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Zeets2 » 08 Sep 2024, 3:06 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 3:06 pm

These reports show which one of us is telling lies, liar:

Oh, and I REALLY love this one:

Understand it now, fool?  
EVEN WHEN WARNED BY ISRAEL OF AN IMPENDING ATTACK, HAMAS TELLS CIVILIANS TO STAY PUT, IT'S ONLY PROPAGANDA!
 
Do you need MORE proof?

https://apnews.com/article/israel-pales ... 9a632835a3

Thousands of Palestinians, many carrying backpacks and accompanied by children, walked down dusty roads under the scorching sun. Dilapidated cars with belongings tied on top maneuvered past buildings flattened by previous strikes. Many Palestinians have been uprooted multiple times in search of safety during Israel’s air and ground campaign.“We do not know where we are walking,” said Kholoud Al Dadas, as she clutched her children. “This is our seventh or eighth time we have been displaced. While we were sleeping in our homes, they started shooting at us, bombing from everywhere.” Moments later, she collapsed in exhaustion.Reflecting the shrinking space for Palestinians, the new evacuation order reduces by some 10 square kilometers (4 square miles) the 60-square kilometer (23 square mile) “humanitarian zone” to which Israel has been telling Palestinians to flee to escape its offensives.
 

jerrab » 08 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm

Thousands of Palestinians, many carrying backpacks and accompanied by children, walked down dusty roads under the scorching sun. Dilapidated cars with belongings tied on top maneuvered past buildings flattened by previous strikes. Many Palestinians have been uprooted multiple times in search of safety during Israel’s air and ground campaign.“We do not know where we are walking,” said Kholoud Al Dadas, as she clutched her children. “This is our seventh or eighth time we have been displaced. While we were sleeping in our homes, they started shooting at us, bombing from everywhere.” Moments later, she collapsed in exhaustion.Reflecting the shrinking space for Palestinians, the new evacuation order reduces by some 10 square kilometers (4 square miles) the 60-square kilometer (23 square mile) “humanitarian zone” to which Israel has been telling Palestinians to flee to escape its offensives.

So, now that I've disproved your lies about warning civilians before an attack is launched, what's your point here?
That war is bad?
Yup.  I agree!
Maybe Hamas should have thought about the consequences BEFORE they decided to massacre 1200 innocent civilians and take hundreds of hostages who they brutally tortured and murdered as well!

They didn't, and they were fools not to!
And so such stupid people need to die, and unfortunately they'll take hundreds of their supporters with them who have to endure being the collateral damage in war.

Just wondering, did Hamas drop any leaflets or give any warnings to Israelis BEFORE they invaded and massacred those 1200 civilians as Israel has warned those in Gaza repeatedly? 
NO?
GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO ASK THAT AS READILY?
 

Zeets2 » 08 Sep 2024, 3:22 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 3:22 pm

So, now that I've disproved your lies about warning civilians before an attack is launched, what's your point here?
That war is bad?
Yup.  I agree!
Maybe Hamas should have thought about the consequences BEFORE they decided to massacre 1200 innocent civilians and take hundreds of hostages who they brutally tortured and murdered as well!

They didn't, and they were fools not to!
And so such stupid people need to die, and unfortunately they'll take hundreds of their supporters with them who have to endure being the collateral damage in war.

Just wondering, did Hamas drop any leaflets or give any warnings to Israelis BEFORE they invaded and massacred those 1200 civilians as Israel has warned those in Gaza repeatedly? 
NO?
GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO ASK THAT AS READILY?

of all the thousands strikes a few get warnings. you did not 'disprove' a thing.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... rotection/


But the experiences of civilians in Gaza reveal the limits of these efforts, as Israel presses forward with an all-out war against militants in a densely packed enclave with no escape, which humanitarian leaders have likened to “hell on earth.” The Gaza Health Ministry says nearly 16,000 people, the majority of them women and children, have been killed since Israel launched its attacks two months ago in retaliation for the Hamas rampage on Oct. 7.
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Israel is sending a delegation to resume negotiations after weeks of deadlock over a cease-fire deal in Gaza, the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed, as a senior U.S. administration official hailed “a breakthrough on a critical impasse.”
End of carouselGazans reached by The Washington Post say Israel’s high-tech system has been no match for the brutal reality of its military campaign. In the chaos of combat, the Israeli directives are confusing, vague or contradictory, they said, often sending them from one battlefield to another.
 

