Starting to rethink the benefits of capitalism.

By *Vegas
25 Jul 2024 7:26 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Cannonpointer » 25 Jul 2024, 11:59 pm » wrote: ↑ This is incorrect thinking. You might as well argue that a rough diamond isn't made more valuable by the fellow who cuts and polishes it. 

The intelligent man can venture his capital in such a way that he can get value from a retard. For example, a restaurant might hire a retard to wash dishes - or a detail shop might arm a retard with cleaning supplies and have him detail customers' automobiles. The retard would be utterly hopeless without the organizing prowess and the capital investment of the businessman. The businessman has every right to make a profit on the labor of the fellow he employed. There is no injustice in that. 

The relationship only becomes unjust when coercion is involved - and in the US, the coercion is enforced by the government strictly limiting options.

I am not necessarily saying it is unjust to profit off someone's labor. I am saying that it is impossible to ever be paid what you are worth. Our worth is decided by the market which in return is exploited by the employer. Just or unjust? I don't know. I know that it would be impossible to profit if you paid employees more than what the market says they are worth. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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Cannonpointer » 25 Jul 2024, 11:55 pm » wrote: ↑ Use the PG feature duh.

I remembered that after it was too late...or actually I remembered after he posted. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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You're the one always whining about "thoughts", Level 0.27

I'm telling you what I think of your Level 0.27 chindribble.
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Blackvegetable » 26 Jul 2024, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑ You're the one always whining about "thoughts", Level 0.27

I'm telling you what I think of your Level 0.27 chindribble.
You are assuming that I or anyone else gives a **** about your opinion on anything.  Image  
 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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*Vegas » 26 Jul 2024, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑ You are assuming that I or anyone else gives a **** about your opinion on anything.  Image

I've got 250 pages of Notifications that say different.
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*Vegas » 26 Jul 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑ I am not necessarily saying it is unjust to profit off someone's labor. I am saying that it is impossible to ever be paid what you are worth. 
False.

Run your own gig. 

I did that and made excellent money, but I was a one man show, and the gig required me to live a life style to which I was not committed - out all night in the clubs. So I went to work for someone else. 
 
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"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

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*Vegas » 26 Jul 2024, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑ I remembered that after it was too late...or actually I remembered after he posted.
Sometimes if you remember right after you hit post, and before anyone has entered the thread, you can back arrow and apply PG.

But if a rat gets to **** in your thread first, you're out of luck. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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*Vegas » 26 Jul 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑ I am not necessarily saying it is unjust to profit off someone's labor. I am saying that it is impossible to ever be paid what you are worth. Our worth is decided by the market which in return is exploited by the employer. Just or unjust? I don't know. I know that it would be impossible to profit if you paid employees more than what the market says they are worth. 
What is the market based upon? willingness to buy into ideas life isn't self evident genetics actually eternally separates each reproduction alive daily. Isn't that how rank acquires privilege of power, wealth, fame leading people to believe tomorrow is not simply just another rotation with equally evolving at the same time since conceived into living changing generation gaps cradle to grave depending upon having parented another generation of one's own time as evolved since conceived.

So many facts created historically with everyone celebrating their day of birth and the courts legally define life starting day of birth, not event conceived 0-9 months before counting rotations after birth showing equal time evolving regardless past generations or current generation gaps living. America was the first nation since dawn of civilization that even hinted genetics keeps ancestors equally timed apart daily. 4 score and 7 years later nobody remembered.

the one fact defining life begins is day of birth, not conception and all generation gaps in every alternate reality believes that is true and never was accurate. When did Darwinism begin to be competition for mythology and religion? 19th century AD.
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Blackvegetable » 26 Jul 2024, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑ I've got 250 pages of Notifications that say different.

You have 250 pages of notifications of me humiliating you because it was fun. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

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*Vegas » 26 Jul 2024, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ You have 250 pages of notifications of me humiliating you because it was fun.
No, because you are an obsessed loser.
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Blackvegetable » 26 Jul 2024, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑ No, because you are an obsessed loser.

Which one of us creeps around in each other's profiles regularly? 

QED. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
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*Vegas » 25 Jul 2024, 7:25 pm » wrote: ↑ Hopefully someone else can get the crayons out for @Blackvegetable  . There is no way he will have the intellectual capacity to understand this. It's also longer than 5 words, so we know he isn't going to read it anyway. 

