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ROG62 » 08 Aug 2024, 6:53 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 6:53 am

A smart woman... :lol:  

Again, when I heard her say that, I hadn't put my brain in sync with humanity yet. that didn't happen for another for another 4 decades. But between then and the point I stood up against humanity came in the middle of those 40 years on dec. 31, 1982.
Black Friday 2006 I started using cyberspace message board with the screen name bloodless Armageddon. Within 6 months Jesuit Priests brought back the hidden manuscript of Nostradamus' unpublished book.

That is where I came up with changing my screen name to mirror the one male prophecy. See I wasn't misled to believe I was given the title, I had to earn it.

Cedar » 07 Aug 2024, 11:13 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 11:13 pm

I didn’t even notice when I posted the video but check out the SS agent on Vance’s left side. Look familiar?

Oh ****! 

It's fat holster lady!

Man, they don't let up. DEI uber alles.
 
 

maineman » 07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm

so... you could very easily go get proof...but somehow, you just can't quite find the cojones to do so?  Wow.  I am really surprised by THAT!!!

Here is proof that he is lying about his credentials. Time to boy up, son. 

https://x.com/SteveGuest/status/1821392 ... Ft%3D89750
 

maineman » 07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm

so... you could very easily go get proof...but somehow, you just can't quite find the cojones to do so?  Wow.  I am really surprised by THAT!!!

Here AGAIN is him declaring he carried weapons of war in a war zone. It is on YOU to prove the assertion that Italy was within reach of Taliban shelling - not on ME to prove the negative. 

Time to boy up, son.

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/182091806 ... e-n2177857

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2024, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 1:42 pm

US Sanctions are a finite and rapidly diminishing commodity. 

They were once the gold standard. They no longer are. Look at Russia.  

The empire is imploding, and instead of celebrating this fact - as you should, for it presages the possibility of our return to a republic, - you cling to the old neocon, globalist way of thinking which Trump rejects. You go on and on about Trump, but each post makes it clear you do not understand the forces that brought him to prominence or the role he is destined to play in the  dissolution of empire. 

Whether they manage to murder Trump or imprison him, or whether Trump becomes POTUS in 2025, the empire IS going to collapse as all empires do. That coming collapse SHOULD be manifest to you from the pride flag flying over our embassies, the literal neutering of our own troops and the teaching of oral and anal sex to prepubescent children in schools.

The Russian economy has grown despite the sanctions placed on their oil because the US and others continue to buy it from them.
Here are the facts:

Bombshell: Biden Pentagon Exposed for Buying Russian Fuel Oil, Evading Wartime Sanctions - Report 
WSJ By Bryan Chai  11/18/23
A blistering exposé from The Washington Post is casting new aspersions on the oversight — or lack thereof — stemming from President Biden’s administration.

“Forbidden Russian oil flows into the Pentagon supply chain,” the ominous, exclusive report warned readers right off the bat.

Russian oil imports were banned by the US and the European Union in Mar. 2022 as a response to the country’s war with Ukraine.
A Greek refinery that serves the US military claimed it adapted to these new sanctions — but apparently did not.
The Motor Oil Hellas refinery in Greece is at the center of this Washington Post investigation, and the company stands accused of continuing to pump Russian petroleum in spite of those sanctions.

 

Exclusive: India can buy as much Russian oil as it wants, outside price cap, Yellen says
Reuters By David Lawder 11/13/22

 

Rising flow of Russian oil products to China, India and the Middle East
By Clyde Russell Feb. 16, 2022

Other countries can't be expected to abide by sanctions when Biden himself ignores them.  If he hadn't curtailed the oil production in the US and killed the Keystone pipeline, WE could have sold our surplus to any of those countries instead.  It was a a weak and foolish policy of Biden once again that caused the sanctions to fail.

And no, I don't believe for a second that our system is imploding and dying. We're suffering through this downturn because of the policies of Biden and Obama, and it CAN AND WILL be turned around once Trump gets back in office with a Republican Congress that does not have the same animus towards him as they did in his first term.  Undoing the reversals that Biden made with EO's will be done in the first hours of the new administration, including the immediate closing of the border that will put this country back on track within months.  Trump will eliminate the idiotic policies of the LGBTQ crowd, their Pride flag agenda, and outlaw the teaching of gender fluidity to children.  We will NOT put tampon machines in boys bathrooms under Trump as Walz has, and the idiotic wasteful spending of policies like this that cost $2 million to implement will show the country how 2 buffoons like Harris and Walz are  ill-equipped to run the country. 