Zeets2 » 08 Sep 2024, 3:22 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 3:22 pm

Just wondering, did Hamas drop any leaflets or give any warnings to Israelis BEFORE they invaded and massacred those 1200 civilians as Israel has warned those in Gaza repeatedly? 
NO?
GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO ASK THAT AS READILY?

does america give hamas money? no. does america give israel money to buy bombs and weapons? yes and yes. 

Zeets2 » 08 Sep 2024, 3:22 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 3:22 pm

So, now that I've disproved your lies about warning civilians before an attack is launched, what's your point here?
That war is bad?
Yup.  I agree!
Maybe Hamas should have thought about the consequences BEFORE they decided to massacre 1200 innocent civilians and take hundreds of hostages who they brutally tortured and murdered as well!

They didn't, and they were fools not to!
And so such stupid people need to die, and unfortunately they'll take hundreds of their supporters with them who have to endure being the collateral damage in war.

Just wondering, did Hamas drop any leaflets or give any warnings to Israelis BEFORE they invaded and massacred those 1200 civilians as Israel has warned those in Gaza repeatedly? 
NO?
GEE, I WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO ASK THAT AS READILY?

you proved that you  biased when it comes to israel and that israel can do no wrong even when it kicks out over a thousand people out of their homes and that was way before 10 7 and that is just the tip of the ice berg of the unfairness israel treated palestine and gaza the last past decades with the support of america the whole time.

jerrab » 08 Sep 2024, 6:44 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 6:44 pm

you proved that you  biased when it comes to israel and that israel can do no wrong even when it kicks out over a thousand people out of their homes and that was way before 10 7 and that is just the tip of the ice berg of the unfairness israel treated palestine and gaza the last past decades with the support of america the whole time.

Just as you've proved YOUR bias with your willingness to accept FOR OTHERS a continued state of a terrorist war that Hamas alone is responsible for.
So tell me, fool.  When was the last year that Israel HAD NOT been attacked with rockets launched from Gaza?

When a country is so fixated on the absolute destruction of another country that they are willing to massacre civilians by the thousands and will accept no solution other than the total annihilation of the other country, I have no sympathy at all when that country defends itself with WHATEVER offensive action is necessary to stop the attacks.  I put the blame precisely where it belongs and refuse to entertain those opinions of people like you who would NEVER accept that kind of daily life living in fear of random missile attacks for themselves in their own country. 

Anti-Semites like yourself stupidly expect that a country under attack MUST respond proportionately despite having overwhelming military might, simply to prevent people like you from considering them bullies for defending themselves.  And doing that will NEVER end the conflict.  There is NO solution other than the total destruction of Hamas and the installation of a new government that is willing to live peacefully with it's neighbor. 

So cry me a river, Jew hater, as Israel continues to wipe out every single Hamas member left on the planet exactly as they should do and exactly how YOU would expect and demand it if YOUR country was constantly under attack from them!
 

jerrab » 08 Sep 2024, 4:50 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 4:50 pm

does america give hamas money? no. does america give israel money to buy bombs and weapons? yes and yes.

You're obviously quite ill-informed on the subject and it really isn't my desire to humiliate you for such a lack of knowledge on the subject:

A look at the billions of dollars in foreign aid to GazaBy  THE ASSOCIATED PRESS December 20, 2021
Here’s a look at the main forms of international aid to Gaza:

— From 2014-2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone. More than 80% of that funding is channeled through the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees, who make up three-fourths of Gaza’s population. Some 280,000 children in Gaza attend schools run by UNRWA, which also provides health services and food aid.

— The U.S. has spent at least $5.5 million in Gaza this year on cash assistance and health care, in addition to contributing $90 million to UNRWA operations in Gaza and the occupied West Bank.

