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Zeets2 » 13 Aug 2024, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 3:33 pm

And what I'm telling you is that if Tulsi took this to the Supreme Court, her Constitutional rights on those amendments would NOT be null and void!

I guess what they're doing is okay, then.

All she has to do is sue in federal court and appeal it to the top and have her appeal accepted, and there will be justice in the land.

Hoorah, you insipid glass of Venezuelan runoff water.

Zeets2 » 13 Aug 2024, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 3:33 pm

She CANNOT be prohibited from her free speech under the first amendment, she CANNOT be found guilty of a charge leveled against her without a public jury trial!  And Congress can make NO LAW abrogating those rights because they are granted to her by GOD and not by the power of government, no matter WHICH party controls it!

I hope she takes it that far if for no other reason to give you an accurate understanding of our Constitutional rights, which you clearly lack at this time.

I understand who abrogated those rights in the first place, such that she NO LONGER HAS THEM and is required to be super wealthy and spend a million suing the government just to reinstate those rights, you fruitcake - and that's more than you appear to comprehend.

If you're stupid enough to argue about who signed the partiot act, how do you remember to breathe, you **** idiot? As I said at the outset, fruitcake:

THE DEMOC RATS ARE ONLY USING THE POWERS REPUBLICANS GAVE THEM.
 

FOR THOSE NEEDING CLARIFICATION OF THE PATRIOT ACT:

IT ENHANCED PREVIOUS LEGISLATION FROM APRIL 1996, ENTITLED THE "ANTITERRORISM AND EFFECTIVE DEATH PENALTY ACT OF 1996", ENACTED DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION FOLLOWING THE 1995 OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING.U.S. Congress. "S.735 - Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996."

PASSED BY CONGRESS AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH ON OCTOBER 26,2001, FOLLOWING THE SEPTEMBER 11 TERRORIST ATTACKS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.

THE PATRIOT ACT AIMED TO INCREASE HOMELAND SECURITY AND EXPAND TOOLS AVAILABLE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FEDERAL AGENTS SUCH AS:
 • OBTAINING BANK RECORDS AND BUSINESS FINANCIAL RECORDS TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING FOR TERRORISM FINANCING.
• IMPROVED INTELLIGENCE SHARING BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
•TOUGHER PENALTIES FOR CONVICTED TERRORISTS AND THOSE WHO AID THEM. 
• ALLOWING FOR DELAYED SEARCH WARRANTS.
• PREVENTING ALIENS INVOLVED IN TERRORIST ACTIVITIES TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES.

 
 

righteous » 13 Aug 2024, 3:30 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 3:30 pm

EXPECT THE WORST IF YOU'RE NOT A PROPONENT OF WAR AND THE MIC.

always do

Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 3:48 pm

I guess what they're doing is okay, then.

All she has to do is sue in federal court and appeal it to the top and have her appeal accepted, and there will be justice in the land.

Hoorah, you insipid glass of Venezuelan runoff water.

I understand who abrogated those rights in the first place, such that she NO LONGER HAS THEM and is required to be super wealthy and spend a million suing the government just to reinstate those rights, you fruitcake - and that's more than you appear to comprehend.

If you're stupid enough to argue about who signed the partiot act, how do you remember to breathe, you **** idiot? As I said at the outset, fruitcake:

THE DEMOC RATS ARE ONLY USING THE POWERS REPUBLICANS GAVE THEM.

you are the smartest person on this entire site!

anything over 91% of the time rounds up to 100%   
 
 

 What make me think that our country would use any underhanded tactics 

only to secure a victory?
 

 
 

Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 1:48 pm

Yeah, you said site,not state. 

What is "off" about the site?

Its all good.  I was just feeling a bit negative Nellie last night  

Sumela » 13 Aug 2024, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:16 pm

Its all good.  I was just feeling a bit negative Nellie last night

Your own government tried to murder you. It will try again.

You're surrounded by open pedophiles who are protected by law. 

A bit of negativity is understandable.
 

Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 4:34 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:34 pm

Your own government tried to murder you. It will try again.

You're surrounded by open pedophiles who are protected by law. 

A bit of negativity is understandable.

Tulsi Gabbard being designated as a dangerous domestic terrorist
was maybe the final straw for me.  America is oversville.
 

Mrkelly » 13 Aug 2024, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:07 pm

 What make me think that our country would use any underhanded tactics 

only to secure a victory?
 

 

Sumela » 13 Aug 2024, 4:36 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:36 pm

Tulsi Gabbard being designated as a dangerous domestic terrorist
was maybe the final straw for me.  America is oversville.

Bro, they could have provided Tulsi with the cunnilinguotron 3000 and a Presidential Medal of Freedom, and it would still have been oversville for me. 

