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jerrab » 13 Sep 2024, 5:12 pm » wrote: ---------------------------------------

 The Naksa was a continuation of a prior central event that paved the way for the 1967 war. Nineteen years earlier, in 1948, the state of Israel came into being in a violent process that entailed the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.The territories that Israel occupied in 1967, shaded in Green.Zionist forces, in their mission to create a “Jewish state”, expelled over 750,000 Palestinians from their homeland, destroyed over 530 Palestinian villages in the process, and committed an organized campaign of massacres and atrocities , of which 156 were recorded in Table 3.2 Atlas of Palestine 1917- 1966. Shortly after Israel declared statehood, units of the neighbouring Arab country armies came in to fight for the Palestinian nation.The 1948 war ended with Israeli forces controlling approximately 78 percent of historical Palestine. The remaining 22 percent fell under the administration of Egypt and Jordan.In 1967, Israel absorbed the whole of historical Palestine, as well as additional territory from Egypt and Syria. By the end of the war, Israel had expelled over 300,000 Palestinians from their homes, including 130,000 who were displaced in 1948, and gained territory that was three and a half times its size.The narrative of the war is highly polarised, as is common for many events in the Arab-Israeli conflict. There exists, however, a series of events that undeniably led to the outbreak of the war.Firstly, there were frequent clashes on the Israeli-Syrian and Israeli-Jordanian armistice lines after the 1948 war. Thousands of Palestinian refugees tried to cross the border searching for relatives, attempting to return to their homes and to recover their lost possessions.Between 1949 to 1956, it is estimated that Israeli forces shot dead between 2,000 to 5,000 people who tried to cross.
You think I need a history lesson from the likes of you?
Drag your dumb *** into THIS century and take a look at how an intelligent country that has balls deals with terrorists today:
Israel destroys underground missile factory built by Iran 
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The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) carried out a successful raid in Syria earlier this week, targeting a sophisticated underground missile factory built by Iran to supply Hezbollah with precision medium-range missiles. The raid, conducted by the Israeli Air Force's elite Shaldag unit, was the first known ground operation by Israel in Syrian territory in years. According to a report by Axios, the destruction of the facility dealt a significant blow to Iran and Hezbollah's efforts to produce missiles used to target Israel. The operation took place in western Syria near the Lebanese border, with the Israeli Air Force conducting a bombing campaign to prevent Syrian military reinforcements from reaching the site.

 Some experts suggest that the raid could indicate how Israel may address Iran's nuclear facilities as the country moves closer to obtaining nuclear weapons. This is partly due to what some perceive as a lack of deterrence from the Biden-Harris administration.Overall, the raid represents a strategic move by Israel to disrupt Iran and Hezbollah's missile production capabilities and demonstrates the country's commitment to defending itself against threats from its adversaries in the region.
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 13 Sep 2024, 4:46 pm » wrote: Hamas is only in Gaza, and it was installed by israeli intelligence. Yet the israelis are still brutalizing palis in the west bank - stealing what little land they have left and murdering any who don't like it.

It appears you don't know **** from shinola, genocide-breath.
Oh yes, how terrible it is that Israel killed Palestinian terrorists who were detonating bombs against them, right?

Grow some balls, sissy, and recognize how a serious country deals with terrorists who refuse to accept Israel's right to exist, whether that be coming from Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, Islamic Jihad or Palestinian militants.  And if they choose to continue their attacks from the West Bank, there will be more severe retaliations from Israel and more of those terrorist you so love will be killed as well, regardless of how anti-Semites like you snivel and cry over dead terrorists!
At least 10 Palestinians killed in major Israeli raids across West Bank
By Ali Sawafta  August 28, 2024

JENIN, West Bank, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Hundreds of Israeli troops backed by helicopters, drones and armoured personnel carriers raided the flashpoint cities of Jenin and Tulkarm and other areas in the occupied West Bank on Wednesday, killing at least 10 Palestinians.
The assault, one of the largest seen in the West Bank for months, followed a series of smaller raids in the area over recent weeks as Israeli forces sought to crush groups of fighters from Palestinian militant groups.
With Israeli forces battling Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip and facing a serious escalation of tensions with Iranian-backed Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, Wednesday's operation underscored the multiple security threats Israel has been battling since the start of the Gaza war last year.
The armed wings of the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Fatah factions said in separate statements their gunmen were detonating bombs against Israeli military vehicles in Jenin, Tulkarm and Far'a, a town in the Jordan Valley.
 
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Thank you, NO!
I'll support the killing of terrorists ANY TIME, whether they be in Gaza, the West Bank, Afghanistan, Iran, or here in the US!

That's a job I'll leave to hand-wringing wimps and coddlers like you.
It's clear to me that you should see a doctor and get a prescription for a pair of testicles as soon as possible!
 
