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31stArrival » 15 Jul 2024, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 4:33 pm

Wrong issues anyway.

Yes, and they are also among the most common.  Fortunately he was not old enough for Vietnam so we won't have to listen to that tripe.  He is not from a rich family so we won't have to hear that crap.  He was not given anything and was not a legacy admission. 

Sumela » 15 Jul 2024, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 4:10 pm

""Slave Coast"...wtf?

Yeah, some weird ****.
Ethiopia on that side of Africa? How big was that place at one time?

*Huey » 15 Jul 2024, 4:46 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 4:46 pm

Yes, and they are also among the most common.  Fortunately he was not old enough for Vietnam so we won't have to listen to that tripe.  He is not from a rich family so we won't have to hear that crap.  He was not given anything and was not a legacy admission.

Mary is silent. Mary is terrified.
Mary knows Trump will be his President again
 

BuckNaked » 15 Jul 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 2:56 pm

Was hoping for a female or a minority

Yea... I liked Nikki Haley, and Ben Carson... but J.D. Vance is a heck of a guy, I like him, and have NO PROBLEM with him as the candidate !!

BUT, I see so many others who CAN and WILL make GREAT leaders within the MAGA Movement... AND who WILL... "MAKE America GREAT AGAIN" !!

DeezerShoove » 15 Jul 2024, 8:30 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 8:30 pm

Yeah, some weird ****.
Ethiopia on that side of Africa? How big was that place at one time?

Sir, I did some research.  That map is from 1736.

Not much has changed.

In 2002, the Middle East was called....the Oil/Gas Coast (   ).

Seems colonialism simply became neo-colonialism.
 

ConservativeWave » 15 Jul 2024, 8:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 8:42 pm

Yea... I liked Nikki Haley, and Ben Carson... but J.D. Vance is a heck of a guy, I like him, and have NO PROBLEM with him as the candidate !!
 

Well, that settles it.

I hate him.
 

Sumela » 15 Jul 2024, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 8:57 pm

Sir, I did some research.  That map is from 1736.

Not much has changed.

In 2002, the Middle East was called....the Oil/Gas Coast (   ).

Seems colonialism simply became neo-colonialism.

How can these both be true? For instance: India.
Empires overlapping? Weird.

BuckNaked » 15 Jul 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 2:56 pm

Was hoping for a female or a minority

I was hoping for Virginia Gov Youngkin... thought he could bring along Virginia, but Vance will be good. 
 

DeezerShoove » 15 Jul 2024, 9:08 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 9:08 pm

How can these both be true? For instance: India.
Empires overlapping? Weird.

You mean the British empire I think....
 

*Nucleus » 15 Jul 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 2:51 pm

Donald Trump received enough convention delegate votes to become the Republican presidential nominee.

In a post on Truth Social, the former president wrote that "after lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio."Vance, a 39-year-old who grew up in Kentucky and Ohio, has served as a junior U.S. senator in Ohio since 2023 and rose to prominence in 2016 with his memoir Hillbilly Elegy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/rnc-202 ... 11147.html

Gonna watch the film tonight - Ron Howard directed it. 
 

*Nucleus » 15 Jul 2024, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 3:37 pm

What are his stances on the issues?
Abortion: Vance describes himself on his campaign website as "100% pro-life" and has argued against rape and incest exceptions for abortion laws. He has specified that he does think there should be exceptions if the mother's life is in danger. He praised the U.S. Supreme Court for overturning Roe v. Wade and agreed with Trump that there shouldn't be a national abortion ban but that it should be left up to the states.

Climate change: Vance does not believe the climate crisis exists and has called electric vehicle production a “scam.” He is a strong supporter of the oil and gas industry and opposes wind and solar energy sources.

2020 election results: Vance has asserted that he believes Trump won the 2020 presidential election. He told ABC News in February that if he were vice president at the time instead of Mike Pence, he would not have certified the election results.

January 6: Vance has dismissed the idea that Trump was responsible for instigating the Capitol building attack.

Immigration: Similar to Trump, Vance wants to finish building a border wall and has said he opposes "every attempt to grant amnesty" to immigrants who come to the U.S. illegally.

LGBTQ rights: Vance opposed a bill protecting gay and interracial marriage rights. He describes gender-affirming care for minors as “gruesome, irreversible operations.”

Military aid: Vance has openly been critical of the U.S. sending military aid to Ukraine. In an interview with former Trump advisor Steve Bannon, Vance said, "I’ve got to be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other.” Vance has supported sending more funding to Israel amid the Israel-Hamas war.

Wowza. I agree with every stance.

I am pro-choice, but I agree that it should be left to the states.
 

Sumela » 15 Jul 2024, 9:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 9:23 pm

You mean the British empire I think....

Yeah but he showed an alleged "ethiopian nigpire" map - he's calling **** on hysterical revisionism to pretend that nigs once had an umpire.

Cannonpointer » 15 Jul 2024, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 9:44 pm

Yeah but he showed an alleged "ethiopian nigpire" map - he's calling **** on hysterical revisionism to pretend that nigs once had an umpire.

Nigpire?   

I like Deezy. He just has an aversion to living in the present.
Its always ""yah we suck, but er'body has sucked""
 
Its simply lazy analysis.
 

Sumela » 15 Jul 2024, 9:54 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 9:54 pm

Nigpire?   

I like Deezy. He just has an aversion to living in the present.
Its always ""yah we suck, but er'body has sucked""
 
Its simply lazy analysis.

Yeah, I get a lot of that from him. The equivalencies and such. 

But in this instance, look at his post. He is actually calling **** on a couple of maps that call each other liars.