You only have to make one attempt on my life to sour me - toss in legalizing pedophilia, and I'm out. 
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 4:41 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:41 pm

Bro, they could have provided Tulsi with the cunnilinguotron 3000 and a Presidential Medal of Freedom, and it would still have been oversville for me. 

You only have to make one attempt on my life to sour me - toss in legalizing pedophilia, and I'm out.

Sumela » 13 Aug 2024, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:53 pm

 

https://youtu.be/pTifdoKXoxM?si=6Ki1ylCohCFo0qxb
 
 

Sumela » 13 Aug 2024, 4:16 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 4:16 pm

Its all good.  I was just feeling a bit negative Nellie last night

I have imagined that's how a haunted house or a benevolent spirit works.
Even people that know intellectually there aren't ghosts can have a feeling of dread and foreboding sometimes.

Shedding my mortal coils doesn't generate fear in me these days. Big talk when walking around, right?
But I do wonder what it will be like when I am actually sensing slipping into the void...
Maybe I'll **** myself like lots of "brave" people.  

ps
We are all being watched. Even the watchers.
Goldfish trying to stay dry is impossible.

Cannonpointer » 12 Aug 2024, 9:14 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2024, 9:14 pm

He doesn't seem very supportive, bringing this to the board's attention.

What evidence do you have that he "supports" progressives, and how do you define "progressives"?

Look at what he said. He claims Tulsi is a “progressive” and that he wrote her in. Therefore, he supports “progressives” even though she isn’t one.

I define “progressive” as a political movement that is the complete opposite of what it says. It’s regressive. Anything that is ***-backwards, that’s “progressive”. “Progressives” seek to change everything, regardless of whether it should be changed or not. “Progressives” walk hand-in-hand with the *** movement, defund the police movement, open-borders movement, etc…. “Progressives” seek to take the money and well-being away from hardworking people, especially whites, and hand it over to criminals, degenerates and scum. “Progressives” seek to tax you to the moon and back for things like free housing, free school, free food, free medical, free everything. “Progressives” will have us all living in boxed apartments on top of one another, and owning jack ****. “Progressives” seek to turn the United States into places like France, Germany and the Netherlands, where everything is going to ****. 

SouthernFried » 13 Aug 2024, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 6:20 pm

Look at what he said. He claims Tulsi is a “progressive” and that he wrote her in. Therefore, he supports “progressives” even though she isn’t one.

You don't see any contradiction in this claim? Read it over again.

You're saying him supporting someone who is not a progressive makes him a supporter of progressives. Seriously - read it. That's what you're saying.

How is that sensible?

SouthernFried » 13 Aug 2024, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 6:20 pm

I define “progressive” as a political movement that is the complete opposite of what it says. It’s regressive. Anything that is ***-backwards, that’s “progressive”. “Progressives” seek to change everything, regardless of whether it should be changed or not. “Progressives” walk hand-in-hand with the *** movement, defund the police movement, open-borders movement, etc…. “Progressives” seek to take the money and well-being away from hardworking people, especially whites, and hand it over to criminals, degenerates and scum. “Progressives” seek to tax you to the moon and back for things like free housing, free school, free food, free medical, free everything. “Progressives” will have us all living in boxed apartments on top of one another, and owning jack ****. “Progressives” seek to turn the United States into places like France, Germany and the Netherlands, where everything is going to ****.

It seems to me that you and I have a pretty similar read on what a progressive is. Which means one of us is incorrect about Mr. Kelly.

Me, I would be all for a lot of the things that progressives want (or WOULD want, if they were capable of consistency) - public higher education, public trade school, an activist government that curbs market excesses on behalf of the public good - I'm talking an outright nanny state. I WOULD be for those things, in a country that was racially homogeneous. But not in Murka. I'm agin those things in Murka.

Anyhow, I think you have a bad read on Kelly.

Cannonpointer » 13 Aug 2024, 6:30 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 6:30 pm

You don't see any contradiction in this claim? Read it over again.

You're saying him supporting someone who is not a progressive makes him a supporter of progressives. Seriously - read it. That's what you're saying.

How is that sensible?

It seems to me that you and I have a pretty similar read on what a progressive is. Which means one of us is incorrect about Mr. Kelly.

Me, I would be all for a lot of the things that progressives want (or WOULD want, if they were capable of consistency) - public higher education, public trade school, an activist government that curbs market excesses on behalf of the public good - I'm talking an outright nanny state. I WOULD be for those things, in a country that was racially homogeneous. But not in Murka. I'm agin those things in Murka.

Anyhow, I think you have a bad read on Kelly.

