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Bidencrimefamily » 18 Aug 2024, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:05 am

Trump didn't give the military a choice so I can't vote for him. 

Social protocols established ancestrally didn't give the military a choice. Persons change taking office as president, politics regulate each person in office regardless party affiliation. intellect over instinct doesn't balance same way evolving has all the time.

Zeets2 » 18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am

I can never see the point of voting for a candidate who has zero chance of winning, whether that be for RFK or Mickey Mouse.

And that is why they have no chance - the surrender of folks like yourself to the two-party tyranny.

If you like Trump the best, you should vote for Trump. If you prefer another candidate, you should have the courage to speak your truth through your ballot. That is CERTAINLY the behavior the founders recommended and would advise today. The one perfect way to block the two party duopoly is to stop helping it. Stop participating in it.

And the time to do that is always right now - not next election cycle, and not when enough people are "on board." You do right to do right NOT because the outcome is guaranteed but because doing right is the right thing to do. Do wrong for the "right reason" is doing wrong. It's what leftists do, and then they say the ends justify them means.

And that is what you are doing when you advise me to vote AGAINST the candidate I want and FOR the candidate I don't want, in order to prevent the the candidate I RULLY RULLY don't want from winning. You are advising me to do the wrong the for the right reason - the ends justify the means. You are advising me to smart-rat my vote - which simply keeps me on the wheel the duopoly wants me on.

Zeets2 » 18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am

I'm not about to cast dispersions on anyone truly voting their conscience, but what I've seen far too often (and you probably have too) is that those who vote for a candidate that has no chance of winning does so to enjoy the freedom to vehemently criticize whichever side wins without having to own up to the fact that they voted for him/her in the past in political discussions for the next several years.

Such people are just cowards.

I am wide open in my defenses of trump (and my criticisms of him), and I will not disguise my glee if he wins. But I am bound to vote my conscience in whatever elections remain to me, even if it harelips the governor.

Zeets2 » 18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am

This year we have the opportunity to elect or reject a team of full-blown Marxists who have bent over backwards destroying this country (which you agree with and point out with regularity), and yet your refuse to help stop them.

Voting my conscience is my duty. All that "stopping them" will take is others voting theirs'. And that is out of my hands. What is in MY hands is MY vote. And I will vote MY conscience.

Zeets2 » 18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 9:56 am

And I can't help but believe that the reasons most of those who either stay at home or vote third party are nothing more complicated than long term CYA,  regardless of the fact that they don't reside in a swing state.
And yes, that's just my opinion.

Again, I cannot speak for others, nor must I stand accountable for their actions (unless I compelled those actions in some way). I stand accountable to my Maker for what I do - not for what you do, or what some slacker that stays home does, or what a kamala the horse voter does.

I am voting for RFK - the fellow who tried to warn me instead of trying to kill me.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

And that is why they have no chance - the surrender of folks like yourself to the two-party tyranny.

If you like Trump the best, you should vote for Trump. If you prefer another candidate, you should have the courage to speak your truth through your ballot. That is CERTAINLY the behavior the founders recommended and would advise today. The one perfect way to block the two party monopoly is to stop helping it. Stop participating in it.

And the time to do that is always right now - not next election cycle, and not when enough people are "on board." You do right to do right, not because the outcome is guaranteed but because doing right is the right thing to do. Do wrong for the "right reason" is doing wrong. It's what leftists do, and then they say the ends justify them means.

And that is what you are doing when you advise me to vote AGAINST the candidate I want and FOR the candidate I don't want, in order to prevent the the candidate I RULLY RULLY don't want from winning. You are advising me to do the wrong the for the right reason - the ends justify the means. You are advising me to smart rat - which simply keeps me on the wheel the duopoly wants me on.

Such people are just cowards.

I am wide open in my defenses of trump (and my criticisms of him), and I will not disguise my glee if he wins. But I am bound to vote my conscience in whatever elections remain to me, even if it harelips the governor.

Voting my conscience is my duty. All that "stopping them" will take is others voting theirs'. And that is out of my hands. What is in MY hands is MY vote. And I will vote MY conscience.