The United States Announces $404 Million of Additional Humanitarian Assistance for Gaza, West Bank, and the RegionUSAID June 11, 2024
Today, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced $404 million in additional humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the region during a humanitarian conference in Jordan. This new funding  includes $64 million through USAID to support partners on the ground to provide urgently required food assistance to Palestinians in need and critical logistics support to coordinate delivery of humanitarian goods to and across Gaza.

The humanitarian situation in Gaza is dire, and this additional funding provided through USAID, which includes support provided under the recently passed bipartisan National Security Supplemental, will support UN partner the World Food Program (WFP) to surge crucial food assistance to people experiencing high levels of food insecurity and support treatment for malnutrition in children throughout Gaza and the West Bank. 

In addition, this announcement includes $340 million in funding through the State Department to provide essential immediate and medium-term support to vulnerable Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the region, including through the provision of safe drinking water, health care, protection, education, shelter, and psychosocial support.

That brings the total humanitarian aid that the United States has announced for Palestinians since the beginning of the conflict to more than $674 million. The United States continues to work around the clock to overcome diplomatic and operational hurdles for humanitarian access and significantly scale up the amount of assistance reaching vulnerable populations in Gaza and the West Bank.

So tell me now.  How is it that the people of Gaza are SO poor and destitute when they've received $4.5 BILLION in aid over the last few years for just a couple of million people living there?  If you truly wish to be unbiased, why don't you look at how Hamas has spent that money to build weapons, tunnels, and missiles to attack Israel with, while the people of Gaza are among the poorest in the world.

jerrab » 08 Sep 2024, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Sep 2024, 4:44 pm

of all the thousands strikes a few get warnings. you did not 'disprove' a thing.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... rotection/

But the experiences of civilians in Gaza reveal the limits of these efforts, as Israel presses forward with an all-out war against militants in a densely packed enclave with no escape, which humanitarian leaders have likened to “hell on earth.” The Gaza Health Ministry says nearly 16,000 people, the majority of them women and children, have been killed since Israel launched its attacks two months ago in retaliation for the Hamas rampage on Oct. 7.
Skip to end of carouselMiddle East conflict

Israel is sending a delegation to resume negotiations after weeks of deadlock over a cease-fire deal in Gaza, the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed, as a senior U.S. administration official hailed “a breakthrough on a critical impasse.”
End of carouselGazans reached by The Washington Post say Israel’s high-tech system has been no match for the brutal reality of its military campaign. In the chaos of combat, the Israeli directives are confusing, vague or contradictory, they said, often sending them from one battlefield to another.

I see no reason that Israel is obligated to give ANY warnings about their planned attacks.  It gives Hamas time to save themselves and their weapons from being destroyed and does nothing but prolong the war.

Since you're SO concerned about the harm inflicted on innocent civilians in Gaza, where is your concern for the 1200+ who were raped, tortured, and massacred along with a handful of Americans who they murdered?

As far as I'm concerned, when another country takes our countrymen as hostages and holds them for ransom before murdering them, Biden should have demanded their release IMMEDIATELY and threatened DIRECT retaliation from US warships if they did not release them!  Needless to say, he should have IMMEDIATELY cut off all aid to Gaza, including the most ridiculous expenditure which was to build Gaza a multi-million dollar port SO WE COULD SEND THEM MORE AID!  Of course that turned out to be a failure and a complete waste of money, and just added yet another example of the complete incompetence of the Biden/Harris team.
 

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 9:43 am

I see no reason that Israel is obligated to give ANY warnings about their planned attacks.  It gives Hamas time to save themselves and their weapons from being destroyed and does nothing but prolong the war.

Since you're SO concerned about the harm inflicted on innocent civilians in Gaza, where is your concern for the 1200+ who were raped, tortured, and massacred along with a handful of Americans who they murdered?

