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Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 11:22 am

Yeah, they're watching tens of thousands of their troops get slaughtered in a war with Ukraine that they thought would take a couple of weeks to win!

you have  not proved  they are not watching israel.

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:29 am

How do you figure that?
Didn't Russia ALREADY side with Syria and send them weapons which they used against Israel?
And doesn't the US counter those shipments by sending weapons to Israel?

I seriously doubt that Russia is very interested in sending anyone additional weapons today, as they're far more concerned with fighting Ukraine these days.
But if they did, the US will undoubtedly do the same for Israel if necessary.

it looks like ukraine is losing. all deaths russian and ukraine sponsored by the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... nskiy-says


edit-- also all  gaza deaths

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 10:05 am

Defending its border?!??!?
When did Israel EVER make an attempt to invade and take land from Syria, you fool?
The only attacks Israel has made against Syria is to stop their weapons manufacturing facilities from providing missiles and other weapons to Hezbollah.

if you think convrting to judaism will save your ***. you are wrong, God judges ALL  by  what they do, no  matter what religion they are.

jerra b » 15 Sep 2024, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 12:09 pm

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-evicti ... iolenceHow Evictions in Jerusalem Led to Israeli-Palestinian Violence
 

1,064 separate binding agreements to humanity over last 6,000 years and you still only debate two sides to an issue when 8.2 billion ancestors evolving in series parallel time today?

Your mind is only open to power of suggesting life isn't self evident time adapting forward now.

What’s the latest on the ceasefire? Any more hostages rescued?

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 11:22 am

Yeah, they're watching tens of thousands of their troops get slaughtered in a war with Ukraine that they thought would take a couple of weeks to win!

tell me how does Christ feel when he sees YOU sitting in church over joyed at the children killed in gaza that week and singing praises to israel.
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 1:30 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 1:30 pm

tell me how does Christ feel when he sees YOU sitting in church over joyed at the children killed in gaza that week and singing praises to israel.

where’s the ceasefire?

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 1:30 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 1:30 pm

tell me how does Christ feel when he sees YOU sitting in church over joyed at the children killed in gaza that week and singing praises to israel.

Understanding that collateral damage cannot be avoided when a country is forced to retaliate against an aggressor who has spent DECADES trying to eradicate your entire race from the face of the earth does NOT mean that I'm "overjoyed" when children are killed.  But it is VERY different thing when Hamas terrorists cheer as they burn Israeli babies alive forcing their parents to witness it before they too are mercilessly raped and butchered!

If you're expecting Israel and its supporters to refuse to retaliate because they feel remorse over the death of innocents, then all you have to do is to convince Hamas not to store their weapons and their missile launchers in schools and hospitals as is illegal under the Geneva Conventions.

And I'm likewise quite certain that Christ despises ignorant anti-Semites like yourself far more than he does me for supporting a war against brutal terrorists like Hamas!  If YOU want to risk explaining such hatred of His chosen people when you go before him, that's YOUR choice.  Better bring along some Coppertone, as your lengthy stay in Hell will be providing you with that nice warm all-over tan you'll get until you begin to resemble BV!  
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:15 pm

Understanding that collateral damage cannot be avoided when a country is forced to retaliate against an aggressor who has spent DECADES trying to eradicate your entire race from the face of the earth does NOT mean that I'm "overjoyed" when children are killed.  But it is VERY different thing when Hamas terrorists cheer as they burn Israeli babies alive forcing their parents to witness it before they too are mercilessly raped and butchered!

If you're expecting Israel and its supporters to refuse to retaliate because they feel remorse over the death of innocents, then all you have to do is to convince Hamas not to store their weapons and their missile launchers in schools and hospitals as is illegal under the Geneva Conventions.