Again, I cannot speak for others, nor must I stand accountable for their actions (unless I compelled those actions in some way). I stand accountable to my Maker for what I do - not for what you do, or what some slacker that stays home does, or what a kamala the horse voter does.

I am voting for RFK - they fellow who tried to warn me instead of trying to kill me.

I can't vote for trump because he forced the military to get the jab. 

Did PSAs taking the jab. 

Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2024, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 8:56 am

I have a bias against people who tried to murder me, and a bias FOR people who did not. 

Trump and Kamala both tried to murder me. RFK actually OPPOSED my murder, which I find charming in a candidate. 

Thoughts, friends, enemies, and countrymen?

he could have a chance to win if he had a better speaking voice.

Bidencrimefamily » 18 Aug 2024, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:04 am

I'm going to vote for Kennedy. 

He has the best interests of America at heart. 

And if you didn't like Trump trying to kill you you would also.

I do not believe for one moment you will be voting for anyone but the horse, fruit fly. 

If my investigator doesn't find you before the election.
 

Bidencrimefamily » 18 Aug 2024, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:49 am

I can't vote for trump because he forced the military to get the jab. 
 

You're a lying halfwit. That was Biden, whom you were glad to vote for. You have no principles to stand on, you weasely worm. GTFO of my thread. 

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stori ... cial-says/

jerrab » 18 Aug 2024, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:53 am

he could have a chance to win if he had a better speaking voice.

Esthetics matter. For sure. 
 

Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2024, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:47 am

And that is why they have no chance - the surrender of folks like yourself to the two-party tyranny.

If you like Trump the best, you should vote for Trump. If you prefer another candidate, you should have the courage to speak your truth through your ballot. That is CERTAINLY the behavior the founders recommended and would advise today. The one perfect way to block the two party duopoly is to stop helping it. Stop participating in it.

And the time to do that is always right now - not next election cycle, and not when enough people are "on board." You do right to do right NOT because the outcome is guaranteed but because doing right is the right thing to do. Do wrong for the "right reason" is doing wrong. It's what leftists do, and then they say the ends justify them means.

And that is what you are doing when you advise me to vote AGAINST the candidate I want and FOR the candidate I don't want, in order to prevent the the candidate I RULLY RULLY don't want from winning. You are advising me to do the wrong the for the right reason - the ends justify the means. You are advising me to smart-rat my vote - which simply keeps me on the wheel the duopoly wants me on.


Such people are just cowards.

I am wide open in my defenses of trump (and my criticisms of him), and I will not disguise my glee if he wins. But I am bound to vote my conscience in whatever elections remain to me, even if it harelips the governor.


Voting my conscience is my duty. All that "stopping them" will take is others voting theirs'. And that is out of my hands. What is in MY hands is MY vote. And I will vote MY conscience.


Again, I cannot speak for others, nor must I stand accountable for their actions (unless I compelled those actions in some way). I stand accountable to my Maker for what I do - not for what you do, or what some slacker that stays home does, or what a kamala the horse voter does.

I am voting for RFK - the fellow who tried to warn me instead of trying to kill me.
 
 

Are good and evil two parties?
Are male and female offspring 2 parties.
Is left from right two parties?
Is black from white 2 parties?
is yellow from brown 2 parties?
Are great great grandparents and great grandparents 2 parties?
are grandparent and parents two parties, are siblings and cousins two parties?
Are leaderships and fellowships 2 parties?

I listed 8 2 party intellectual scenarios that exist in series parallel time daily every generation gap alive within the 8.12 billion ancestors living now and the rest of your damn thread isn't tyrannical mind over matter crap practiced throughout history into current events today???????????????????????????.

edit adding the 9th gate of intellectual eternal hell this species did to itself
2 party system of right and wrong ways to be adapting as eternally separated daily.

sootedupCyndi » 18 Aug 2024, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 9:02 am

True- Trump pushed the vax also. I was very disappointed in that.
But it was the other clown that made it a mandate.
yea i could see my self considering him.
Ha- but then again. me and you were the only ones who liked Linden LaRouche 

You always fall for the charletans, scoundrels and dictators; undeniable!    
@sooted up Cyndi  
 

31stArrival » 18 Aug 2024, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:38 am

Social protocols established ancestrally didn't give the military a choice. Persons change taking office as president, politics regulate each person in office regardless party affiliation. intellect over instinct doesn't balance same way evolving has all the time.