As far as I'm concerned, when another country takes our countrymen as hostages and holds them for ransom before murdering them, Biden should have demanded their release IMMEDIATELY and threatened DIRECT retaliation from US warships if they did not release them!  Needless to say, he should have IMMEDIATELY cut off all aid to Gaza, including the most ridiculous expenditure which was to build Gaza a multi-million dollar port SO WE COULD SEND THEM MORE AID!  Of course that turned out to be a failure and a complete waste of money, and just added yet another example of the complete incompetence of the Biden/Harris team.

and you find it fine and good that israel evicted over a thousand people.

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 9:23 am

You're obviously quite ill-informed on the subject and it really isn't my desire to humiliate you for such a lack of knowledge on the subject:

So tell me now.  How is it that the people of Gaza are SO poor and destitute when they've received $4.5 BILLION in aid over the last few years for just a couple of million people living there?  If you truly wish to be unbiased, why don't you look at how Hamas has spent that money to build weapons, tunnels, and missiles to attack Israel with, while the people of Gaza are among the poorest in the world.

how come they needed so much in food assistance?

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The United States Announces $404 Million of Additional Humanitarian Assistance for Gaza, West Bank, and the RegionUSAID June 11, 2024
Today, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced $404 million in additional humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the region during a humanitarian conference in Jordan. This new funding  includes $64 million through USAID to support partners on the ground to provide urgently required food assistance to Palestinians in need and critical logistics support to coordinate delivery of humanitarian goods to and across Gaza.

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 8:55 am

Just as you've proved YOUR bias with your willingness to accept FOR OTHERS a continued state of a terrorist war that Hamas alone is responsible for.
So tell me, fool.  When was the last year that Israel HAD NOT been attacked with rockets launched from Gaza?

When a country is so fixated on the absolute destruction of another country that they are willing to massacre civilians by the thousands and will accept no solution other than the total annihilation of the other country, I have no sympathy at all when that country defends itself with WHATEVER offensive action is necessary to stop the attacks.  I put the blame precisely where it belongs and refuse to entertain those opinions of people like you who would NEVER accept that kind of daily life living in fear of random missile attacks for themselves in their own country. 

Anti-Semites like yourself stupidly expect that a country under attack MUST respond proportionately despite having overwhelming military might, simply to prevent people like you from considering them bullies for defending themselves.  And doing that will NEVER end the conflict.  There is NO solution other than the total destruction of Hamas and the installation of a new government that is willing to live peacefully with it's neighbor. 

So cry me a river, Jew hater, as Israel continues to wipe out every single Hamas member left on the planet exactly as they should do and exactly how YOU would expect and demand it if YOUR country was constantly under attack from them!

it is israel who wants to wipe out/evict gaza, palestine.

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 8:55 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 8:55 am

Just as you've proved YOUR bias with your willingness to accept FOR OTHERS a continued state of a terrorist war that Hamas alone is responsible for.
So tell me, fool.  When was the last year that Israel HAD NOT been attacked with rockets launched from Gaza?

When a country is so fixated on the absolute destruction of another country that they are willing to massacre civilians by the thousands and will accept no solution other than the total annihilation of the other country, I have no sympathy at all when that country defends itself with WHATEVER offensive action is necessary to stop the attacks.  I put the blame precisely where it belongs and refuse to entertain those opinions of people like you who would NEVER accept that kind of daily life living in fear of random missile attacks for themselves in their own country. 

Anti-Semites like yourself stupidly expect that a country under attack MUST respond proportionately despite having overwhelming military might, simply to prevent people like you from considering them bullies for defending themselves.  And doing that will NEVER end the conflict.  There is NO solution other than the total destruction of Hamas and the installation of a new government that is willing to live peacefully with it's neighbor. 

So cry me a river, Jew hater, as Israel continues to wipe out every single Hamas member left on the planet exactly as they should do and exactly how YOU would expect and demand it if YOUR country was constantly under attack from them!

https://youtu.be/YFUslv4U-F4?si=fJKL27o-wIQImo4e

jerrab » 09 Sep 2024, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 11:13 am

https://youtu.be/YFUslv4U-F4?si=fJKL27o-wIQImo4e

You keep pointing to the hardships of war in Gaza and I keep replying THAT I DON'T GIVE A **** HOW BADLY GAZA IS SUFFERING!
THEY elected Hamas, and THEY continue to support them, SO THEY DESERVE WHATEVER FATE THAT SUPPORT COSTS THEM!
YES, war is hell!
YES, innocent people die!
YES, they will CONTINUE to die as long as Hamas refuses to live in peace with Israel.