We'll have to wait till this time next year to see which of us is correct. 

 
 

maineman » 07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm

so... you could very easily go get proof...but somehow, you just can't quite find the cojones to do so?  Wow.  I am really surprised by THAT!!!

Here is a press release from his campaign acknowledging he knew in the middle of march he was being called up - BEFORE he retired as NOT a sergeant major. Time to boy up.

https://x.com/DC_Reporter/status/182134 ... d-n2643127
 

maineman » 07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 8:45 pm

so... you could very easily go get proof...but somehow, you just can't quite find the cojones to do so?  Wow.  I am really surprised by THAT!!!

Looks like I found the cojones, ******. On all three issues. His stolen valor in claiming to be a combat vet. His strategic withdrawal to avoid deployment to Iraq. His overstating of his rank upon severance from the military. 

All three. 

Your turn. 

Boy up. Time to show the board you have the capacity tell the truth when utterly cornered. Or can you JUST NOT "find the cojones" to do so?
 

BooRadley » 06 Aug 2024, 5:07 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2024, 5:07 pm

Seriously?

 

Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2024, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:52 am

Looks like I found the cojones, ******. On all three issues. His stolen valor in claiming to be a combat vet. His strategic withdrawal to avoid deployment to Iraq. His overstating of his rank upon severance from the military. 

All three. 

Your turn. 

Boy up. Time to show the board you have the capacity tell the truth when utterly cornered. Or can you JUST NOT "find the cojones" to do so?

Walz misspoke about carrying weapons of war IN a war.  I am sure he regrets it.  He left the National Guard to serve America in a different way.   And he decided to leave before the word came down that his unit would deploy.  24 years is plenty enough. He has faced his constituents seven times as a congressional candidate and twice as a gubernatorial candidate.  I would suggest that if there were any real meat on your "stolen valor" claim, the citizens of Minnesota would have noticed it.

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am

...because the US and others continue to buy it from them.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I said US sanctions are losing their impact.
YOU said yeah bucuz...

So we AGREE. US sanctions aren't worth a **** anymore. Even the PENTAGON is incapable of enforcing them.

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am

Other countries can't be expected to abide by sanctions

More true than ever. THE MORE WE USE THEM THE WEAKER THEY GET. And we've over-used them. They are a finite and diminishing commodity. People get weary. Others are more and more inclined to cheat, and increasingly to just tell us to **** ourselves.

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am

when Biden himself ignores them.

Yeah, that is another of many nails in the coffin.

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am

f he hadn't curtailed the oil production in the US and killed the Keystone pipeline,

Just so you know, the Keystone XL has never carried one drop of oil under any president. It is a critical piece of infrastructure that threatens warren buffet's monopoly carrying the world's dirtiest crude by means of the world's riskiest carbon fuel transport: rail. He owns the BNSF. 

Delaying the Keystone to help a democrat power broker did not take one drop of oil out of America's energy production - just made hauling it riskier and more expensive and worse for the environment.

And the U.S. HAS PRODUCED MORE OIL UNDER BIDEN THAN UNDER TRUMP. So that is not a reason we failed to enforce sanctions. You're opening a NEW argument - the why of it. And you're doing badly. You're claiming false reasons. The Keystone XL never carried oil. And oil is in greater production now than ever.

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am

And no, I don't believe for a second that our system is imploding and dying. We're suffering through this downturn because of the policies of Biden and Obama, and it CAN AND WILL be turned around once Trump gets back in office with a Republican Congress that does not have the same animus towards him as they did in his first term.

Oh it won't? Gosh why not?

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 9:38 am

Undoing the reversals that Biden made with EO's will be done in the first hours of the new administration, including the immediate closing of the border that will put this country back on track within months.  Trump will eliminate the idiotic policies of the LGBTQ crowd, their Pride flag agenda, and outlaw the teaching of gender fluidity to children.  We will NOT put tampon machines in boys bathrooms under Trump as Walz has, and the idiotic wasteful spending of policies like this that cost $2 million to implement will show the country how 2 buffoons like Harris and Walz are  ill-equipped to run the country.

