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Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 9:08 am

You asked how I could say that God intended for his son to die.
And there plenty of proof of that.

and God knew that corrupted people would have Him killed.

man's injustice is not a new thing and God is full aware of that.

jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 9:21 am

and God knew that corrupted people would have Him killed.

man's injustice is not a new thing and God is full aware of that.

So what's your problem?
How can you possibly say that God didn't intend for that to happen?

Have you forgiven those Hamas terrorist yet for brutally raping, beheading, and murdering those 1200 innocent Israeli citizens?
Aren't you required to provide that forgiveness if you're a real Christian?
So why do you have such consternation?
Seems to me that you're unable to turn the other cheek, aren't you?
 

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 8:58 am

Not at all!
In much the same way as Christ was angered at the merchants defiling the temple, I get angry at the sight of terrorists raping, torturing, and murdering innocent civilians in Israel.  And I won't apologize for it!

So why is it so difficult for you to respond to the question of whether or not you forgive those same Hamas terrorists for raping, torturing, and murdering those Israeli civilian men, women, and children?

What would Christ think about your inability to condemn such atrocities going on right before your eyes?

 

You are really stuck on the mind over matter scenario. Nurturing over nature pretending intellect governs natural outcomes when instincts are equipped to navigate between series parallel events...

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 8:43 am

Show me where I EVER said that I approved of the IDF shooting children, relief convoys, or people at a relief station, you lying scumbag!

And hospitals that are used for cover for launching weapons and/or for storing weapons go against the Geneva Convention.  And I support the IDF bombing them AFTER providing fair warning (as they always do) to remove patients from the facility before they begin bombing.  By storing and launching weapons from a school, hospital, or mosque, Hamas has made them legitimate targets of war and HAMAS should be blamed for using them in that manner.

****. WITH EVERY POST YOU MAKE ABOUT AN EYE FOR AN EYE WHICH IS RETALIATION, NOT SELF DEFENSE.

jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 9:47 am

****. WITH EVERY POST YOU MAKE ABOUT AN EYE FOR AN EYE WHICH IS RETALIATION, NOT SELF DEFENSE.

What makes you think I'm opposed to retaliation?
I'm 100% behind Israeli retaliation against Hamas for their massacre of 1200 Israeli citizens.
And stopping terrorists from launching missiles into Israel and murdering her people IS self defense, you moron!
 

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Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 9:20 am

What makes you think Israel is obligated to allow Palestinians to infiltrate their country at will and settle wherever they like?
I've got no problem with having the Israeli court determine when and where to allow it.
Their country, their rules.

Live with it, cupcake!

that is right. americans have no problem letting israel bullying gaza. that is 99 per cent of the problem.

Yeah, I got that!
So you would turn the other cheek and forgive the Hamas terrorists that raped, tortured, and murdered over 1200 innocent Israeli men, women, and children on Oct. 7th and took over a hundred hostages, most of whom we now know have been murdered? Come on!  Why can't you admit you be OK with forgiving a terrorist who forced you to watch as they repeatedly raped, tortured and murdered you wife and daughters after setting your infant child on fire and made you watch as it burned to death? If you're a good Christian as you claim, you'd have no problem forgiving such atrocities, right?And you'd turn the other cheek and suggest they similarly could murder the rest of your children too, wouldn't you? If you can admit that, I'll certainly admit that you must be a far better Christian than I am!And if not, don't worry.  It only makes you a complete phony!
 

jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:13 am

that is right. americans have no problem letting israel bullying gaza. that is 99 per cent of the problem.

It's a problem only within your own warped mind!

I've got no problem with Israel doing whatever is necessary to prevent any more terrorist attacks on their people and their country!
Only brainless dolts like YOU object to it!
 

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:17 am

It's a problem only within your own warped mind!

I've got no problem with Israel doing whatever is necessary to prevent any more terrorist attacks on their people and their country!
Only brainless dolts like YOU object to it!

how what you like it if canada got with russia and decided that america belonged to canada and kicked out all americans out of their homes through court orders.

oh I know you would say that is  okay because it is 'leeegal'.

jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:26 am

how what you like it if canada got with russia and decided that america belonged to canada and kicked out all americans out of their homes through court orders.

oh I know you would say that is  okay because it is 'leeegal'.

