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Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm

I do, you dickhead!  Show me where I EVER advocated putting Israel before the US you lying scumbag!

The minute you defended taking ONE PENNY of my taxes and giving it to another country, you socialist broad, you put America second.

If you want israel - or ukraine, or anyone else - to have American money, SEND THEM YOURS. Not mine, you socialist fruitcake.

Cannonpointer » 15 Sep 2024, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 2:59 pm

The minute you defended taking ONE PENNY of my taxes and giving it to another country, you socialist broad, you put America second.

If you want israel - or ukraine, or anyone else - to have American money, SEND THEM YOURS. Not mine, you socialist fruitcake.

Maybe if morons like you hadn't voted against Trump, SENDING MONEY TO UKRAINE AND ISRAEL MAY NOT HAVE BEEN NECESSARY!
And on top of that, thanks to YOUR vote, Biden IS SPENDING YOUR TAX DOLLARS ON BUY OIL FROM RUSSIA, IRAN, AND VENEZUELA, all while selling off our Strategic Oil Reserves TO **** CHINA so his corrupt son could earn a few million dollars that ALSO come out of YOUR pocket!

So thanks a lot for your stupid vote, asshole!

But no, you pussied out by refusing to vote for Trump, and now you think you're free to whine about it!

And if you want to earn even a modicum of respect from me, tell me that you ALSO don't wish us to be part of NATO or the UN, the World Health Organization, 
World Intellectual Property Organization, World Meteorological Organization, World Trade Organization, the International Energy Forum, the Paris Climate Accords, or The United States Climate Alliance.

Because EVERY ONE of those organizations is far less deserving of a dime of our taxpayer money than supporting our allies is!

 

Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm

Why can't you get it through your thick, Jew-hating head that ANY SOVEREIGN COUNTRY IS FREE TO EVICT ANYONE FOR ANY REASON FROM THEIR TERRITORY, especially when they're advocates for Hamas!
Israel WON THE TERRITORY OF E. Jerusalem AFTER BEING ATTACKED FROM THAT REGION!
And the truce DID NOT INCLUDE ANY AGREEMENT TO LEAVE POTENTIAL ENEMIES IN THAT AREA!

Got it now?

all it takes is for russia to join in, israel would change its's tune real fast. and america should not do anything.
 

Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm

Why can't you get it through your thick, Jew-hating head that ANY SOVEREIGN COUNTRY IS FREE TO EVICT ANYONE FOR ANY REASON FROM THEIR TERRITORY, especially when they're advocates for Hamas!
Israel WON THE TERRITORY OF E. Jerusalem AFTER BEING ATTACKED FROM THAT REGION!
And the truce DID NOT INCLUDE ANY AGREEMENT TO LEAVE POTENTIAL ENEMIES IN THAT AREA!

Got it now?

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Sep 15, 2020Netanyahu and United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed display their copies of signed agreements while Trump looks on as they participate in the signing ceremony of the Abraham Accords at the White House on September 15, 2020.Tom Brenner / ReutersRelations between Some Arab Countries and Israel NormalizeBahrain and the United Arab Emirates agree to normalize diplomatic relations with Israel, becoming the first Arab countries to do so in over twenty-five years. In return, Israel announces the suspension of its plans to annex territory in the West Bank. Morocco and Sudan subsequently also sign on to the agreement and normalize relations with Israel.
 

jerrab » 15 Sep 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:39 pm

all it takes is for russia to join in, israel would change its's tune real fast. and america should not do anything.

why should we go into ww3 over the right for israel to keep evictions?

Does Russia support Palestine or Israel?
Russia continues to support the creation of a Palestinian State to achieve lasting peace in the Middle East. Palestine has separate governments in the Gaza Strip (Hamas) and the West Bank (Fatah) after a brief civil war in 2007.

Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 3:18 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:18 pm

Maybe if morons like you hadn't voted against Trump, SENDING MONEY TO UKRAINE AND ISRAEL MAY NOT HAVE BEEN NECESSARY!

FIRST, MORON, trump sent my money to israel and will send them my money again. Like you, he puts israel first and america second.

SECOND, it is ALWAYS necessary to send money to israel, you dick sucking America-second quisling, or AIPAC will decide you have to retire from politics.

THIRD, Trump won the election, you fruit. My vote had no more to do with who is Pretendident than yours did.
 

china does not like israel either. america should think hard and deep continuuing backing israel.

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How does China feel about Israel?
Though relations are close and generally good with no particular bilateral problems between the two nations, China and Israel continue to remain divided on the issue of Palestine, Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, economic blockade of Gaza, and the Israeli West Bank barrier wall.

Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 2:31 pm

If we had elected Trump like I voted, WE WOULDN'T NOW BE FACED WITH THIS WOKE **** YOU'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT!

The Defense Health Agency first approved payment for sex reassignment surgery for an active-duty US military service member in November 2017. The patient was an infantry soldier who identified as a woman, and the surgery was performed at a non-military hospital.

Donald J. Milhouse Trump was in the white house. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOcfy5J2qw

Cannonpointer » 15 Sep 2024, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:50 pm

FIRST, MORON, trump sent my money to israel and will send them my money again. Like you, he puts israel first and america second.