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Majik » 13 Sep 2024, 4:12 pm » wrote: I have met many Muslims that not only DO NOT hate Jews but whom also work, live beside and socialize with Jews .....
and guess where ....
In Israel....
just over 20% of the Israeli population identifies as Muslim......
Which kind of destroys your Narrative ....
The other thing that destroys your chosen narrative is that your question.....
Has already been answered in real time here in North America ....
The Illegal Migrant attacks on North Americans have killed a whole lot more than a measly 1200 hundred like in Israel which is probaby more like 300 that were actually  killed by Palestinians  while the rest were by Israeli security forces .....
Why haven't The Democrat or Republican administrations that have been in charge over the last 2 decades bombed their countries of origin?
Trying to wipe them out just like the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians .....?
Not at all!
When have I EVER made the claim that the thousands of Muslims living in peace in Israel should be killed?  Of course I recognize the fact that there are MANY Muslims, even those living in Gaza or the West Bank who truly want peace.  They are neither members of Hamas, Hezbollah, or any of the other terrorist factions living in the Middle East.  And those living in peace in Israel have nothing to fear from Israel's retaliation, do they?

And the absolute WORST cause of terrorism in this country will soon come as a result of our demented idiot tandem of Biden and Harris who flung open the border to allow thousands of potential terrorist into our country without vetting them!
And I KNOW how you despise that!
I'm quite certain that the US will have no choice in the very near future but to take military action to wipe out those terrorists here just as Israel is doing.  All it will take is having a new president with a pair of balls after the next attack those terrorists cause, which could easily dwarf what was done to us on 9/11.

I suspect you'll change your tune when that kind of terrorism inevitably hits us once again!
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 8:17 am » wrote: Oh yes, how terrible it is that Israel killed Palestinian terrorists who were detonating bombs against them, right?

Grow some balls, sissy, and recognize how a serious country deals with terrorists who refuse to accept Israel's right to exist, 
Whoa, queer - whoa.

Back AWAY from israel's ball sac, you cock-greedy little slut.

It is ISRAEL challenging PALESTINE'S right to exist - not the propaganda you effeminately swallowed and then ******-burped at the board, you queefing fruitcake. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2024, 8:58 am » wrote: Whoa, queer - whoa.

Back AWAY from israel's ball sac, you cock-greedy little slut.

It is ISRAEL challenging PALESTINE'S right to exist - not the propaganda you effeminately swallowed and then ******-burped at the board, you queefing fruitcake.
Oh, so YOU'RE one of those Jew-haters who are actually so ignorant that you believe Israel would not be happy to live in peace with their neighbors, huh?
Why don't you try proving such an idiotic statement?
How many times has Israel entered a peace agreement with Palestinians that was almost immediately broken by Palestinian terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank?
How is it that Israel has kept peace deals with Jordan, Egypt, UAE, Morocco, Bahrain, and Sudan (several thanks to Trump's efforts through the Abraham Accords), all with no problems?
Show me where Israel has EVER put in their charter the complete destruction of all Palestinians similar to how the Hamas charter has sworn to destroy every Jew AND HAS NEVER REMOVED IT?
Rabid anti-Semites like yourself quietly cheer for Hamas terrorists when they massacre over 1200 Israeli civilians, even as they take hundreds of hostages, SOME OF THEM AMERICAN, and then murder them instead of showing their peaceful intentions by returning all of them in a negotiated truce.
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 9:23 am » wrote: Oh, so YOU'RE one of those Jew-haters who are actually so ignorant that you believe Israel would not be happy to live in peace with their neighbors, huh?
Why don't you try proving such an idiotic statement?
How many times has Israel entered a peace agreement with Palestinians that was almost immediately broken by Palestinian terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank?
How is it that Israel has kept peace deals with Jordan, Egypt, UAE, Morocco, Bahrain, and Sudan (several thanks to Trump's efforts through the Abraham Accords), all with no problems?
Show me where Israel has EVER put in their charter the complete destruction of all Palestinians similar to how the Hamas charter has sworn to destroy every Jew AND HAS NEVER REMOVED IT?
Rabid anti-Semites like yourself quietly cheer for Hamas terrorists when they massacre over 1200 Israeli civilians, even as they take hundreds of hostages, SOME OF THEM AMERICAN, and then murder them instead of showing their peaceful intentions by returning all of them in a negotiated truce.
 show were israel wants to live in peace with palestine. 

the evictions prove that israel DOESN'T.


 
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jerrab » 14 Sep 2024, 11:11 am » wrote:  show were israel wants to live in peace with palestine. 

the evictions prove that israel DOESN'T.
****!
All the evictions prove is that Israel is cautious enough to take pro-active measures to defend themselves against suspected terrorists.
When was the last time Israel took UNPROVOKED military action against Gaza?
 