Not at all! 
I'd say it was a powerless court that had zero authority to do so and if they attempted to enforce such an idiotic adjudication, they would be met with overwhelming force and completely annihilated.  And I'd say, "come and try to take it, ****!"
That's what a sovereign country can do, and the US would do exactly the same thing Israel is doing; eliminating the threat to OUR country!

Does that answer your idiotic hypothetical question?

 

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:35 am

Not at all! 
I'd say it was a powerless court that had zero authority to do so and if they attempted to enforce such an idiotic adjudication, they would be met with overwhelming force and completely annihilated.  And I'd say, "come and try to take it, ****!"
That's what a sovereign country can do, and the US would do exactly the same thing Israel is doing; eliminating the threat to OUR country!

Does that answer your idiotic hypothetical question?

wow!!!! when you don't like it all of a sudden courts are not right. but when it happens to someone else courts are fine and legal. if canada claimed americans were on their land, canada can do that because canada is a sovereign country.

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 10:35 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:35 am

Not at all! 
I'd say it was a powerless court that had zero authority to do so and if they attempted to enforce such an idiotic adjudication, they would be met with overwhelming force and completely annihilated.  And I'd say, "come and try to take it, ****!"
That's what a sovereign country can do, and the US would do exactly the same thing Israel is doing; eliminating the threat to OUR country!

Does that answer your idiotic hypothetical question?

so now canada has powerless courts. 

but every israel court has powers. lol

jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:43 am

wow!!!! when you don't like it all of a sudden courts are not right. but when it happens to someone else courts are fine and legal. if canada claimed americans were on their land, canada can do that because canada is a sovereign country.

Hey stupid!
A FOREIGN court has NO JURISDICTION WHATSOEVER to inflict THEIR laws or THEIR court decisions on another sovereign country!
And that goes for a Canadian court that might try to inflict THEIR court's decision on the US, and it goes for Hamas trying to inflict THEIR court's decision on Israel proper!  NEITHER would be tolerated, nor should they be!

And there's nothing inconsistent about that!
 

jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:59 am

so now canada has powerless courts. 

but every israel court has powers. lol

They are powerless IN THE US!
They have as much power to do whatever the hell they want IN CANADA, you fool!
And yes, Israel likewise has the power to decide who they want to allow IN THEIR COUNTRY!

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
And why can't YOU answer MY question, even after I've answered about a dozen of yours?
 

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 9:29 am

So what's your problem?
How can you possibly say that God didn't intend for that to happen?


 

where did I say that God did not intend that to happen?

 

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 11:02 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 11:02 am

And yes, Israel likewise has the power to decide who they want to allow IN THEIR COUNTRY!

Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
And why can't YOU answer MY question, even after I've answered about a dozen of yours?

the reason that israel has anything is because of all the weapons sent to israel, mainly from the US. for decades. if israel did not receive money and weapons from the US it would be a lot different. and israel takes advantage and sets the rules and laws for it's own benefit. this includes starving gaza who gets no help from anyone.


 

Zeets2 » 07 Sep 2024, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 11:00 am

Hey stupid!
A FOREIGN court has NO JURISDICTION WHATSOEVER to inflict THEIR laws or THEIR court decisions on another sovereign country!
And that goes for a Canadian court that might try to inflict THEIR court's decision on the US, and it goes for Hamas trying to inflict THEIR court's decision on Israel proper!  NEITHER would be tolerated, nor should they be!

And there's nothing inconsistent about that!

america sets the laws in israel and gives israel  the ability to inflict whatever it wants to do. if israel did not have the backing of the united states it would be a lot diffenent, america is the cause of all conflict in israel because it always sides with israel and gives weapons and money from american tax payers.
 

Mrkelly » 07 Sep 2024, 10:00 am » wrote: ↑

07 Sep 2024, 10:00 am

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