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26 Aug 2024 4:39 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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maineman » 28 Aug 2024, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑ It was a long time ago. For all either of us knows, the opposition leadership may very well have reached out to the US and the EU for assistance in managing the crisis.
When you say the E.U., do you mean the E.U. that Nuland was referencing when she said, "**** the E.U."? And when you say "a long time ago," do you mean 2014? When Biden was six years into being vice president? With ONE administration separating his vice presidency and his presidency? That's what you mean by "a long time ago"?

"May very well have" is a lovely piece of argumentation.

Trump was the "opposition leader" on Jan 6. What country could legitimately have involved itself, if he had "reached out"? What country would you defend for chatting about who was going to be in the new government? Would you let wiki decide the right and wrong of it?
maineman » 28 Aug 2024, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑It certainly wasn't the US that overthrew the Ukraine government, as you have previously claimed.
Picking who got to serve in the new government rather puts the lie to this fact-statement that you express with "certainty." ON WHAT DO YOU BASE YOUR CERTAINTY?

Wiki? Unquoted, even? Just provided a wiki link like it MEANT something?

REALLY?

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maineman » 28 Aug 2024, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑ Says the guy who supported the J6 insurrectionists who tried to do just that! Image   Image  

That's some funny **** right there!!!
I defend Jan 6? I defend it???

Son, YOU just got THROUGH defending it. Trump was an opposition leader. What - he had no right to "reach out"?

You got a problem with opposition leaders all of a sudden, you hypocritical, double-standard promulgating Frank Burn doppelganger?
 
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maineman » 28 Aug 2024, 11:24 am » wrote: ↑ As I understand it, three days before the Nuland and Pyatt recorded phone call, Yanukovich had offered to include two members of the opposition in HIS government to calm the Maidan protests in Ukraine, one being that of HIS Prime Minister.  The two Americans were discussing who they thought might be the best two candidates for those offered positions IN YANUKOVICH'S GOVERNMENT.  They were NOT discussing a coup to remove Yanukovich from power.
You never answered the question where your "understanding" of this claim comes from.

I provided evidence. You provide rhetoric.

So far, you've tossed out a wiki link that leads to nothing which backs your position. You've uttered crap like, "for all we know," and, "may very well be." I gave you video, with audio. I gave you proof the U.S. conspired in the overthrow of Ukraine's government, said **** the E.U. [if they don't like it], implicated Joe Biden as one of the actors running the operation, and decided who would be in and out of the coup government. 

Have you no shame?
 
Do better. You represent the left on this board. You're letting your end down badly. 

 
 
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LowIQTrash » 27 Aug 2024, 11:03 pm » wrote: ↑ Wow, finally a great rebuttal @Cannonpointer

I laughed at @Zeets2  a while back for suggesting San Fran was a beacon of soshalizm. I said the billions of private investor dollars shoveled into their overpriced RE market and startup ecosystem for the sake of PRIVATE PROFIT was an example of capitalism. Z Thinks anything resembling “equality” like food stamps and welfare and DEI initiatives = soshalizm.
So, you like the Democrat idea of giving $125,000 to ONLY illegals to help buy them a house?
Is THAT not socialism?
How about paying illegals for all their healthcare costs, their education costs, hotel accommodations, travel expenses, free debit cards, and free smartphones?
Are THEY not socialist programs?
NO ONE is claiming that every government program makes us a socialist country, but it is definitely heading in that direction every time a liberal Democrat comes to power. 
 
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maineman » 27 Aug 2024, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑ I told you what caused inflation.  On one hand, you try to portray Biden as this feeble, incompetent, doddering old fool but then claim that he has singlehandedly thrown the economy of the entire planet into a recession that was all about Biden - the head of the Biden Crime Family - somehow pulling the strings that caused the entire world's supply chain to collapse and every nation on the planet to experience inflation and an economic downturn.

2.  Biden always had a choice.  He did not need anyone to agree with him.  He already had the committed delegates.  His poll numbers were already way behind Trump BEFORE the disastrous debate performance.  Kamala stood by him.  I stood by him.  My wife stood by him.  A lot of democrats stood by him.  Jim Clyburn stood by him.  And yes, I am very proud of Joe Biden for putting country before self... a concept that has NEVER crossed Donald Trump's mind.

3.  Tell me how a nation that holds free and fair elections, where private industry drives the economy, where the stock market flourishes, and where entrepreneurial risks are rewarded is not democratic but somehow "Marxist."

Do we espouse the dialectic?  Not at all
Do we have the dictatorship of the proletariat?  no
Do we espouse the labor theory of value?  Absolutely not.  The marketplace alone determines value
Do we define American history with Marx's Historical materialism?  No.  American history's driving force was always manifest destiny.
Do we espouse a revolution that will overthrow the trappings of American democracy?  clearly not

You see, moron.  I studied Marxism and Leninism a LOT at the Naval Academy.  Back then, the theory was that warriors needed to know their enemies.  I have read the "Communist Manifesto." I have read "Das Kapital," "What Is To Be Done,"  "The State and Revolution," and  "Imperialism: The Highest Form of Capitalism."  My roommate called me a "Lenin Geek."

Seriously.  YOU don't know what the **** you are talking about, Junior.  Run along and piss on someone else's leg.  You **** bore me with your inanity.
It's really quite simple, dickhead.
1) If you don't believe that Biden's wild spending and massive new regulations have been a major cause of inflation, you don't know **** from Shinola about inflation, so stop pretending that you do!

2) Next, tell me how a Biden campaign could have continued despite him having won the sufficient number of delegates IF ALL HIS CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS DRIED UP and he had ZERO SUPPORT from his entire party who were actively campaigning against him publicly since his complete collapse in the Trump debate?

3) Simple, we HAVE NOT had "free and fair elections" in 2020 or 2022.  We've witnessed massive fraud and illegal voting in every major swing state that gave Biden his phony victory.  That's how MARXISTS win their elections, exactly how Venezuela is run today!  And the fact that you're unable to acknowledge that tells me that any education you've had on communism and Marxism has been wasted, because you clearly learned NOTHING in those classes!

So if you're continually bored by my responses, what's stopping you from ignoring me and proceeding to **** yourself?
 
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Zeets2 » 29 Aug 2024, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑ So, you like the Democrat idea of giving $125,000 to ONLY illegals to help buy them a house?
Is THAT not socialism?
How about paying illegals for all their healthcare costs, their education costs, hotel accommodations, travel expenses, free debit cards, and free smartphones?
Are THEY not socialist programs?
NO ONE is claiming that every government program makes us a socialist country, but it is definitely heading in that direction every time a liberal Democrat comes to power.
It's only the ones you disagree with that are socialism. :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

Well, fruitcake, I disagree with giving money to israel. Hence, you are a socialist.
 
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Cannonpointer » 29 Aug 2024, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑ It's only the ones you disagree with that are socialism. Image   Image   Image  

Well, fruitcake, I disagree with giving money to israel. Hence, you are a socialist.
And how much do you think your swelled head opinions matter to me?
 
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Zeets2 » 29 Aug 2024, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑ And how much do you think your swelled head opinions matter to me?
Enough to draw a response, fruitcake.  :wub:   :ninja:  
 
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Cannonpointer » 29 Aug 2024, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑ Enough to draw a response, fruitcake.  Image   Image
That much, huh?
Obviously, it's enough to make an impression on a dolt like you!
 
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Zeets2 » 29 Aug 2024, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑ That much, huh?
Obviously, it's enough to make an impression on a dolt like you!
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When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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