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jerra b » 14 Sep 2024, 11:11 am » wrote:  show were israel wants to live in peace with palestine. 

the evictions prove that israel DOESN'T.


 
When people compromise in life to agree to disagree how evolving naturally happens as each faith is promised their people inherit the earth, just which side gives up trying to inherit the earth tomorrow?
Genetics evolves the lifetimes adapting as displaced today, regardless what day it gets called by humans adapting to space now since rotation conceived.

6 degrees of corruption: means, motives, methods, mayhem, madness, misery put upon anyone not complying with people agreeing to disagree who's who today.

This species has only 5 races each having upto 5 generation gaps living daily. That includes all 8.2 billion here now.
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 11:14 am » wrote: ****!
All the evictions prove is that Israel is cautious enough to take pro-active measures to defend themselves against suspected terrorists.
When was the last time Israel took UNPROVOKED military action against Gaza?

bulldozing villages. 
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 11:14 am » wrote: ****!
All the evictions prove is that Israel is cautious enough to take pro-active measures to defend themselves against suspected terrorists.
When was the last time Israel took UNPROVOKED military action against Gaza?
 https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... gregation/
 
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 11:14 am » wrote: ****!
All the evictions prove is that Israel is cautious enough to take pro-active measures to defend themselves against suspected terrorists.
When was the last time Israel took UNPROVOKED military action against Gaza?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... gev-naqab/

The Israeli authorities’ demolition on 8 May 2024 of 47 homes in Wadi al-Khalil, an unrecognized Palestinian/Bedouin village in the Negev/Naqab, without proper consultation or compensation underscores the urgency to dismantle Israel’s apartheid system, said Amnesty International toda
 
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 11:14 am » wrote: ****!
All the evictions prove is that Israel is cautious enough to take pro-active measures to defend themselves against suspected terrorists.
When was the last time Israel took UNPROVOKED military action against Gaza?

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jerrab » 14 Sep 2024, 12:06 pm » wrote: ed 17 Aug 2005 13.23 EDT
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/aug/17/israel4

Thousands of Israeli troops evicted Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip today amid anger, grief and isolated acts of violence.The actual removals - which have seen troops dragging some settlers out kicking and screaming - have taken place amid high emotion but little physical confrontation.But three people were killed this afternoon when an Israeli man opened fire on Palestinians he was driving to their jobs in a West Bank settlement unaffected by the pullout.
Hey stupid!
This was a conciliatory attempt by Israel to seek a negotiated peace with Hamas by evicting over 8,000 Jews from their homes in Gaza.
And did that help to appease Hamas?
NO, IT DID NOT!
Hamas took over the strip and immediately turned it into a launching pad for rocket attacks on Israeli population centers, while Gaza’s evicted settlers began advocating for Israel to retake and resettle the territory. 

Thanks for proving my point that Hamas HAS NEVER lived up to any peace deal with Israel, despite the Israeli effort to accede to the Hamas demand even at the expense of their own people!  And reneging on the peace agreements they made, Hamas immediately returned to their singular goal of destroying the Israeli state after Israel had already kept their end of the deal.

And THAT is why EVERY TERRORIST MEMBER OF HAMAS NEEDS TO BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!
 
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: Hey stupid!
This was a conciliatory attempt by Israel to seek a negotiated peace with Hamas by evicting over 8,000 Jews from their homes in Gaza.
And did that help to appease Hamas?
NO, IT DID NOT!
Hamas took over the strip and immediately turned it into a launching pad for rocket attacks on Israeli population centers, while Gaza’s evicted settlers began advocating for Israel to retake and resettle the territory. 

Thanks for proving my point that Hamas HAS NEVER lived up to any peace deal with Israel, despite the Israeli effort to accede to the Hamas demand even at the expense of their own people!  And reneging on the peace agreements they made, Hamas immediately returned to their singular goal of destroying the Israeli state after Israel had already kept their end of the deal.

And THAT is why EVERY TERRORIST MEMBER OF HAMAS NEEDS TO BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!
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The Israeli authorities’ demolition on 8 May 2024 of 47 homes in Wadi al-Khalil, an unrecognized Palestinian/Bedouin village in the Negev/Naqab, without proper consultation or compensation underscores the urgency to dismantle Israel’s apartheid system, said Amnesty International toda
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: Hey stupid!
This was a conciliatory attempt by Israel to seek a negotiated peace with Hamas by evicting over 8,000 Jews from their homes in Gaza.
And did that help to appease Hamas?
NO, IT DID NOT!
Hamas took over the strip and immediately turned it into a launching pad for rocket attacks on Israeli population centers, while Gaza’s evicted settlers began advocating for Israel to retake and resettle the territory. 

