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jerrab » 17 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm

you can't be serious. israel has never made an attempt to live peacefully.

Of course I'm serious!
Show me where Israel EVER launched an unprovoked attack against one of their neighboring countries.
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:20 pm

where are the weapon manufacturings?

https://youtu.be/hTcx54uaoqU?si=Oo4YAf_Yxk1mHswr

Right here:

Reports: Israeli troops raided IRGC weapons facility in Syria, took equipment, documentsDuring major attack by jets earlier this week, IDF commandos said to have rappelled from helicopters to capture Iranians and remove materials before destroying siteBy ToI Staff 12 September 2024
A fire sparked by an alleged Israeli strike in the Masyaf area of central Syria, late September 8, 2024. (SANA)Israeli special forces carried out a raid on an Iranian weapons facility in the Masyaf area in Syria earlier this week, according to a number of unconfirmed reports on Wednesday widely reported by Hebrew media.A series of previously reported alleged Israeli strikes hit military sites in central Syria late Sunday, killing at least 14 people, wounding 43, and sparking fires. Local Syrian media reported at the time that the strikes hit a scientific research center in Masyaf, which has long been associated with the manufacture of chemical weapons and precision missiles by the Syrian regime and Iranian forces.

 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:25 pm

tell me again how peaceful israel is.

Your picture says it all quite succinctly!
You've got armed Israeli military calmly restraining screaming, outraged Palestinians when they could have easily killed them all instead, as any Hamas terrorists would have certainly done.
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 4:12 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:12 pm

regarding 10/7........

israel knew that if it pissed off hamas, hamas would strike. israel wanted hamas to strike because that means more money from the US, just like it gets now. and don't give me that **** that the palestians want israel dead, israel is taking the opportunity to kill everyone in gaza.

Tell me, knucklehead.
When has Hamas NOT been pissed off at Israel since they were elected in 2006?
Was there ANY year that Hamas has NOT launched rockets and missiles into Israel?

Israel has given Hamas more than enough chances to live in peace, and they have clearly stated that their intention to drive Israel into the sea has never changed.  The Hamas massacre on Oct. 7th proved that beyond the shadow of a doubt, and proved that they cannot be permitted to do so ever again.

And Israel has NOT taken the opportunity to "kill everyone in Gaza".  They've taken MANY steps to cause as little death to civilians as possible and are ONLY working to completely destroy Hamas' members.  But there will ALWAYS be collateral damage in ANY war, and this one is no exception.
Once that job is complete and Israel is no longer under constant attack, there won't be any need to increase aide from the US to them.

Get it through your thick anti-Semitic head that if Palestinians DIDN'T want every Jew dead, THEY WOULD REMOVE THOSE WORDS FROM THEIR CHARTER!!!
 

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:10 pm

I think the correct expression is christ haters in favor of eternal wars.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... 67-borders

Hamas has unveiled a new political programme softening its stance on Israel by accepting the idea of a Palestinian state in territories occupied by Israel in the six-day war of 1967.

And where exactly in that phony statement do they resolve to accept the state of Israel?

Ed Royce, the chair of the House foreign relations committee, said: “Until Hamas recognises Israel’s right to exist, its words are meaningless. I will see to it that Hamas remains designated a terrorist organisation as long as it continues to launch rocket attacks against Israeli civilians, remains an Iranian proxy, and engages in other acts that threaten the US and Israel.”In the biggest concession, the new document states that Hamas “considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of 4 June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus”.By implication, the document accepts that there will be another state entity outside these borders, even if it does not mention Israel.

jerrab » 16 Sep 2024, 4:08 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:08 pm

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Since choosing to run candidates for office in elections, Hamas has downplayed the role of its charter.[16] In direct contradiction of the Charter, in 2008 Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh stated that Hamas would agree to accept a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders, and to offer a long-term truce with Israel.[17] In 2010, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal stated that the Charter is "a piece of history and no longer relevant, but cannot be changed for internal reasons".[18] Meshaal also stated that Hamas was ending its association with the Muslim Brotherhood.[1

So they refuse to change their charter, which establishes the Palestinian goal of "driving every Jew from the river into the sea"
and you think that's a satisfactory reason for Israel to stop defending themselves as rockets and missiles continue to rain down on populated areas of Israel, huh?

How gullible do you have to be not to realize that Hamas would murder every Jew in Israel if they had the military strength to do so?
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:47 pm

Gaza isn't a country, queer.

It's a prison, little hitler. 

You can't have a "war" with your own citizens, you fruit - even in an apartheid state.

I'm not talking about Gaza, asshole!

Are not Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon (with additional support from several others) COUNTRIES that have attacked Israel in the past, you jerkoff?

Kindly educate your stupid self before inserting worthless and idiotic opinions and responses, as is your wont. 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:45 pm

Oh, you do. You're just too stupid to know it.

Biden's public dithering has not prevented the genocide you root for, little hitler.

What YOU'RE too stupid to understand is the fact that what I DON'T support is Biden's idiotic attempt to force Israel to call a truce when they're finally rooting out the leaders of Hamas and destroying their weapons and tunnels!  And the only reason Kamaltoe is defending the Palestinians is because she's desperately in need of the tens of thousands of Arab voters in Michigan and Wisconsin to keep from her getting creamed in the election by losing those states to Trump!