Now, I don't have any idea the provenance of the nigpire map, but I know absolute **** when I see it. Whoever dummied that up should have put it back before the middle ages to try and hoodwink the gullible. 

What would make the map **** ANYWAY is the lack of african american genetics in australia. The bush *** there are nothing at all like the african american bush *** in ethiopia. They're closer to polynesians than they are to ethiopians. Even If they had dated their fake empire so as not to collide with recent, well settled history, I would still raise a white, patrician, racially superior eyebrow at the claim.

Admittedly, I've had no opportunities to make a phrenological exam of any australian bush people's skulls, so I am basing my argument on my excellent prowess in the field of guessing about stuff. But I'm pretty sure there has never been any nigpire of the sort of note that the afore-mention map showed.

Also, I've taken classes in the history of civilization, and while there HAVE been subsaharan empires of a sort, they were short lived, relatively inglorious, and contained to the continent. 
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 15 Jul 2024, 10:12 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 10:12 pm

Yeah, I get a lot of that from him. The equivalencies and such. 

But in this instance, look at his post. He is actually calling **** on a couple of maps that call each other liars.

Now, I don't have any idea the provenance of the nigpire map, but I know absolute **** when I see it. Whoever dummied that up should have put it back before the middle ages to try and hoodwink the gullible. 

What would make the map **** ANYWAY is the lack of african american genetics in australia. The bush *** there are nothing at all like the african american bush *** in ethiopia. They're closer to polynesians than they are to ethiopians. Even If they had dated their fake empire so as not to collide with recent, well settled history, I would still raise a white, patrician, racially superior eyebrow at the claim.

Admittedly, I've had no opportunities to make a phrenological exam of any australian bush people's skulls, so I am basing my argument on my excellent prowess in the field of guessing about stuff. But I'm pretty sure there has never been any nigpire of the sort of note that the afore-mention map showed.

Also, I've taken classes in the history of civiliation - and while there HAVE been subsaharan empires of a sort, they were short lived, relatively inglorious, and contained to the continent.

Meanwhile....the Trump camp continues to demonize China and Iran.

Let the games begin....
 
 

Sumela » 15 Jul 2024, 9:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 9:23 pm

You mean the British empire I think....

Well, both British and Ethiopian empires controlling the Indian Sub-continent at the same time...
That's what I was referring to. I wondered how big the Ethiopian map was and it led to this oddity.

DeezerShoove » 15 Jul 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 11:05 pm

Well, both British and Ethiopian empires controlling the Indian Sub-continent at the same time...
That's what I was referring to. I wondered how big the Ethiopian map was and it led to this oddity.

You found some **** for sure. There was no such ethiopian empire, of course.   
 

DeezerShoove » 15 Jul 2024, 11:05 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 11:05 pm

Well, both British and Ethiopian empires controlling the Indian Sub-continent at the same time...
That's what I was referring to. I wondered how big the Ethiopian map was and it led to this oddity.

The "oddity" is at the feet of historical revisionists, IMO.
 

*Huey » 15 Jul 2024, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 2:57 pm

From out lefties here they obviously can't go after his age.  They can't claim he dodged military service.  He was a marine as combat correspondent.  They can't go after his education because he is Yale Law School graduate.

But I can see a couple of them going after his upbringing.

Funnily, just after joe says the rhetoric needs to be toned down, his campaign released all of the talking points to go after Trump /Vance...  

Now that Donald Trump has announced Sen. JD Vance as his running mate, the Biden campaign is prepared to paint Vance, R-Ohio, as “extreme” and merely an extension of Trump's own positions and record, according to two people familiar with the re-election effort’s thinking.Vance’s position on abortion will be a top issue the Biden campaign highlights, these people said, as well as his views on accepting the results of the 2024 election regardless of who wins.“That’s the ultimate Donald Trump litmus test,” one of the people familiar with the campaign’s thinking said.

Biden campaign officials also plan to remind voters of disparaging comments Vance has made about Trump in the past, according to the people familiar with the campaign’s thinking. Vance, for instance, called Trump “unfit for our nation’s highest office” in a New York Times op-ed in 2016. The campaign's rapid response director pointed out a Fox News graphic with some of Vance's past attacks on Trump, including comparing him to Hitler.

The strategy is designed to try to diminish the possibility that Trump’s choice could help him win over undecided voters or make inroads with constituencies his campaign hopes he’ll do better with this year than four years ago.In an official statement, Biden campaign chair Jen O’Malley Dillon highlighted Vance’s opposition to abortion rights and the Affordable Care Act and said he would help Trump enact Project 2025, a right-wing plan for a second Trump term.

“Donald Trump picked J.D. Vance as his running mate because Vance will do what Mike Pence wouldn’t on January 6: bend over backwards to enable Trump and his extreme MAGA agenda, even if it means breaking the law and no matter the harm to the American people,” O’Malley Dillon said.

Vice President Kamala Harris previewed the main theme of the campaign’s approach in an interview with MSNBC, calling whomever Trump chooses a “rubber stamp” for his agenda.

“I think it’s clear there’s a litmus test. And he is going to pick someone who will be more loyal to him than to their country,” Harris said.Harris advisers say she isn’t planning to directly engage with the new Republican vice presidential candidate, instead keeping her focus on the person leading the ticket. But they said she has already begun preparing for the vice presidential debate, even though two of the most important factors — when it will occur and who her opponent will be — were still to be determined.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-e ... rcna158844
 
 

DeezerShoove » 15 Jul 2024, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jul 2024, 3:51 pm

Just as Caucasians flourish there, ****** are flourishing in . . . Liberia?