I hear a lot from the die hard Republicans and conservatives that in capitalism, we have choice. It provides a mutually beneficial contract between the employer and employee. Incorrect. It is inherently built to only benefit the employer while the employee gets ripped off. Here is why:

To keep it simple, let's just use an easy number. Let's say an employer buys something for $1.00 and he wants to turn it around and sell it for a profit. He obviously isn't going to sell it for less than a dollar, nor is he going to sell it for exactly a dollar. He must sell it for more than what he paid. This is no different with labor. If an employer pays an employee $15 an hour in exchange for the employee's time and labor, then for that employer, the employee must in return produce an output that is worth more than $15/hr. Maybe the employer wants $20/hr worth of output. If an employee doesn't not produce a value worth more than what they are paid, then the employer is cutting a loss. 

Therefore, in a capitalist society, there is no such thing as paying someone what they are worth. The system is inherently built to pay the employee less than what they are worth, as to not risk breaking even or losing money.
Respect sir.  A very well thought out and presented post.   :clap:  

But thatll only earn you trolling here by the libtards and contards.
Weak people sadly NEED a team by any mean necessary.  Its embarrassing.

West style Capitalism/Imperialism/Empire is a vampire -
at home (neoliberalism/austerity/massive wealth gaps) and abroad (neoconservatism/imperialism/war).
Thats why nearly ALL in DC are owned by the MIC and AIPAC.
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Blackvegetable » 26 Jul 2024, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑ No, because you are an obsessed loser.
KOOLS is angry again today.
A lost Estabie negro. :LOL:  
Yaaa Massas Biden And Nettiyahu.
 
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FOS » 26 Jul 2024, 7:21 am » wrote: ↑ well of course imo the best system is national socialism. Because I think ultimately the most fundamental aspect of identity rests on having common ancestry. People care about their family more than other families, and this tribalism is universal and is the biological source of altruism. So if serving Germany becomes the same as serving the German people, people will be loyal and perform their duty happily...just as a parent performs their duty for their children.

If, instead, citizens in a government are supposed to share some abstraction, such as 'common principles' or even 'common religion' or some economic zone like 'we all use USD', then there becomes a separation between the people's intrinsic identity and the government. That is simply less stable as a society and it is lower in trust and altruism.
Other than parents performing their duty for their children, which is a rarity these days… seems legit…

 
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Blackvegetable » 26 Jul 2024, 6:31 am » wrote: ↑ Why does this **** keep posting crap like this?

 
NO QUESTIONS, DICK SUCKER!

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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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LowIQTrash » 26 Jul 2024, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑ Other than parents performing their duty for their children, which is a rarity these days… seems legit…

lol well it still happens more often than not. For sure, most people care more about their own children than the children of some stranger
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FOS » 26 Jul 2024, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑ lol well it still happens more often than not. For sure, most people care more about their own children than the children of some stranger
But you like your dogs more. Do I am an american, I am ashame for myself to you. You have fail your schools, and your schools have fail you. In any civilize society, you would be sold by the kilo as meat in the public market place. 

You are pet your dogs and beat your children. You should beat your dogs and pet your children. American are very bad. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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My brain interprets capitalism as an economic system that requires everyone alive to keep their own balancing time adapting as equally displaced birth to dead even though an entire life cycle is conceived to decomposed now.

too many intellectual minds created a system of capitalizing off reasonable doubt that become institutionalized rationing ideas to fit a local narrative supporting mob rules for all 5 generation gaps living eternally separated daily.

When humans choose to be honest about life balancing with each heartbeat of every lifetime living at the same time never same total sum again collectively, then the competition to eliminate others because they equally exist now, is a simple wrong way to maintain life here practiced by every ancestral lineage living this rotation.

Stop doing that by choice, all the reverse psychology corruption corrects itself forward day in and day out. Life is a balancing point of living eternally separated each rotation alive native to one universal location geographically even in the atmosphere intellectually graphed by longitude relative time logistics and temperate zones latitude zero degrees is the equator and oppose poles are polarity shifts each solstice balancing out each equinox per revolution around the star.
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