I agree with marianne williamson on things. she is against the bobing of gaza and does not think boys should compete in girls' sports. she is still a viable candidate I think.

https://marianne2024.com/israel-and-palestine/
 

Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2024, 10:31 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:31 am

WTF does THAT mean? You always have a choice.

A **** liquor store owner has a "choice" whether to comply or not. The consquences are the issue, and during the trump administration I got locked in my house and I was told if I wanted out - hell, if I wanted to buy or sell, - I would have to take the trump vaccine. I CHANGED STATES because of the vaccine trump green-lighted pharma to foist on us. HE greenlighted it, out of his yuge ego, to play the hero. And pelosi and biden both questioned whether they would take it, since it had trump stank on it. The their masters spoke, and they got in line - and the rest is mystory. Not history or herstory. Mystory. 

Understand this. I am never taking their vaccine. Not that one, and not the next one. I am already under a death sentence, for being born, I accept that. When I die is not nearly so important as how I die. And I want to die saving an Iranian terrorist from an American soldier - not from a self-inflicted clot shot.

"changing states" tells me it's a state thing, democrat run no doubt...
 

Bidencrimefamily » 18 Aug 2024, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:05 am

Trump didn't give the military a choice so I can't vote for him.

you're sadly mistaken VaG, joe didn't...  

Bidencrimefamily » 18 Aug 2024, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 10:09 am

I can't vote for trump because he made the vaccine. And he was president that forced the military to get the jab.

You asked him to fast track the vaccine, you sniveling little Democrat ***.

sootedupCyndi » 18 Aug 2024, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 9:02 am

True- Trump pushed the vax also. I was very disappointed in that.
But it was the other clown that made it a mandate.
yea i could see my self considering him.
Ha- but then again. me and you were the only ones who liked Linden LaRouche 

Trump was pointedly NOT in the "past-presidents-push-VAX" commercials.

Carter was also in a different one with these guys.


 

Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2024, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 8:56 am

I have a bias against people who tried to murder me, and a bias FOR people who did not. 

Trump and Kamala both tried to murder me. RFK actually OPPOSED my murder, which I find charming in a candidate. 

Thoughts, friends, enemies, and countrymen?

I still find it difficult to go to the trouble of completely wasting the time like that.
You can argue about having a clear conscience and stuff but does anybody get your message?

jerra b » 18 Aug 2024, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 1:16 pm

I agree with marianne williamson on things. she is against the bobing of gaza and does not think boys should compete in girls' sports. she is still a viable candidate I think.

https://marianne2024.com/israel-and-palestine/
 

Your free will exercised against understanding self evident living in plain sight. All I can do is explain why it will eventually fail.

Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2024, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 8:56 am

I have a bias against people who tried to murder me, and a bias FOR people who did not. 

Trump and Kamala both tried to murder me. RFK actually OPPOSED my murder, which I find charming in a candidate. 

Thoughts, friends, enemies, and countrymen?

High probability I will be joining you. 99% sure the Wife will vote for Trump. Casting a more conservative vote in Colorado is pointless, the Marxist are already in control here.

DeezerShoove » 18 Aug 2024, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 2:42 pm

I still find it difficult to go to the trouble of completely wasting the time like that.
You can argue about having a clear conscience and stuff but does anybody get your message?

I get my message. And I'm the one who has to live with me.

ROG62 » 18 Aug 2024, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 1:24 pm

"changing states" tells me it's a state thing, democrat run no doubt...

The state I left was red. The state I went to is redder.

Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2024, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2024, 3:57 pm

I get my message. And I'm the one who has to live with me.

And the rest of the species has to live with your decisions on what is believable or not. Its sarcasm CP. My anger is at intellectual humanity and those operating the governances everywhere.

You are just the hired help following policy created to capitalize off people ignoring their true actual time alive selves.