HAMAS brought this war on themselves and they deserve to be totally annihilated for their massacre of 1200 innocent Israeli civilians!
And Israel should make sure that every last Hamas member is dead before they choose to stop wiping them out!
 

jerrab » 09 Sep 2024, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 11:11 am

it is israel who wants to wipe out/evict gaza, palestine.

WRONG!
They want to wipe out HAMAS, who has declared war on Israel!  And Israel has EVERY **** RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES by destroying Hamas!
And if everyone else in Gaza truly want to live in peace, then they should elect a peaceful government AFTER Hamas is completely destroyed!
 

jerrab » 09 Sep 2024, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 11:09 am

how come they needed so much in food assistance?

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The United States Announces $404 Million of Additional Humanitarian Assistance for Gaza, West Bank, and the RegionUSAID June 11, 2024
Today, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced $404 million in additional humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the region during a humanitarian conference in Jordan. This new funding  includes $64 million through USAID to support partners on the ground to provide urgently required food assistance to Palestinians in need and critical logistics support to coordinate delivery of humanitarian goods to and across Gaza.

Simple, fool!
Because HAMAS does NOT let that food and medicine GO TO THE PEOPLE OF GAZA!
They steal it for themselves and to feed their terrorist army!
When have they EVER shown that they give a **** what happens to their people?
They force them to remain in place after Israel has warned them of an imminent attack, they house their weapons and missile launchers in schools and hospitals, and they are responsible for the extreme poverty and unemployment in their country while receiving billions in aide.  

Gaza is plagued by poverty, but Hamas has no shortage of cash. Where does it come from?
Hamas has an investment portfolio of real estate and other assets worth $500 million, say experts, and an annual military budget of as much as $350 million.
Oct. 25, 2023, 
By Dan De Luce and Lisa Cavazuti

The unemployment rate in Gaza is 47% and more than 80% of its population lives in poverty, according to the United Nations. Hamas, however, has funded an armed force of thousands equipped with rockets and drones and built a vast web of tunnels under Gaza. Estimates of its annual military budget range from $100 million to $350 million, according to Israeli and Palestinian sources. 

Since coming to power in the Gaza Strip 17 years ago, Hamas has filled its coffers with hundreds of millions in international aid, overt and covert injections of cash from Iran and other ideological partners, as well as cryptocurrency, taxes, extortion and smuggling, according to current and former U.S. officials and regional experts.

The government of every country gets to decide where their money should go.  And it's clear that Gaza prefers to have their people suffer in poverty rather than live in peace with their neighbor.

My solution would be to cut off aide entirely to Gaza, since virtually none of it is reaching the people there anyway, and all we're doing is funding the Hamas war effort to continue unabated.
 

jerrab » 09 Sep 2024, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 11:07 am

and you find it fine and good that israel evicted over a thousand people.

Yes I do, 100%!
Just as I would support 100% the Trump effort to deport every one of the millions of illegals that Biden/Harris has welcomed into our country, starting with the terrorists, the assorted petty criminals, the drug dealers, the human traffickers, the gang members, and the pedophiles.

If Israel has found that those 1000 people were Hamas members, supporters or terrorists themselves, who the hell are YOU to tell them they must be allowed to stay in the country they've pledged to destroy?
 

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 11:32 am

You keep pointing to the hardships of war in Gaza and I keep replying THAT I DON'T GIVE A **** HOW BADLY GAZA IS SUFFERING!
THEY elected Hamas, and THEY continue to support them, SO THEY DESERVE WHATEVER FATE THAT SUPPORT COSTS THEM!
YES, war is hell!
YES, innocent people die!
YES, they will CONTINUE to die as long as Hamas refuses to live in peace with Israel.

