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Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 2:23 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:23 pm

Oh, so you think you can support Hama and all the other terrorist groups that have attempted to destroy Israel over the last 75 years?  How can you possibly justify what Hamas did on Oct. 7th and yet think you're going to be in God's graces?

the evictions which you love are made possible by american weapons.

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Did the US help Israel in the 1973 war?
On October 6, 1973, Egypt and Syria launched a coordinated surprise attack on Israeli forces in the Sinai and the Golan Heights. Israel ultimately repelled the attack and regained lost ground, but only after the United States made the decision to supply the Israeli military.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 2:47 pm

and if you read my posts you would see that I posted ukraine threatened to  take back crimea before the invasion and I said that biden should have said that ukraine  can't join nato. i was against sending weapons to ukraine before  america even sent them.

Sounds to me like you're admitting that the idiot you helped to elect was the REAL cause of the Russian invasion, and I agree with you!  The fact is that Putin saw what an incompetent boob Biden was by his idiotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, and that told him that now would be the time to attack Ukraine BEFORE Trump was re-elected and seated as President next year!

You're just too dumb to realize it!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm

Sounds to me like you're admitting that the idiot you helped to elect was the REAL cause of the Russian invasion, and I agree with you!  The fact is that Putin saw what an incompetent boob Biden was by his idiotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, and that told him that now would be the time to attack Ukraine BEFORE Trump was re-elected and seated as President next year!

You're just too dumb to realize it!

you are just too dumb to realize I never supported biden even before the election, not in ukraine or israel but you support him in israel.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:12 pm

the evictions which you love are made possible by american weapons.

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Did the US help Israel in the 1973 war?
On October 6, 1973, Egypt and Syria launched a coordinated surprise attack on Israeli forces in the Sinai and the Golan Heights. Israel ultimately repelled the attack and regained lost ground, but only after the United States made the decision to supply the Israeli military.

OK, and I've got no problem with that!
Hope they use them in good health!   

Apparently, you still don't understand the fact that I FULLY SUPPORT ANY DECISION Israel chooses to do WITH THEIR OWN LAND!  Only dopes like YOU think they should be forced to tolerate having people who support terrorism against them living nearby!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:10 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:10 pm

Tell me, stupid.
Did Israel EVER make the claim that they WOULD NOT defend themselves if another country attacked them?
Is there ANY country in the world that wouldn't do exactly the same thing?
There is NO AGREEMENT ISRAEL EVER SIGNED that would take away their right to do what they wish WITH THEIR OWN TERRITORY, no more than if some Mexicans tried to force the US to accept THEIR rules when living in OUR country!

But it's nice to know that you found a way to excuse the brutal Hamas torture and murder of 1200 Israeli civilians and the taking of a couple hundred more hostages, most of whom have already been tortured and brutally murdered!

So yeah, I hope Israel kills EVERY LAST HAMAS MEMBER, and then establishes a new government in Gaza that is willing to peacefully co-exist with them as you weep and wring your hands over some dead terrorists!

all your legal smeegal about how legal the evictions are because israelvwon in 67  but israel would have lost in 73 but fake christians stepped in to  make sure that israel kept  treating the palestinians like ****--------------------------/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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However, Israel and its Arab neighbors were unable to reach a compromise over the occupied territories. With negotiations stalled, Egyptian and Syrian forces attacked Israeli forces on October 6, 1973 in the Sinai and the Golan Heights in an effort to regain territory they had lost during the 1967 war.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm

you are just too dumb to realize I never supported biden even before the election, not in ukraine or israel but you support him in israel.

Are you saying you didn't vote for them in 2020?
I don't believe you voted for Trump for an instant!
If you didn't vote for Biden, you either stayed home or chose to vote for some 3rd party candidate who had ZERO chance to win!
So it's time to come clean, and admit who you voted for!

As for me, I DO NOT support Biden's policies in Israel!
Whatever gave you THAT stupid idea?

Your two idiots have undermined Israel's war against Hamas by demanding they stop attacking Hamas strongholds in Gaza simply because some innocent civilians might be killed, AND THAT'S TOTAL ****!  Do you think we in the US should have been forced to listen to what a third party wanted us to do when we were at war in WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Kuwait, or Iraq?  We'd properly tell them to go **** themselves and to mind their own goddamn business!  And that's what Israel SHOULD do, except for the fact that they cannot lose us as an ally!
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:17 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:17 pm

OK, and I've got no problem with that!
Hope they use them in good health!   