SECOND, it is ALWAYS necessary to send money to israel, you dick sucking America-second quisling, or AIPAC will decide you have to retire from politics.

THIRD, Trump won the election, you fruit. My vote had no more to do with who is Pretendident than yours did.

It is NOT "always necessary" to send them money, you fool!
When we send them jets, tanks, and assorted weapons, at least we're providing good jobs for AMERICAN workers!

See the difference Magoo?

And you refused to vote for Trump in 2020 also, didn't you, pinko?
 

jerrab » 15 Sep 2024, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:42 pm

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Sep 15, 2020Netanyahu and United Arab Emirates Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed display their copies of signed agreements while Trump looks on as they participate in the signing ceremony of the Abraham Accords at the White House on September 15, 2020.Tom Brenner / ReutersRelations between Some Arab Countries and Israel NormalizeBahrain and the United Arab Emirates agree to normalize diplomatic relations with Israel, becoming the first Arab countries to do so in over twenty-five years. In return, Israel announces the suspension of its plans to annex territory in the West Bank. Morocco and Sudan subsequently also sign on to the agreement and normalize relations with Israel.

So what's your point?
That you've suddenly realized what I've been telling you is 100% accurate?
Israel has SHOWN REPEATEDLY their desire to live in peace with the neighbors, and hold tightly to any peace agreement they sign, unlike EVERY peace deal they've made with Hamas, which only uses a cease fire to rebuilt and relocate their missile attacks for the next wave of war they will use against Israel.

Has Israel launched even a single attack against ANY of those countries that have signed peace agreements with them?
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:10 am

It is NOT "always necessary" to send them money, you fool!

Name one year since israel's founding that you socialists have not picked my pocket on their behalf, fruitcake.

It is ALWAYS necessary - it has NEVER not been necessary.

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:10 am

When we send them jets, tanks, and assorted weapons, at least we're providing good jobs for AMERICAN workers!

If biden sends the same to Iran, are you going to prattle that it's a jobs program, fruitcake?

Let me spend my OWN money. That will "create jobs for American workers." I don't need you to stick your socialist hand in my pocket to create jobs, Guevara.

jerrab » 15 Sep 2024, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:39 pm

all it takes is for russia to join in, israel would change its's tune real fast. and america should not do anything.

How do you figure that?
Didn't Russia ALREADY side with Syria and send them weapons which they used against Israel?
And doesn't the US counter those shipments by sending weapons to Israel?

I seriously doubt that Russia is very interested in sending anyone additional weapons today, as they're far more concerned with fighting Ukraine these days.
But if they did, the US will undoubtedly do the same for Israel if necessary.

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:26 am

Name one year since israel's founding that you socialists have not picked my pocket on their behalf, fruitcake.

It is ALWAYS necessary - it has NEVER not been necessary.

If biden sends the same to Iran, are you going to prattle that it's a jobs program, fruitcake?

Let me spend my OWN money. That will "create jobs for American workers." I don't need you to stick your socialist hand in my pocket to create jobs, Guevara.

I'm telling you why we should NOT send them cash but send them the weapons they need instead!  
Doesn't doing that provide good jobs for Americans at least?
It does provide SOME benefit to the US.

Biden is a traitorous scumbag!  And he's proven that by reducing our own oil production while sending Iran and Russia BILLIONS to buy THEIR oil!
Personally, I see value in supporting the only democracy in the Middle East.
You refuse to see that simply because you're an anti-Semite who hates Jews.  It's really that simple!

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:29 am

How do you figure that?
Didn't Russia ALREADY side with Syria and send them weapons which they used against Israel?

Syria has been defending its border against israeli aggression for the past 50 years.

The US-led cabal of US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey combined to use USA proxies like ISIS and Kurdish militias to destabilize Syria, creating a failed state. Turkey likely wanted to create a de facto Kurdish state outside its territory, to diffuse the statehood aspirations of the Kurds INSIDE its territory. Israel wants land to the north. "Lebensraum," they call it. The USA wants instability, to sell arms and plunder nations; and it wants whatever its lord and master wants: lebensraum. As to the the Sauds, I never understand their **** games. I find the mind of the Islamist inscrutable. My best guess is that their participation is a quid pro quo in exchange for ongoing help with their Yemen problems. 

Russia PROTECTED Syria from becoming a failed state - likely at least in part to protect the millions of Orthodox Christians the USA tried to set up for rape, enslavement, and murder at the hands of "moderate rebels" (as if moderation and rebellion are fellow travelers - smh). 

At this stage of the game, any pretense that the U.S. is an honest broker in the M.E. is predicated on devout and unremitting homosexuality. Bashar al Assad is THE WALL between Islamic rapine and about two and a half million Christians. The USA tried with all its might and main to remove that wall. And that is a crime against humanity. 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:57 am

Syria has been defending its border against israeli aggression for the past 50 years.

