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Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 5:52 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 5:52 am

Plug,

Post the growth rates of spending under presidents since 1977, and tell the OP to staple his pissflaps shut.

You’re axin plugs to answer that? lol 
 

BuckNaked » 20 Aug 2024, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 8:38 am

You’re axin plugs do answer that? lol

I'm obviously asking you, Plug.


 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 7:41 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 7:41 am

This isn't about Obama.

Answer the question....or I'll answer it for you.

Which presidents have added the most to national debt?

• 80% of the national debt has been added since 2001
• Former President Barack Obama added the most, $9.3 trillion over 8 years
• Former President George W. Bush added the least at $4.9 trillion in 8 years

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 5:52 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 5:52 am

Plug,

Post the growth rates of spending under presidents since 1977, and tell the OP to staple his pissflaps shut.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statist ... nd-outlays

BuckNaked » 20 Aug 2024, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 9:09 am

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statist ... nd-outlays

Plug,

CAGR...

Try again.

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 9:12 am

Plug,

CAGR...

Try again.

https://www.investopedia.com/gdp-growth ... nt-8604042

BuckNaked » 20 Aug 2024, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 9:13 am

https://www.investopedia.com/gdp-growth ... nt-8604042

Of SPENDING..

 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 9:16 am

Of SPENDING..

https://www.investopedia.com/us-inflati ... nt-8546447

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 5:52 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 5:52 am

Plug,

Post the growth rates of spending under presidents since 1977, and tell the OP to staple his pissflaps shut.

how bout this one?

https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/
 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 7:06 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 7:06 am

Have you ever cast a vote for a POTUS who grew spending at a lower rate than Obama?

Well...........do FUTURE costs count?

Furthermore, they confirmed high-income individuals will receive fully taxpayer-subsidized health insurance under the policy. Just five years ago, annual spending on Obamacare subsidies was $57 billion. In 2024, annual spending on Obamacare subsidies is projected to more than double to $125 billion.Jun 24, 2024

How much does Obamacare cost taxpayers per year?
CBO released updated projections of health insurance coverage for people under age 65 in the journal Health Affairs. In CBO and JCT's projections, net federal subsidies in 2022 for insured people under age 65 are $997 billion. In 2032, that annual amount is projected to reach $1.6 trillion.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/he ... nts-expire

EDC4ALL! » 20 Aug 2024, 11:54 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 11:54 am

Well...........do FUTURE costs count?

Furthermore, they confirmed high-income individuals will receive fully taxpayer-subsidized health insurance under the policy. Just five years ago, annual spending on Obamacare subsidies was $57 billion. In 2024, annual spending on Obamacare subsidies is projected to more than double to $125 billion.Jun 24, 2024

How much does Obamacare cost taxpayers per year?
CBO released updated projections of health insurance coverage for people under age 65 in the journal Health Affairs. In CBO and JCT's projections, net federal subsidies in 2022 for insured people under age 65 are $997 billion. In 2032, that annual amount is projected to reach $1.6 trillion.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/health/he ... nts-expire

Ed,

Link to your actual source.


 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 12:14 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 12:14 pm

Ed,

Link to your actual source.

You stated Obama never added almost $10 trillion to the debt...

Name YOUR source
 

BooRadley » 20 Aug 2024, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 1:08 pm

You stated Obama never added almost $10 trillion to the debt...

Name YOUR source

I've already shown you...

But I'll do so again when you finally tell me how many hours each day you spend watching FOX.
 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 12:14 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 12:14 pm

Ed,

Link to your actual source.

It's this one for starters.       https://www.cbo.gov/topics/health-care/ ... 20trillion.

and I do believe this is the other.    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/2024/06/ ... %20billion.

 Obamacare is the gift that keeps on giving. It will continue to rise, and the increase in people on Medicaid is hurting peoples (poor people) quality of care. There are only so many doctors (mostly specialists) that accept Medicaid, and of the ones that do, most severely limit how many Medicaid patients they will accept.

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 1:20 pm

I've already shown you...

But I'll do so again when you finally tell me how many hours each day you spend watching FOX.

No...
You've NEVER shown us.

So supply a link
 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 1:20 pm

I've already shown you...

But I'll do so again when you finally tell me how many hours each day you spend watching FOX.

5. Barack Obama (2009 to 2017)

When looking at which president added the most to the national debt in dollar amounts, President Barack Obama takes the lead.17 Obama’s efforts to spur recovery from the Great Recession through his $832 billion stimulus package and $858 billion in tax cuts contributed to the rise in national debt during his presidency.1221Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "Tax Cut Compromise a Costly “Deal”."

https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by ... ge-7371225

Obama incurred more debt than any other president

The post comes after weeks of standstill between President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy over the issue of raising the debt ceiling, which limits how much the government can borrow, as USA TODAY reported. But contrary to the post’s claim, the total federal debt increased more under former President Barack Obama than it did under the Trump administration, according to David Primo, a political science and business administration professor at the University of Rochester.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 252480007/
 
 

*Huey » 20 Aug 2024, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 1:45 pm

5. Barack Obama (2009 to 2017)

When looking at which president added the most to the national debt in dollar amounts, President Barack Obama takes the lead.17 Obama’s efforts to spur recovery from the Great Recession through his $832 billion stimulus package and $858 billion in tax cuts contributed to the rise in national debt during his presidency.1221Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "Tax Cut Compromise a Costly “Deal”."

https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by ... ge-7371225

Obama incurred more debt than any other president

The post comes after weeks of standstill between President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy over the issue of raising the debt ceiling, which limits how much the government can borrow, as USA TODAY reported. But contrary to the post’s claim, the total federal debt increased more under former President Barack Obama than it did under the Trump administration, according to David Primo, a political science and business administration professor at the University of Rochester.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 252480007/

The debt Obama incurred didn't stop. Obamacare costs will rise forever.

The real truth is, Obama and his Ilk knew EXACTLY what this would cost in the long run, but they knew if they gave REAL numbers, it probably wouldn't have passed. And yes, ILLEGALS can sign up for it right now. their coverage might be temporary, but nothing will happen to them when they are caught. I personally signed up 2 families that were here illegally. We answered ALL questions truthfully and they had 4-6 months to prove they were eligible for the covered. If they can't prove it, they just get dropped, but there's not much to stop them from reapplying.

*Huey » 20 Aug 2024, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 1:45 pm

5. Barack Obama (2009 to 2017)

When looking at which president added the most to the national debt in dollar amounts, President Barack Obama takes the lead.17 Obama’s efforts to spur recovery from the Great Recession through his $832 billion stimulus package and $858 billion in tax cuts contributed to the rise in national debt during his presidency.1221Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. "Tax Cut Compromise a Costly “Deal”."

https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by ... ge-7371225

Obama incurred more debt than any other president

The post comes after weeks of standstill between President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy over the issue of raising the debt ceiling, which limits how much the government can borrow, as USA TODAY reported. But contrary to the post’s claim, the total federal debt increased more under former President Barack Obama than it did under the Trump administration, according to David Primo, a political science and business administration professor at the University of Rochester.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 252480007/

******* Slack Jaw..

The third method is to measure the debt incurred by Obama's specific policies. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has done that for many of them.

When all of this is added up, Obama and his policies increased the national debt by $2.8 trillion.33

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/nationa ... ma-3306293
 

Blackvegetable » 20 Aug 2024, 7:06 am » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2024, 7:06 am

Have you ever cast a vote for a POTUS who grew spending at a lower rate than Obama?

Obama got a tremendous amount of flak from progressives for that very decision. They accused him of adopting EU austerity policies; I was on a progressive board back then and I recall they were furious with Obama.