My read on that guy won’t change. He’s got Trump Derangement Syndrome nearly as bad as the worst on this forum. He’s gonna pull the lever for (D) every single time. This isn’t the Democrat party of the old days. Walking into a voting booth in the last 8-10 years and pulling the blue lever makes you scum in my book, period. I have no tolerance or respect for these people. None whatsoever. 

SouthernFried » 13 Aug 2024, 6:39 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 6:39 pm

My read on that guy won’t change. He’s got Trump Derangement Syndrome nearly as bad as the worst on this forum. He’s gonna pull the lever for (D) every single time. This isn’t the Democrat party of the old days. Walking into a voting booth in the last 8-10 years and pulling the blue lever makes you scum in my book, period. I have no tolerance or respect for these people. None whatsoever.

pulling the lever of any color makes you a cuck

you have been told by the people that **** us over with tax breaks for the rich, endless wars, and endless enrichment of the oligarchs that progressives are EVIL

because we want them to spend our dollars helping the people that make this country tick   

go watch a real evil progressive like Jimmy Dore and say that stupid ****   

SouthernFried » 13 Aug 2024, 6:39 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 6:39 pm

My read on that guy won’t change. He’s got Trump Derangement Syndrome nearly as bad as the worst on this forum. He’s gonna pull the lever for (D) every single time. This isn’t the Democrat party of the old days. Walking into a voting booth in the last 8-10 years and pulling the blue lever makes you scum in my book, period. I have no tolerance or respect for these people. None whatsoever.

Have you asked him who he supported in 16 and 20? Or who he will support this year? 

I don't think he'll lie to ya. He doesn't SEEM scared.
 

righteous » 13 Aug 2024, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 3:55 pm

FOR THOSE NEEDING CLARIFICATION OF THE PATRIOT ACT:

IT ENHANCED PREVIOUS LEGISLATION FROM APRIL 1996, ENTITLED THE "ANTITERRORISM AND EFFECTIVE DEATH PENALTY ACT OF 1996", ENACTED DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION FOLLOWING THE 1995 OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING.U.S. Congress. "S.735 - Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996."

PASSED BY CONGRESS AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH ON OCTOBER 26,2001, FOLLOWING THE SEPTEMBER 11 TERRORIST ATTACKS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.

THE PATRIOT ACT AIMED TO INCREASE HOMELAND SECURITY AND EXPAND TOOLS AVAILABLE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FEDERAL AGENTS SUCH AS:
 • OBTAINING BANK RECORDS AND BUSINESS FINANCIAL RECORDS TO PREVENT MONEY LAUNDERING FOR TERRORISM FINANCING.
• IMPROVED INTELLIGENCE SHARING BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
•TOUGHER PENALTIES FOR CONVICTED TERRORISTS AND THOSE WHO AID THEM. 
• ALLOWING FOR DELAYED SEARCH WARRANTS.
• PREVENTING ALIENS INVOLVED IN TERRORIST ACTIVITIES TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES.

The real intent, along with alienating the American people from their Constitutional rights, was to house almost every federal agency under one roof, so that the hard work of corrupting them individually could be avoided.

That's how you got a secret service so corrupt it tried to murder Trump and so inept that it failed. 
 

SouthernFried » 13 Aug 2024, 6:39 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2024, 6:39 pm

My read on that guy won’t change. He’s got Trump Derangement Syndrome nearly as bad as the worst on this forum. He’s gonna pull the lever for (D) every single time. This isn’t the Democrat party of the old days. Walking into a voting booth in the last 8-10 years and pulling the blue lever makes you scum in my book, period. I have no tolerance or respect for these people. None whatsoever.

By the way, two things.

1. People are at perfect liberty to dislike Trump without it being a "derangement." The man has a history of being something of an opportunist and a PT Barnum type. Trump University, for example, was a short con that ended in a multimillion dollar settlement. His book Art of the Deal was a turd. I read it, and walked away no smarter for the bromides it offered. A great many of his business deals went into bankruptcy, and never once did he get hurt by it. This means the investors took the losses and Trump took the profits. 

Depending on your personal measure of success, Trump is a very poor businessman or a very good one. I see him, through my personal value lens, as a **** businessman. A man of vision will make money for himself AND his partners. 

I am quite hopeful that Trump wins - though every skeptical that the election will be honest. American elections are NOTORIOUSLY shady affairs which never allow outside observers the way Venezuelan elections do. But I know Trump for a skunk, and I do not consider myself deranged. I want Trump because his track record is better, his policies are better, and my enemies hate his guts and liver. I don't have to lie to myself that he is a great American. I just see him as a useful one. 

2. Tell the folks on the board, if you would, the difference between a yankee and a damned yankee.