HAMAS brought this war on themselves and they deserve to be totally annihilated for their massacre of 1200 innocent Israeli civilians!
And Israel should make sure that every last Hamas member is dead before they choose to stop wiping them out!

this is not new. and the victims of 10/7 were victims of the israel government and the american government for siding with the settlers. america and israel are both responsible for creating the unjust atmosphere.

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https://www.crisisgroup.org/middle-east ... r-violence

What’s new? Israel’s devastating war with Hamas in Gaza has diverted attention from systemic and growing violence by Israeli settlers against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank. Increasingly, the settlers are acting in concert with the army or wearing army uniforms themselves. They enjoy the active support of far-right Israeli government ministers.Why does it matter?  Settler violence, which has gone unchecked for years, is both a manifestation and a driver of Israel’s settlement enterprise. Some 730,000 Israelis now live in West Bank settlements (including in East Jerusalem), rendering resolution of the conflict an ever more remote possibility.
 

jerrab » 09 Sep 2024, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 2:23 pm

this is not new. and the victims of 10/7 were victims of the israel government and the american government for siding with the settlers. america and israel are both responsible for creating the unjust atmosphere.

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https://www.crisisgroup.org/middle-east ... r-violence

What’s new? Israel’s devastating war with Hamas in Gaza has diverted attention from systemic and growing violence by Israeli settlers against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank. Increasingly, the settlers are acting in concert with the army or wearing army uniforms themselves. They enjoy the active support of far-right Israeli government ministers.Why does it matter?  Settler violence, which has gone unchecked for years, is both a manifestation and a driver of Israel’s settlement enterprise. Some 730,000 Israelis now live in West Bank settlements (including in East Jerusalem), rendering resolution of the conflict an ever more remote possibility.

OK, so they had an "unjust atmosphere"! 
Oh, woe is me!
And to you, that's ample justification to rape, torture, and murder over 1200, civilians in Israel, huh?

Go ahead!  Let's see if you'll finally admit that you think the Hamas terrorists were justified in that massacre because of that "unjust atmosphere"!
Then tell me how THAT "atmosphere" is any different than the slums of Chicago, Baltimore, or St. Louis where the poorest Americans live in an atmosphere made just as dangerous by the drug dealers, the gangs, and the rampant crime in THEIR neighborhoods?

It's time you mind your own **** business and deal with YOUR OWN country's poor and destitute and stop weeping your crocodile tears over how another country deals with terrorists in THEIR neighborhoods!
 

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm

OK, so they had an "unjust atmosphere"! 
Oh, woe is me!
And to you, that's ample justification to rape, torture, and murder over 1200, civilians in Israel, huh?

Go ahead!  Let's see if you'll finally admit that you think the Hamas terrorists were justified in that massacre because of that "unjust atmosphere"!
Then tell me how THAT "atmosphere" is any different than the slums of Chicago, Baltimore, or St. Louis where the poorest Americans live in an atmosphere made just as dangerous by the drug dealers, the gangs, and the rampant crime in THEIR neighborhoods?

It's time you mind your own **** business and deal with YOUR OWN country's poor and destitute and stop weeping your crocodile tears over how another country deals with terrorists in THEIR neighborhoods!

I am including you as a reason for 10/7. israel gets its undivided support in treating palestine and gaza like crap from assholes like you.
 

Zeets2 » 09 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm

OK, so they had an "unjust atmosphere"! 
Oh, woe is me!
And to you, that's ample justification to rape, torture, and murder over 1200, civilians in Israel, huh?

Go ahead!  Let's see if you'll finally admit that you think the Hamas terrorists were justified in that massacre because of that "unjust atmosphere"!
Then tell me how THAT "atmosphere" is any different than the slums of Chicago, Baltimore, or St. Louis where the poorest Americans live in an atmosphere made just as dangerous by the drug dealers, the gangs, and the rampant crime in THEIR neighborhoods?

It's time you mind your own **** business and deal with YOUR OWN country's poor and destitute and stop weeping your crocodile tears over how another country deals with terrorists in THEIR neighborhoods!

who goes into st louis neighborhoods to kick everyone out of their homes?

NO ONE