Apparently, you still don't understand the fact that I FULLY SUPPORT ANY DECISION Israel chooses to do WITH THEIR OWN LAND!  Only dopes like YOU think they should be forced to tolerate having people who support terrorism against them living nearby!

their own land? is the bible a land deed?
 

AyeCantSeeYou » 01 Sep 2024, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2024, 11:19 am

It was the opportunity of economic success that was behind Trumps Abraham Accords generating an unprecedented peace between Arabs and Israel before Biden funded Iran, dismantled the whole thing and sent the region and our country into chaos and war. The hope for success. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hersh-gold ... mily-says/

The Israeli military announced Saturday that it had recovered the bodies of six hostages, including that of an Israeli-American, who it says were killed by Hamas militants in Gaza. The news prompted protests within Israel and renewed calls for a ceasefire in the ongoing conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04F4xlWSFh0
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:25 pm

Are you saying you didn't vote for them in 2020?
I don't believe you voted for Trump for an instant!
If you didn't vote for Biden, you either stayed home or chose to vote for some 3rd party candidate who had ZERO chance to win!
So it's time to come clean, and admit who you voted for!

As for me, I DO NOT support Biden's policies in Israel!
Whatever gave you THAT stupid idea?

Your two idiots have undermined Israel's war against Hamas by demanding they stop attacking Hamas strongholds in Gaza simply because some innocent civilians might be killed, AND THAT'S TOTAL ****!  Do you think we in the US should have been forced to listen to what a third party wanted us to do when we were at war in WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Kuwait, or Iraq?  We'd properly tell them to go **** themselves and to mind their own goddamn business!  And that's what Israel SHOULD do, except for the fact that they cannot lose us as an ally!

israel won't sign a peace deal and that would include no attacks from hamas.
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 3:21 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:21 pm

all your legal smeegal about how legal the evictions are because israelvwon in 67  but israel would have lost in 73 but fake christians stepped in to  make sure that israel kept  treating the palestinians like ****--------------------------/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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However, Israel and its Arab neighbors were unable to reach a compromise over the occupied territories. With negotiations stalled, Egyptian and Syrian forces attacked Israeli forces on October 6, 1973 in the Sinai and the Golan Heights in an effort to regain territory they had lost during the 1967 war.

Yeah, and how did THAT work out for them?
Were they able to achieve their objective through war?
Or did they get their royal asses kicked all over the Middle East?

And why SHOULDN'T Israel impose their will ON THE LOSING COUNTRIES THAT ATTACKED THEM?
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOSE A WAR!
And you've got no right to expect anything different when Israel wins a war they didn't start!
 

sootedupCyndi » 01 Sep 2024, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Sep 2024, 12:05 pm

CBS? hahahaha

 
 
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:25 pm

Are you saying you didn't vote for them in 2020?
I don't believe you voted for Trump for an instant!
If you didn't vote for Biden, you either stayed home or chose to vote for some 3rd party candidate who had ZERO chance to win!
So it's time to come clean, and admit who you voted for!

As for me, I DO NOT support Biden's policies in Israel!
Whatever gave you THAT stupid idea?

Your two idiots have undermined Israel's war against Hamas by demanding they stop attacking Hamas strongholds in Gaza simply because some innocent civilians might be killed, AND THAT'S TOTAL ****!  Do you think we in the US should have been forced to listen to what a third party wanted us to do when we were at war in WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Kuwait, or Iraq?  We'd properly tell them to go **** themselves and to mind their own goddamn business!  And that's what Israel SHOULD do, except for the fact that they cannot lose us as an ally!

what would america do if another country gave tons of weapons against it?
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:28 pm

Yeah, and how did THAT work out for them?
Were they able to achieve their objective through war?
Or did they get their royal asses kicked all over the Middle East?

And why SHOULDN'T Israel impose their will ON THE LOSING COUNTRIES THAT ATTACKED THEM?
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOSE A WAR!
And you've got no right to expect anything different when Israel wins a war they didn't start!

ISRAEL WON BECAUSE FAKE CHRISTIAN AMERICA GAVE WEAPONS TO ISRAEL.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:28 pm

israel won't sign a peace deal and that would include no attacks from hamas.

