Read this slowly...


After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

 Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.

“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/

Why did the presiding judge offer his statement?
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:32 pm

Read this slowly...

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

 Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.

“This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/

Why did the presiding judge offer his statement?

Umm, you need to make that post now.  Even you just posted the jury did not say he committed rape.

And you posted that a judge made that ruling. 

AS I SAID. 

Now, I am gonna bump another question you are running from.

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:37 pm

Umm, you need to make that post now.  Even you just posted the jury did not say he committed rape.

And you posted that a judge made that ruling. 

AS I SAID. 

Now, I am gonna bump another question you are running from.

Tiny,

You lied.

Admit it.


 

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 9:01 am

THat is lie.  I refuse to answer questions where concerning comments you did not read, or used strike thru.  I also refuse to answer questions that you have asked dozen of times.

Mary, if you recall, I clearly marked part of that OPINION.  

1.  It is OBJECTIVE FACT the JURY rejected the rape "charge".

2.  It is OBJECTIVE FACT that the Judge stepped in to interpret the Jury's findings.

3.  It is OPINION as to why the Judge did so, as I pointed out in the original comment YOU DID NOT READ.

What else you got, Boston Coward.

@Blackvegetable  

You validated what I posted. Thank you for that.  Now admit you were wrong to say I did't know **** and that I was correct.

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:43 pm

@Blackvegetable  

You validated what I posted. Thank you for that.  Now admit you were wrong to say I did't know **** and that I was correct.

The filing from Judge Lewis A. Kaplan came as Trump’s attorneys have sought a new trial and have argued that the jury’s $5 million verdict against Trump in the civil suit was excessive. The reason, they argue, is that sexual abuse could be as limited as the “groping” of a victim’s breasts.


 Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

Ibid.

Why did Judge Kaplan make those comments?

   
 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:47 pm

The filing from Judge Lewis A. Kaplan came as Trump’s attorneys have sought a new trial and have argued that the jury’s $5 million verdict against Trump in the civil suit was excessive. The reason, they argue, is that sexual abuse could be as limited as the “groping” of a victim’s breasts.

 Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

Ibid.

Why did Judge Kaplan make those comments?

You need to a stand and explain your position.  I have and then you validated my comments.  I thank you for that.

No questions until you answer the one you are running from on you inflation thread.

But again, you validated the objective fact that the jury did not find Trump liable for rape.  And the is was a judge who said it was.  Exactly as I posted.

*Huey » 11 Jul 2024, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:50 pm

You need to a stand and explain your position.  I have and then you validated my comments.  I thank you for that.

No questions until you answer the one you are running from on you inflation thread.

But again, you validated the objective fact that the jury did not find Trump liable for rape.  And the is was a judge who said it was.  Exactly as I posted.

Are these your words?

Are. you saying the Judge himself did interpret their decision as Trump did not commit rape?

 

Blackvegetable » 11 Jul 2024, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 12:53 pm

Are these your words?

You tell me. Provide the entire post with a link.

This was about the objective facts I posted.  You are lying..  Now make your own case.