He's one guy and is liberal on the trans ****. He won't even be ABLE to stop the trans agenda if he wants to - the corrupt SCOTUS is going to do its masters' bidding and say these men have a Constitutional "right" to invade women's showers and sports, and women have no rights.

And none of this impinges at all on the fact that US sanctions are no longer worth a ****. No one cares. The card was overplayed, and it was DISHONESTLY played. We have not been an honest sanctions broker this century, and the world is simply weary of pretending along with a foreign policy designed not to be the world's police but to be its mafia don.
 
 

maineman » 08 Aug 2024, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 10:20 am

Walz misspoke about carrying weapons of war IN a war. I am sure he regrets it.

So, you have officially abandoned the lie that Italy was part of the Afghanistan Theater of Operations, then? Final answer on that? Italy does NOT border Afghanistan and was NOT conceivably reachable by the Taliban's offensive maneuvers? You've done your due diligence there?

"Misspoke." Like I "misspoke" about my Baby SEAL deployment back in '62.

There's mealy-mouthing number one. Go.

maineman » 08 Aug 2024, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 10:20 am

He left the National Guard to serve America in a different way.   And he decided to leave before the word came down that his unit would deploy.  24 years is plenty enough.

I proved to you he knew they were being deployed, with his OWN PRESS RELEASE saying he expected to be deployed and would run his political campaign from Iraq.

So there is mealy mouthing number two.

maineman » 08 Aug 2024, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 10:20 am

He has faced his constituents seven times as a congressional candidate and twice as a gubernatorial candidate.  I would suggest that if there were any real meat on your "stolen valor" claim, the citizens of Minnesota would have noticed it.

So, if the citizens of MINNESOTA overlooked his lie about his rank upon retirement and his being a combat vet, then it should not be an issue in NATIONAL politics?

What if he had been the mayor of a town? Would that TOWN overlooking it mean he is vetted for the national stage? If not, why not?

That's mealy mouthing number three, fruitcake. You have graduated from being merely a child danger. Now you're a stolen valor boy, to boot.

You ran your mouth. You challenged my cojones. And you got served. And you showed your truth. Thank you for that bit of stupidity and cravenness. It's nice to put a tab on the folder. 

 

RebelGator » 08 Aug 2024, 5:26 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 5:26 am

Compared to you who wants to bomb Jews and Jesus for the world?

Naww, Id prefer to watch the Socialist State of Pissrael implode, which is happening.  
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2024, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 10:31 am

So we AGREE. US sanctions aren't worth a **** anymore. Even the PENTAGON is incapable of enforcing them.

More true than ever. THE MORE WE USE THEM THE WEAKER THEY GET. And we've over-used them. They are a finite and diminishing commodity. People get weary. Others are more and more inclined to cheat, and increasingly to just tell us to **** ourselves. 

Delaying the Keystone to help a democrat power broker did not take one drop of oil out of America's energy production - just made hauling it riskier and more expensive and worse for the environment.

And the U.S. HAS PRODUCED MORE OIL UNDER BIDEN THAN UNDER TRUMP. So that is not a reason we failed to enforce sanctions. You're opening a NEW argument - the why of it. And you're doing badly. You're claiming false reasons. The Keystone XL never carried oil. And oil is in greater production now than ever.

Oh it won't? Gosh why not?

He's one guy and is liberal on the trans ****. He won't even be ABLE to stop the trans agenda if he wants to - the corrupt SCOTUS is going to do its masters' bidding and say these men have a Constitutional "right" to invade women's showers and sports, and women have no rights.

What we DON'T agree on is the reason WHY sanctions are losing their impact.  You seem to think that it has nothing to do with the weakness of Biden, while I blame him and Obama for it completely.  And it's NOT because sanctions are overused.  If we had a strong leader like Trump, he would NOT have permitted the Pentagon to buy oil from Russia and he would have demanded that other countries are held to them as well.  Few would dare tell us to go **** ourselves because they know there would be consequences for doing so under Trump.  NO ONE is worried about Biden's reaction if they refuse to honor them.