That's simply because they know that ANY agreement with Hamas is a waste of time that Hamas won't honor anyway!  And Hamas would simply use that peace time to continue arming themselves with the billions they get from us, Iran, and others until they feel they're confident enough to inflict another round of attacks against Israel just like they did on Oct. 7th!

Why don't you ask yourself if Hamas TRULY wanted peace, WHY DON'T THEY REMOVE FROM THEIR CHARTER THE SINGULAR OBJECTIVE TO PUSH EVERY JEW INTO THE SEA?
That should be the first order of business IF they REALLY wanted a lasting peace!
They don't, and it's about time you Jew-hating pacifists realize that!

Maybe you ought to read the Hamas Charter for yourself, which I seriously doubt you've ever done?:

Hamas has never changed its aspirations to wrest control of all of Israel by killing its Jews— a goal you will see clearly when you read the Hamas charter, as I did on Tuesday. The first version of the charter, adopted in 1988, begins with a preamble. Only instead of “We-the-People,” it reads: “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”The 36 articles that follow are buttressed by quotes from the Quran and lessons of the Prophet Muhammed … as interpreted by the militant Islamists of Hamas. After establishing the primacy of Islam, the charter pivots to removing Jews from historic Palestine. “Nothing in nationalism is more significant or deeper than in the case when an enemy should tread Moslem land,” states Article 12. The charter’s description of Jews echoes millennia of antisemitic tropes.

 The charter directs the killing of Jews, drawing on a hadith (prophetic saying): “The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”In 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter, which softens its Islamist rhetoric somewhat. While maintaining the right to Palestine “from the river to the sea,” this new version accepts the idea of a Palestinian state in territories occupied by Israel since the 1967 War — the so-called two-state solution.

 
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm

Sounds to me like you're admitting that the idiot you helped to elect was the REAL cause of the Russian invasion, and I agree with you! 

Trump supplied Ukraine with more offensive weapons than Obama did. On my nickel, of course, socialist that he and his cult are.

He owns a piece of it.

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm

The fact is that Putin saw what an incompetent boob Biden was by his idiotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, and that told him that now would be the time to attack Ukraine BEFORE Trump was re-elected and seated as President next year!

That is the credulous schoolgirl view - thanks for sharing it.

The truth is, Putin saw Ukraine's coup government acting as a proxy for NATO as an existential threat. That is the grownup reason.

Your implicit notion that other nations' leaders are just WAITING for a weak US president so they can invade their neighbors is sophisticated in the way that a rapacious desire for more grape jelly is sophisticated. You are doxing yourself: Now the whole **** board knows that you live in Rubesville. It's only a matter of time before someone retraces your steps, once they find the turnip truck. Then you're ****.

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:17 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:17 pm

OK, and I've got no problem with that!
Hope they use them in good health!   

Right. Your problem isn't with SOCIALISM - so long as the guy in charge of the socialism does socialism the way YOU like it done. 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:25 pm

As for me, I DO NOT support Biden's policies in Israel!
Whatever gave you THAT stupid idea?


 

Oh, you do. You're just too stupid to know it.

Biden's public dithering has not prevented the genocide you root for, little hitler. 
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:28 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:28 pm

And why SHOULDN'T Israel impose their will ON THE LOSING COUNTRIES THAT ATTACKED THEM?
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOSE A WAR!
 

Gaza isn't a country, queer.

It's a prison, little hitler. 

You can't have a "war" with your own citizens, you fruit - even in an apartheid state.
 
 

Zeets2 » 16 Sep 2024, 3:41 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:41 pm

That's simply because they know that ANY agreement with Hamas is a waste of time that Hamas won't honor anyway!  And Hamas would simply use that peace time to continue arming themselves with the billions they get from us, Iran, and others until they feel they're confident enough to inflict another round of attacks against Israel just like they did on Oct. 7th!

Why don't you ask yourself if Hamas TRULY wanted peace, WHY DON'T THEY REMOVE FROM THEIR CHARTER THE SINGULAR OBJECTIVE TO PUSH EVERY JEW INTO THE SEA?
That should be the first order of business IF they REALLY wanted a lasting peace!
They don't, and it's about time you Jew-hating pacifists realize that!

Maybe you ought to read the Hamas Charter for yourself, which I seriously doubt you've ever done?:

israel won't sign because a no evictions  clause would be included. 

Arlene » 16 Sep 2024, 3:29 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:29 pm

if your  A REAL woman  Arene?
i've seen very few Women have the guts to stay here very long?  lol? sok?