According to the left, if a man wants the child he helped create, and the woman wants no part of it, then she can kill his offspring, in utero, against his wishes.
*rippy38 » 28 Jul 2024, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑ According to the left, if a man wants the child he helped create, and the woman wants no part of it, then she can kill his offspring, in utero, against his wishes.
So much for inclusivity.
It’s not his body*rippy38 » 28 Jul 2024, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑ According to the left, if a man wants the child he helped create, and the woman wants no part of it, then she can kill his offspring, in utero, against his wishes.
So much for inclusivity.
But it is his kid.
Sure.DeezerShoove » 28 Jul 2024, 8:46 pm » wrote: ↑ Do men really want the child the mother would discard?
They want to control the mom. The baby presents a vehicle for that.DeezerShoove » 28 Jul 2024, 8:46 pm » wrote: ↑ Do men really want the child the mother would discard?
No.
I'll wager you didn't raise any that she aborted.*rippy38 » 28 Jul 2024, 10:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Sure.
I raised mine after their piece of **** mom ducked out.
Right...*rippy38 » 28 Jul 2024, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑ According to the left, if a man wants the child he helped create, and the woman wants no part of it, then she can kill his offspring, in utero, against his wishes.
So much for inclusivity.
So then, the father can opt completely of having anything to with the kid emotionally or financially if he doesn't want it.Cannonpointer » 29 Jul 2024, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑ No.
It is not his kid.
It's her kid, until it is born.
IF it is born.
Wait, wait - let me google and make sure.
Yup. I googled it. The answer to your argument is no.
Walk it off, son. It's no.
*rippy38 » 29 Jul 2024, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑ So then, the father can opt completely of having anything to with the kid emotionally or financially if he doesn't want it.
Since it's her kid.
That would certainly be equitable, and it is something that I would support. I would go Old Testament, and have the method of disownership be something along the lines of telling her in front of 3 witnesses, "I abort you, I abort you, I abort you." Upon that witnessed utterance and the deliverance of sufficient funds to pay for an abortion, the father would be a father no more.*rippy38 » 29 Jul 2024, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑ So then, the father can opt completely of having anything to with the kid emotionally or financially if he doesn't want it.
Since it's her kid.
That's a decent answer.Cannonpointer » 29 Jul 2024, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑ They want to control the mom. The baby presents a vehicle for that.
Yes it is. Bigot! Trans men matter!
If you can outlaw abortion and force her to term, that's about as controlling as it gets.DeezerShoove » 29 Jul 2024, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑ That's a decent answer.
But my misanthropic side pushes me away from such thinking:
You see, if a mother was going to off the baby anyway,
it doesn't seem to be a very powerful motivator for control of said "mother".