And I'm likewise quite certain that Christ despises ignorant anti-Semites like yourself far more than he does me for supporting a war against brutal terrorists like Hamas!  If YOU want to risk explaining such hatred of His chosen people when you go before him, that's YOUR choice.  Better bring along some Coppertone, as your lengthy stay in Hell will be providing you with that nice warm all-over tan you'll get until you begin to resemble BV!

it is not about hating jewish people. that is the excuse when ever someone disagrees with them. it is like it gives them a ticket to murder.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 12:18 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 12:18 pm

if you think convrting to judaism will save your ***. you are wrong, God judges ALL  by  what they do, no  matter what religion they are.

I have NO plans to convert to anything.  I'm perfectly content to be a God-fearing Christian and Roman Catholic.
And do you REALLY think God won't be judging you for defending the torture, brutality and hatred that Hamas has for the Jewish people?  No way you'll be able to sugarcoat THAT, Jew-hater!


 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:15 pm

Understanding that collateral damage cannot be avoided when a country is forced to retaliate against an aggressor who has spent DECADES trying to eradicate your entire race from the face of the earth does NOT mean that I'm "overjoyed" when children are killed.  But it is VERY different thing when Hamas terrorists cheer as they burn Israeli babies alive forcing their parents to witness it before they too are mercilessly raped and butchered!

If you're expecting Israel and its supporters to refuse to retaliate because they feel remorse over the death of innocents, then all you have to do is to convince Hamas not to store their weapons and their missile launchers in schools and hospitals as is illegal under the Geneva Conventions.

And I'm likewise quite certain that Christ despises ignorant anti-Semites like yourself far more than he does me for supporting a war against brutal terrorists like Hamas!  If YOU want to risk explaining such hatred of His chosen people when you go before him, that's YOUR choice.  Better bring along some Coppertone, as your lengthy stay in Hell will be providing you with that nice warm all-over tan you'll get until you begin to resemble BV!

number one rule is to accuse any one who disagrees with zionist of being anti semetic.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:19 pm

it is not about hating jewish people. that is the excuse when ever someone disagrees with them. it is like it gives them a ticket to murder.

Oh, so you think you can support Hama and all the other terrorist groups that have attempted to destroy Israel over the last 75 years?  How can you possibly justify what Hamas did on Oct. 7th and yet think you're going to be in God's graces?
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:21 pm

number one rule is to accuse any one who disagrees with zionist of being anti semetic.

I don't need any set of rules to codify your obvious hatred of Jews and your support for terrorists who torture, rape, and behead innocent civilians and their infant children as you do!

Funny, how you can't even find it in your heart to condemn THAT!
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 12:11 pm

it looks like ukraine is losing. all deaths russian and ukraine sponsored by the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... nskiy-says

edit-- also all  gaza deaths

If you cared enough to view my past posts, you'd realize I foretold that Ukraine would lose a war with Russia from the day they invaded!  And the hundreds of billions that we wasted supporting them was beyond stupid!  If your pansy Biden had the negotiating skills that Trump had, Putin would NEVER have invaded, and giving up a small piece of their land to Russia would have saved tens of thousands of lives, saved tens of thousands of refugees from losing their homes, and saved the trillion dollars or so that it's going to take to rebuilt a decimated Ukraine!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:23 pm

Oh, so you think you can support Hama and all the other terrorist groups that have attempted to destroy Israel over the last 75 years?  How can you possibly justify what Hamas did on Oct. 7th and yet think you're going to be in God's graces?

what has israel done in the past 75 years to promote peace?

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The United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 was a non-binding recommendation for resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict after the June 1967 war. The resolution was adopted on November 22, 1967 and was a significant moment in the history of the conflict because it endorsed the idea of "land for peace". 
The resolution's main principles included: 

• Withdrawal: Israel would withdraw from the territories it occupied in the 1967 war 
• Peace: The resolution called for peace within secure and recognized boundaries 
• Freedom of navigation: The resolution called for freedom of navigation in international waterways 
• Refugees: The resolution called for a just settlement of the refugee problem 
• Security: The resolution called for security measures, including demilitarized zones 

----------------------------all of which is rejected and ignored by israel.------------

 
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 11:53 am

you have  not proved  they are not watching israel.

