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Sumela » 11 Jul 2024, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:23 pm

Enough that they do as they are told or they get bombed, regime changed, or sanctioned   .
Only empire can do that.  Catch up.

Wrong , we've re-built countries after destroying them, I'd call that benevolent intervention.

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 3:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:10 pm

You are impotent? Yeah, this isn't that kind of OP. You can see a sex doc for that.

impotent /ĭm′pə-tənt/

1. Lacking physical strength or vigor; weak. 
2. Lacking in power, as to act effectively; helpless. 
3. Incapable of sexual intercourse because of an inability to achieve or sustain an erection. 

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I was referring to the second definition type.
You cyber-pervs are a caution. Or maybe you have a problem you need to address?

 https://youtu.be/PHwE71WVhQg?si=cwgesNxlOEfZw0ZY

DeezerShoove » 11 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:39 pm

impotent /ĭm′pə-tənt/

1. Lacking physical strength or vigor; weak. 
2. Lacking in power, as to act effectively; helpless. 
3. Incapable of sexual intercourse because of an inability to achieve or sustain an erection. 

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I was referring to the second definition type.
You cyber-pervs are a caution. Or maybe you have a problem you need to address?

 https://youtu.be/PHwE71WVhQg?si=cwgesNxlOEfZw0ZY

Yes, I know. I was messing with you.   

RebelGator » 11 Jul 2024, 3:31 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:31 pm

Wrong , we've re-built countries after destroying them, I'd call that benevolent intervention.

And why do you think we did that? 

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:45 pm

Yes, I know. I was messing with you. 

Ditto, Mr Softy.

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 3:46 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:46 pm

And why do you think we did that?

Strategic strengthening of alliance, a buffer zone of safety, and money was to be made.

RebelGator » 11 Jul 2024, 3:31 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:31 pm

Wrong , we've re-built countries after destroying them, I'd call that benevolent intervention.

Yer an idiot.  You LIB-Cheneys are all the same.  You LOOOOVE BIG GOVT.  
 

Yikes -

these BIG GOVT Libs are CREEPY....    

RebelGator » 11 Jul 2024, 3:31 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 3:31 pm

Wrong , we've re-built countries after destroying them, I'd call that benevolent intervention.

I bet Libya would disagree 
 

I found Jimmy Carr on YouTube a few years ago

he is all the rage in the UK and elsewhere 

his stand up has a lot of politics in it

his humor can get dark quick

I really enjoyed this interview 

smart man

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 1:06 pm

I have never considered this perspective and it makes sense. 

The roman empire never really fell. The city did, but not the empire. It just became a church. The Vatican, with a stash of money below it. The Vatican arguably has the same magnitude of power that the Roman Empire had. Different kind of power, but the magnitude and influence on the world is the same. 

Britain's empire never fell. It just became a bank. America broke free, but they kept the money and still has influence on the world. 

We consider America an empire. We say that our empire will soon end. However, what if the American empire already ended and we didn't know it. It isn't an empire, it's now the central headquarters for corporations that are running the world.

ONE HUGE EMPIRE YOU LEFT OUT: THE KHAZARIAN EMPIRE FROM THE LATE 6TH CENTURY WHOSE TENTACLES NEVER STOPPED GROWING AROUND EUROPE AND AMERICA

 

righteous » 11 Jul 2024, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 6:46 pm

ONE HUGE EMPIRE YOU LEFT OUT: THE KHAZARIAN EMPIRE FROM THE LATE 6TH CENTURY WHOSE TENTACLES NEVER STOPPED GROWING AROUND EUROPE AND AMERICA

True. Good point. 

Mrkelly » 11 Jul 2024, 6:28 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 6:28 pm

I found Jimmy Carr on YouTube a few years ago

he is all the rage in the UK and elsewhere 

his stand up has a lot of politics in it

his humor can get dark quick

I really enjoyed this interview 

smart man

He is a pretty smart guy. I like his routines. 

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 6:47 pm

True. Good point.

YOU WERE SPOT ON WITH THE OTHERS
 

righteous » 11 Jul 2024, 6:49 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 6:49 pm

YOU WERE SPOT ON WITH THE OTHERS

Another perspective I carry is how the government uses corporations to oppress the people. Notice that the Bill of Rights only enumerates our rights with respect to the 'government.' It ensures that the government cannot over reach it's limits. However, it doesn't say anything about citizens oppressing other citizens. Corps are run by citizens.  The government partnering up with corps allows the government to control the mass through another entity. The corps get all sorts of benefits from the government and in return the government gets to hide in their pockets to control us. And it's all legal. 

It's a well designed and well executed plan. It works. 

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 1:06 pm

I have never considered this perspective and it makes sense. 

The roman empire never really fell. The city did, but not the empire. It just became a church. The Vatican, with a stash of money below it. The Vatican arguably has the same magnitude of power that the Roman Empire had. Different kind of power, but the magnitude and influence on the world is the same. 

Britain's empire never fell. It just became a bank. America broke free, but they kept the money and still has influence on the world. 

We consider America an empire. We say that our empire will soon end. However, what if the American empire already ended and we didn't know it. It isn't an empire, it's now the central headquarters for corporations that are running the world.

Romans were a people. An ethnic group. Traditionally they were not really Christian and the roman empire only became Christian after the roman people no longer controlled it. I would say the empire itself died around 200 ad when emperor Caracella decided that anyone can be roman. The conquest of Rome in 410 was just a natural direct consequence of that because nobody felt the empire was really theirs anymore so there was no reason to defend it.

The fact an institution, like the church, can appear before an empire is dead and continues to last after its extinction does not imply that there is any meaningful connection between the two. In fact, Rome is not given much respect by the Christian religion. 
 
 

Mrkelly » 11 Jul 2024, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 5:54 pm

I bet Libya would disagree

....and Syria, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, ad nauseum 

Rebel is the epitome of a redneck moron.
 

Sumela » 11 Jul 2024, 7:46 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 7:46 pm

....and Syria, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, ad nauseum 

Rebel is the epitome of a redneck moron.

You give me a lot of credit, inasmuch as I've never been to any of those countries. You flail around like an octopus with one tentacle, squirting ink when you get stepped on.....   

Vegas » 11 Jul 2024, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 2:06 pm

Good question. I can't say much about Russia, but China's companies are ranked 6th in the world on the Fortune 500. Russia isn't in the top 10. America is first with a revenue of 7.7 Trillion. The second is Japan at 2.6 Trillion. China at 1.1 trillion. That also shows how America can be considered the central headquarter for corporations. 

https://chinapower.csis.org/chinese-com ... lobal-500/

I believe those numbers are ****, just so ya know. PPP being what it is, those chinee companies are out producing everyone.
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Jul 2024, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2024, 1:08 pm

That is some seriously heavy **** right there.