Thanks for proving my point that Hamas HAS NEVER lived up to any peace deal with Israel, despite the Israeli effort to accede to the Hamas demand even at the expense of their own people!  And reneging on the peace agreements they made, Hamas immediately returned to their singular goal of destroying the Israeli state after Israel had already kept their end of the deal.

And THAT is why EVERY TERRORIST MEMBER OF HAMAS NEEDS TO BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 12:37 pm » wrote: Hey stupid!
This was a conciliatory attempt by Israel to seek a negotiated peace with Hamas by evicting over 8,000 Jews from their homes in Gaza.
And did that help to appease Hamas?
NO, IT DID NOT!
Hamas took over the strip and immediately turned it into a launching pad for rocket attacks on Israeli population centers, while Gaza’s evicted settlers began advocating for Israel to retake and resettle the territory. 

Thanks for proving my point that Hamas HAS NEVER lived up to any peace deal with Israel, despite the Israeli effort to accede to the Hamas demand even at the expense of their own people!  And reneging on the peace agreements they made, Hamas immediately returned to their singular goal of destroying the Israeli state after Israel had already kept their end of the deal.

And THAT is why EVERY TERRORIST MEMBER OF HAMAS NEEDS TO BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

hey stupid.

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Yes, it's called the Right of Eminent Domain, which is also guaranteed by the US and codified in the 5th Amendment of the Constitution.
Those settlements in E. Jerusalem were Israeli territory, seized in the 1967 war.   Since the Palestinians refused to concede ownership of the territory to Israel and live under their jurisdiction of Israel according to the compromise offered by the Israeli Supreme Court, they were forcibly evicted.

You want to blame Israel for winning the war that the Arab countries all launched against them and that's too damn bad!

Apparently, you want to deny that same right to another sovereign country and force Israel to give up control of the land they won, despite the fact that a Palestinian appeal was heard and rejected by the Israeli Supreme Court. 
And you expect others to feel bad about that?

The lesson here that you reuse to learn is that when you start a war and lose, the winning country gets to determine how to use the land they've won in the war, and the previous owners have ZERO RIGHTS TO THAT LAND ANY LONGER!

So cry me a river, Jew-hater!

 
 
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jerrab » 14 Sep 2024, 12:34 pm » wrote: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... gev-naqab/

The Israeli authorities’ demolition on 8 May 2024 of 47 homes in Wadi al-Khalil, an unrecognized Palestinian/Bedouin village in the Negev/Naqab, without proper consultation or compensation underscores the urgency to dismantle Israel’s apartheid system, said Amnesty International toda
Wadi al-Khalil, an unrecognized Palestinian/Bedouin village

Do you really think it would be ANY different if Mexico attempted to settle territory in the US after they lost the Mexican-American war in 1847?  At that time, Mexico REFUSED to give up their land that Mexico previously controlled, then ceded to the United States in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848 after US troops had gone deep into Mexico and even taken over Mexico City.

You want to deny to other countries the exact same authority that we in the US imposed on Mexico as Israel is imposing on the Palestinians for no other reason than your hatred of Jews.
And that's too damn bad because it ain't about to happen! 
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Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: Yes, it's called the Right of Eminent Domain, which is also guaranteed by the US and codified in the 5th Amendment of the Constitution.
Those settlements in E. Jerusalem were Israeli territory, seized in the 1967 war.   Since the Palestinians refused to concede ownership of the territory to Israel and live under their jurisdiction of Israel according to the compromise offered by the Israeli Supreme Court, they were forcibly evicted.

You want to blame Israel for winning the war that the Arab countries all launched against them and that's too damn bad!

Apparently, you want to deny that same right to another sovereign country and force Israel to give up control of the land they won, despite the fact that a Palestinian appeal was heard and rejected by the Israeli Supreme Court. 
And you expect others to feel bad about that?

The lesson here that you reuse to learn is that when you start a war and lose, the winning country gets to determine how to use the land they've won in the war, and the previous owners have ZERO RIGHTS TO THAT LAND ANY LONGER!

So cry me a river, Jew-hater!
and if it was not america's weapons they would have gotten it back.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/tim ... 20military.


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In response to Israeli losses and encouraged by Soviet support of Egypt and Syria, the United States, after much deliberation, decided to intervene on behalf of Israel. The United States offered Israel a full-scale airlift of military equipment on October 10. This U.S. assistance served to replenish Israeli forces and Israel launched an offensive that retook most of it territorial losses and even gained some ground against both the Egyptians and Syrians. Arab members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries responded to the U.S. airlift by organizing an oil embargo against the United States.
 
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