I can't prove they're not watching Antarctica either you dolt, but I'm quite certain they're not about to enter into ANY other war on a second front when they KNOW that the US will defend Israel with far greater support than we've used in Ukraine!

So let them watch!    
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:35 pm

what has israel done in the past 75 years to promote peace?

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The United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 was a non-binding recommendation for resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict after the June 1967 war. The resolution was adopted on November 22, 1967 and was a significant moment in the history of the conflict because it endorsed the idea of "land for peace". 
The resolution's main principles included: 

• Withdrawal: Israel would withdraw from the territories it occupied in the 1967 war 
• Peace: The resolution called for peace within secure and recognized boundaries 
• Freedom of navigation: The resolution called for freedom of navigation in international waterways 
• Refugees: The resolution called for a just settlement of the refugee problem 
• Security: The resolution called for security measures, including demilitarized zones 

----------------------------all of which is rejected and ignored by israel.------------

Hey stupid!
Show me ONE TIME that Israel WAS NOT PROVOKED by an attack from any Arab nation where they were FORCED to defend themselves!

No matter how ignorant you profess to be, you can't possibly think that one country MUST abide by any peace agreement AFTER THE OTHER SIDE HAS BROKEN IT AND ATTACKED THEM!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 2:33 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:33 pm

If you cared enough to view my past posts, you'd realize I foretold that Ukraine would lose a war with Russia from the day they invaded!  And the hundreds of billions that we wasted supporting them was beyond stupid!  If your pansy Biden had the negotiating skills that Trump had, Putin would NEVER have invaded, and giving up a small piece of their land to Russia would have saved tens of thousands of lives, saved tens of thousands of refugees from losing their homes, and saved the trillion dollars or so that it's going to take to rebuilt a decimated Ukraine!

and if you read my posts you would see that I posted ukraine threatened to  take back crimea before the invasion and I said that biden should have said that ukraine  can't join nato. i was against sending weapons to ukraine before  america even sent them.

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:40 pm

Hey stupid!
Show me ONE TIME that Israel WAS NOT PROVOKED by an attack from any Arab nation where they were FORCED to defend themselves!

No matter how ignorant you profess to be, you can't possibly think that one country MUST abide by any peace agreement AFTER THE OTHER SIDE HAS BROKEN IT AND ATTACKED THEM!

no. you can't show one time when israel tried to be fair in palastine. they keep evicting people and everyone knows that it is because of fake american christians like you who always takes israel's side no matter what they do and send wepons to israel. and what happened on 10/7 is a direct result of fake american christians LIKE YOU cheering israel on as it evicts who ever they want and sends weapons to israel to make it possible that israel treats anyone they want to  as horribly as they want to.  10/7 is the direct result of fake christians not acting like Christ wanted them to.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:57 pm

no. you can't show one time when israel tried to be fair in palastine. they keep evicting people and everyone knows that it is because of fake american christians like you who always takes israel's side no matter what they do and send wepons to israel. and what happened on 10/7 is a direct result of fake american christians LIKE YOU cheering israel on as it evicts who ever they want and sends weapons to israel to make it possible that israel treats anyone they want to  as horribly as they want to.  10/7 is the direct result of fake christians not acting like Christ wanted them to.

Tell me, stupid.
Did Israel EVER make the claim that they WOULD NOT defend themselves if another country attacked them?
Is there ANY country in the world that wouldn't do exactly the same thing?
There is NO AGREEMENT ISRAEL EVER SIGNED that would take away their right to do what they wish WITH THEIR OWN TERRITORY, no more than if some Mexicans tried to force the US to accept THEIR rules when living in OUR country!

But it's nice to know that you found a way to excuse the brutal Hamas torture and murder of 1200 Israeli civilians and the taking of a couple hundred more hostages, most of whom have already been tortured and brutally murdered!

So yeah, I hope Israel kills EVERY LAST HAMAS MEMBER, and then establishes a new government in Gaza that is willing to peacefully co-exist with them as you weep and wring your hands over some dead terrorists!