The US-led cabal of US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey combined to use USA proxies like ISIS and Kurdish militias to destabilize Syria, creating a failed state. Turkey likely wanted to create a de facto Kurdish state outside its territory, to diffuse the statehood aspirations of the Kurds INSIDE its territory. Israel wants land to the north. "Lebensraum," they call it. The USA wants instability, to sell arms and plunder nations; and it wants whatever its lord and master wants: lebensraum. As to the the Sauds, I never understand their **** games. I find the mind of the Islamist inscrutable. My best guess is that their participation is a quid pro quo in exchange for ongoing help with their Yemen problems. 

Russia PROTECTED Syria from becoming a failed state - likely at least in part to protect the millions of Orthodox Christians the USA tried to set up for rape, enslavement, and murder at the hands of "moderate rebels" (as if moderation and rebellion are fellow travelers - smh). 

At this stage of the game, any pretense that the U.S. is an honest broker in the M.E. is predicated on devout and unremitting homosexuality. Bashar al Assad is THE WALL between Islamic rapine and about two and a half million Christians. The USA tried with all its might and main to remove that wall. And that is a crime against humanity.

Defending its border?!??!?
When did Israel EVER make an attempt to invade and take land from Syria, you fool?
The only attacks Israel has made against Syria is to stop their weapons manufacturing facilities from providing missiles and other weapons to Hezbollah.


 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 10:05 am

Defending its border?!??!?
When did Israel EVER make an attempt to invade and take land from Syria, you fool?
The only attacks Israel has made against Syria is to stop their weapons manufacturing facilities from providing missiles and other weapons to Hezbollah.

Israel staged over a hundred raids into Syria in 2023 alone. Any resistance to those raids was defending its border, whether a land grab or mere mayhem were the intention of the aggressors. 

You need to get news from something other than CNN and Fox.

Israel's own media - both Haaretz and the Times of Israel - have reported that the IDF was triaging and rearming ISIS terrorists for their assaults on Syria.

I am reminded of how many times I played the innocent as a child, when the results of my actions caught up with me. I would always tell my mom, "Fer NUTHIN," when she asked why I was so persecuted. 

Israel has backed every effort to destroy the Syrian State, and to effect "regime change." 

Are you going to pretend regime change was not official U.S. policy in Syria? Are you going to pretend that Israel's policy was different than DC's, even though Israel dictates DC's policy?

 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:29 am

How do you figure that?
Didn't Russia ALREADY side with Syria and send them weapons which they used against Israel?
And doesn't the US counter those shipments by sending weapons to Israel?

I seriously doubt that Russia is very interested in sending anyone additional weapons today, as they're far more concerned with fighting Ukraine these days.
But if they did, the US will undoubtedly do the same for Israel if necessary.

russia is watching......

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https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15723.doc.htm



Meanwhile, China’s delegate detailed his delegation’s valid concerns about whether both parties will accept the ceasefire proposal and whether the three-phase arrangements can be carried out smoothly.  Despite the text being “ambiguous in many aspects”, China recognizes the urgent need to stop more killings and alleviate the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza — the most pressing aspiration of Gaza civilians — and, therefore, voted in favour. Along similar lines, the speaker for the Russian Federation said that “there was no negotiation process” as “the sponsors of the draft did not keep the Council in the loop of the agreement’s details”.  He further observed that — even though Hamas is called upon to accept this so-called deal — there is no clarity regarding official agreement from Israel — a country repeatedly stating that “it will continue in its war until Hamas is defeated”.  Despite its objections, he said Moscow decided not to veto the resolution “as the Arab world supports it”.
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 10:42 am

russia is watching......

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https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15723.doc.htm

Meanwhile, China’s delegate detailed his delegation’s valid concerns about whether both parties will accept the ceasefire proposal and whether the three-phase arrangements can be carried out smoothly.  Despite the text being “ambiguous in many aspects”, China recognizes the urgent need to stop more killings and alleviate the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza — the most pressing aspiration of Gaza civilians — and, therefore, voted in favour. Along similar lines, the speaker for the Russian Federation said that “there was no negotiation process” as “the sponsors of the draft did not keep the Council in the loop of the agreement’s details”.  He further observed that — even though Hamas is called upon to accept this so-called deal — there is no clarity regarding official agreement from Israel — a country repeatedly stating that “it will continue in its war until Hamas is defeated”.  Despite its objections, he said Moscow decided not to veto the resolution “as the Arab world supports it”.

Yeah, they're watching tens of thousands of their troops get slaughtered in a war with Ukraine that they thought would take a couple of weeks to win!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:24 am

So what's your point?
That you've suddenly realized what I've been telling you is 100% accurate?
Israel has SHOWN REPEATEDLY their desire to live in peace with the neighbors, and hold tightly to any peace agreement they sign, unlike EVERY peace deal they've made with Hamas, which only uses a cease fire to rebuilt and relocate their missile attacks for the next wave of war they will use against Israel.

Has Israel launched even a single attack against ANY of those countries that have signed peace agreements with them?

all israel has shown is that it will kill anyone it wants for any reason. and don't even say that it does not attck countries. it pisses off all the countries around them with the inhumane treatment of gaza and palestine for decades.

and if it was not because of fake christian americans like you...... (whom according to Jesus will wind up in hell)..... israel could not murder people. it was america who protected israel from egypt and others.