And your complete ignorance of the war is proven by the singular fact that Israel does everything possible to limit the harm to innocent Palestinian civilians by warning them to leave an area before it is attacked and by dropping leaflets directing them where to go to avoid the targeted territories.

Is THAT something a country intent on committing genocide would do, moron?  Isn't that EXACTLY what the US did when bombing Germany and Japan in WWII?  I suppose an ignorant buffoon like you considered the US guilty of genocide then also, didn't you, cupcake?
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:43 pm

Right. Your problem isn't with SOCIALISM - so long as the guy in charge of the socialism does socialism the way YOU like it done.

There's no question that the US has some socialist policies that I can accept, like Social Security and a limited amount of welfare.  When those socialist policies are foolishly expanded by dumb libs like you, then yes, I have a major problem with that.
Having a handful of socialist policies does NOT make it a Socialist country, you ignorant buffoon!
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 8:31 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 8:31 am

I'm not talking about Gaza, asshole!

Are not Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon (with additional support from several others) COUNTRIES that have attacked Israel in the past, you jerkoff?

Kindly educate your stupid self before inserting worthless and idiotic opinions and responses, as is your wont. 
 

 

They are bombing Gaza, you stupid queer.

No WONDER you want to prattle about the 1960s - you got nothin.
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 8:48 am

What YOU'RE too stupid to understand is the fact that what I DON'T support is Biden's idiotic attempt to force Israel to call a truce 

That is window dressing, retard. He keeps supplying the bombs. And that is what you want, biden-baby.

Like I said, you are in complete agreement with biden - just too stupid to know when he's lying. 
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 8:58 am

There's no question that the US has some socialist policies that I can accept, like Social Security and a limited amount of welfare.

When those socialist policies are foolishly expanded by dumb libs like you, giving welfare to FOREIGN NATIONS, then yes, I have a major problem with that.

Having a handful of socialist policies does NOT make it a Socialist country. But throwing money around like a drunken sailor to foreign countries does, you ignorant buffoon!

It's doubtful anyone here knows what is happening in the me.

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 8:31 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 8:31 am

I'm not talking about Gaza, asshole!

Are not Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon (with additional support from several others) COUNTRIES that have attacked Israel in the past, you jerkoff?

Kindly educate your stupid self before inserting worthless and idiotic opinions and responses, as is your wont.

what if russia got together with canada and decided that america belonged to canada and kicked out all americans from their homes. and said it was all legal.

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 8:07 am

Tell me, knucklehead.
When has Hamas NOT been pissed off at Israel since they were elected in 2006?
Was there ANY year that Hamas has NOT launched rockets and missiles into Israel?

Israel has given Hamas more than enough chances to live in peace, and they have clearly stated that their intention to drive Israel into the sea has never changed.  The Hamas massacre on Oct. 7th proved that beyond the shadow of a doubt, and proved that they cannot be permitted to do so ever again.

And Israel has NOT taken the opportunity to "kill everyone in Gaza".  They've taken MANY steps to cause as little death to civilians as possible and are ONLY working to completely destroy Hamas' members.  But there will ALWAYS be collateral damage in ANY war, and this one is no exception.
Once that job is complete and Israel is no longer under constant attack, there won't be any need to increase aide from the US to them.

Get it through your thick anti-Semitic head that if Palestinians DIDN'T want every Jew dead, THEY WOULD REMOVE THOSE WORDS FROM THEIR CHARTER!!!

what would happen if russia got together with canada and proclaimed all of north america belonged to canada and kicked every american out of their homes?

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 7:57 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 7:57 am

Your picture says it all quite succinctly!
You've got armed Israeli military calmly restraining screaming, outraged Palestinians when they could have easily killed them all instead, as any Hamas terrorists would have certainly done.

that is a picture of israel bullying unarmed civilians.

asshole

jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 1:06 pm

that is a picture of israel bullying unarmed civilians.

asshole

I don't see ANY "bullying" in that photo.
I see Israeli soldiers both calm and restrained in the face of wild-eyed Palestinians screaming and waving their fists at them while waving Palestinian flags in their face.

I seriously doubt that you or I could remain so restrained and in complete control with that kind of mob screaming obscenities at you!
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 1:39 pm

I don't see ANY "bullying" in that photo.
I see Israeli soldiers both calm and restrained in the face of wild-eyed Palestinians screaming and waving their fists at them while waving Palestinian flags in their face.

I seriously doubt that you or I could remain so restrained and in complete control with that kind of mob screaming obscenities at you!

the soldiers are right in their faces with loaded guns. people are just supposed to take being massacred according to you.

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 1:39 pm

I don't see ANY "bullying" in that photo.
I see Israeli soldiers both calm and restrained in the face of wild-eyed Palestinians screaming and waving their fists at them while waving Palestinian flags in their face.

I seriously doubt that you or I could remain so restrained and in complete control with that kind of mob screaming obscenities at you!

I notice you refuse to answer this question.------

the question @Zeets2 refuses to answer. 

what would happen if russia got together with canada and proclaimed all of north america belonged to canada and kicked every american out of their homes?

The 6 were killed while having

a *** Butt Pump Train orgy.