And it doesn't matter one iota WHERE the oil from Keystone was sold to.  Those 830,000 barrels of oil PER DAY that it would have provided would have been bought by other countries, lowering the price of Russian and Iranian oil based solely on the laws of supply and demand.  And the fact that Biden has allowed the increased oil production over Trump doesn't mean that the cost of harvesting that oil would have been the same had Biden not invoked piles of new regulations on that oil production, which ALWAYS raises the cost at the pump to American consumers.  The cost of producing oil IS NOT uniform regardless of where it is drilled from.  Removing off-shore drilling, restricting fracking, suspending drilling on existing contracts and restricting oil and gas fracking from ANWR and federal lands increased the cost of oil and natural gas to both our own market and to the world's oil price, a huge benefit to Russia.  If you see the solution as simply producing more oil without regard to the higher cost, you're a fool!  Why else do you think the prices for gas has doubled or more under Biden if we're producing more oil now?  It's because in his foolish attempt to destroy the fossil fuel industry and force acceptance of his idiotic "renewable energy" scheme, the oil industry simply raises the price to cover the added cost Biden has forced on them, just as ANY business does.

Regarding Biden's tranny ****, there are already 25 states that have banned "gender-affirming care" for minors and there is nothing to prevent Trump and a Republican Congress from outlawing it entirely.  New leaders at the Dept. of Education can be instrumental in also banning drag-queen story hours for kids, girls being forced to accept boys in their bathrooms, locker rooms and showers, and tampon machines in boys bathrooms.  And unlike you, I don't believe for a second  that the conservative majority on the Supreme Court would call it a Constitutional right for ANY of it to be justifiable!  They WILL uphold the rights of women despite the screeching that's sure to come from the left.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2024, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 10:41 am

So, you have officially abandoned the lie that Italy was part of the Afghanistan Theater of Operations, then? Final answer on that? Italy does NOT border Afghanistan and was NOT conceivably reachable by the Taliban's offensive maneuvers? You've done your due diligence there?

"Misspoke." Like I "misspoke" about my Baby SEAL deployment back in '62.

There's mealy-mouthing number one. Go.

I proved to you he knew they were being deployed, with his OWN PRESS RELEASE saying he expected to be deployed and would run his political campaign from Iraq.

So there is mealy mouthing number two.

So, if the citizens of MINNESOTA overlooked his lie about his rank upon retirement and his being a combat vet, then it should not be an issue in NATIONAL politics?

What if he had been the mayor of a town? Would that TOWN overlooking it mean he is vetted for the national stage? If not, why not?

That's mealy mouthing number three, fruitcake. You have graduated from being merely a child danger. Now you're a stolen valor boy, to boot.

You ran your mouth. You challenged my cojones. And you got served. And you showed your truth. Thank you for that bit of stupidity and cravenness. It's nice to put a tab on the folder.

Those last two quotes you attributed to me are not mine.
I believe they're Mainman's. 
There's an ocean of difference between the beliefs of him and me, and I suspect you already realize that.
 

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 11:33 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 11:33 am

What we DON'T agree on is the reason WHY sanctions are losing their impact.  You seem to think that it has nothing to do with the weakness of Biden, while I blame him and Obama for it completely.

Well that is half of the current century, son. If you want a booby prize, you're welcome to it. This ain't the hill I care to die on, since we both agree that american sanctions are a joke that gets less funny every time it is told.

 

Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2024, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 11:38 am

Those last two quotes you attributed to me are not mine.
I believe they're Mainman's. 
There's an ocean of difference between the beliefs of him and me, and I suspect you already realize that.

My bad. I still had your addy in the browser from responding to your earlier post.

It’s all a play and disagreement with the words and the wording and the meaning

maineman » 07 Aug 2024, 6:51 am » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2024, 6:51 am

He retired.  When you've done your time, it's the next guy's turn.

Imagine supporting a guy who claimed he had bone spurs to avoid service altogether.

Yea, he retired when he found out he was going to be deployed. 
The guys who served under him are speaking out and they're not happy.


 

golfboy » 08 Aug 2024, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 6:21 pm

Yea, he retired when he found out he was going to be deployed. 
The guys who served under him are speaking out and they're not happy.


 

You know what my brain sees here, what is the purpose for a chain of command? If a leader is removed, there is a person ready to replace him or her immediately. What the hell are you people doing?

Every damned reality is setup the same **** way daily. Excuse me, my instinctive rage is peaking again.

golfboy » 08 Aug 2024, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2024, 6:21 pm

Yea, he retired when he found out he was going to be deployed. 
The guys who served under him are speaking out and they're not happy.

some are....some aren't.  24 is a good career..  More than you served, pedo-boy.