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jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 1:44 pm

I notice you refuse to answer this question.------

the question @Zeets2 refuses to answer. 

what would happen if russia got together with canada and proclaimed all of north america belonged to canada and kicked every american out of their homes?

I've got no problem answering such a sophomoric hypothetical absurdity!

What the US would do is laugh in their **** face and dare them to TRY to kick Americans out of my country!  Then we would enforce that stand by killing anyone who attempts to take our land, just as Israel is doing.  But as long as your tandem of Russia and Canada used only MILITARY force to achieve such a stupid goal, then THEY ALONE and not innocent civilians would receive the same kind of overwhelming response that Gaza is now receiving.  And if innocent people are killed in the process, they have their own countries to blame for such collateral damage, just as Gazans should be blaming Hamas for their war!
Simple enough, no?

But it's an absurd comparison, because there has NEVER been a world body of authority like the UN that authorized and supported that kind of idiocy.  Neither Russia or Canada HAVE EVER had a history of owning or settling this part of the country.

Happy now?
 

jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 1:41 pm

the soldiers are right in their faces with loaded guns. people are just supposed to take being massacred according to you.

Isn't that exactly what you're expecting Israel to do?  Accept the brutal massacre that Hamas committed on Oct. 7th?
When did Israel EVER send their soldiers into Gaza to rape, behead, and murder innocent civilians including children and infants?

Of course their guns are loaded, fool!  And NONE are "right in the face" of the mob screaming at them!
That's just how you Jew-hating idiots lie and try to spin the facts every time!
Are ANY of the Israeli soldiers pointing their weapons at those screaming Palestinians?
Or are they calmly trying to diffuse the situation?

Not exactly the rampaging savage military you would have everyone believe, are they?
 

Those SIX were already dying

of AIDS anyway. No big loss.

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 1:55 pm

I've got no problem answering such a sophomoric hypothetical absurdity!

What the US would do is laugh in their **** face and dare them to TRY to kick Americans out of my country!  Then we would enforce that stand by killing anyone who attempts to take our land, just as Israel is doing.  But as long as your tandem of Russia and Canada used only MILITARY force to achieve such a stupid goal, then THEY ALONE and not innocent civilians would receive the same kind of overwhelming response that Gaza is now receiving.  And if innocent people are killed in the process, they have their own countries to blame for such collateral damage, just as Gazans should be blaming Hamas for their war!
Simple enough, no?

But it's an absurd comparison, because there has NEVER been a world body of authority like the UN that authorized and supported that kind of idiocy.  Neither Russia or Canada HAVE EVER had a history of owning or settling this part of the country.

Happy now?

amaricans would laugh at rifles and tanks and any weapons? I think not.

as also israel and america should take the blame for all deaths since 1948.

 

jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:08 pm

amaricans would laugh at rifles and tanks and any weapons? I think not.

as also israel and america should take the blame for all deaths since 1948.

Our military certainly would, you fool!

What do YOU think would happen if your fictitious military massacred 1200 innocent civilians the way Hamas did in Israel?
Use your head, stupid!

St. Paul..."""Jews are contrary to all men"""

Cannonpointer » 18 Sep 2024, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 10:42 am

When those socialist policies are foolishly expanded by dumb libs like you, giving welfare to FOREIGN NATIONS, then yes, I have a major problem with that.

Having a handful of socialist policies does NOT make it a Socialist country. But throwing money around like a drunken sailor to foreign countries does, you ignorant buffoon!

Isn't that EXACTLY what I said, you idiot?
Or is English not your first language?

Zeets2 » Today, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑
There's no question that the US has some socialist policies that I can accept, like Social Security and a limited amount of welfare.  When those socialist policies are foolishly expanded by dumb libs like you, then yes, I have a major problem with that.

Pay attention, you brainless scumbag, or keep your **** to yourself when you take your fentanyl! 
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:19 pm

Our military certainly would, you fool!

What do YOU think would happen if your fictitious military massacred 1200 innocent civilians the way Hamas did in Israel?
Use your head, stupid!

it is the result of the travesty that happened in 1948 and the constant mistreatment of the palestianians ever since  with the condoning  attitudes of fake christians like you.

https://youtu.be/MofifnIZxSI?si=Jeqg6K1F_kjqFvca

Cannonpointer » 18 Sep 2024, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 10:40 am

That is window dressing, retard. He keeps supplying the bombs. And that is what you want, biden-baby.

Like I said, you are in complete agreement with biden - just too stupid to know when he's lying.

You should be wise enough to withhold your stupidity and keep it to yourself when you're so poorly educated to the reality, dickhead!
Here's the proof of how Biden HAS withheld weapons from Israel, and the response in a bill from Congress that if passed, would FORCE him to follow their legally binding order and release those weapons!:

House passes bill to prevent Biden from withholding weapons to Israel as GOP ramps up pressure on Democrats
By Clare Foran, Kristin Wilson and Melanie Zanona, CNN
 May 16, 2024
The House voted on Thursday to pass a GOP-led bill to compel the delivery of defensive weapons to Israel as Republicans ramp up pressure on President Joe Biden over his handling of the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.The bill would prevent Biden from withholding, halting, reversing or canceling weapons transfers that have been approved by Congress from the United States to Israel, and requires any that have been withheld to be delivered to Israel within 15 days of the bill’s enactment.It is unlikely to be taken up in the Democratic-led Senate and the White House has said that Biden would veto the bill if Congress passed it.

You don't like what your Congressional representatives have decreed?
Fine!
Go vote them out of office and try to elect more anti-Semites like yourself!
 
 

Cannonpointer » 18 Sep 2024, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 10:38 am

They are bombing Gaza, you stupid queer.

No WONDER you want to prattle about the 1960s - you got nothin.

Yes, AS THEY SHOULD!
So show me where I EVER said that Gaza was a country, as you stupidly claimed?
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm

You should be wise enough to withhold your stupidity and keep it to yourself when you're so poorly educated to the reality, dickhead!
Here's the proof of how Biden HAS withheld weapons from Israel, and the response in a bill from Congress that if passed, would FORCE him to follow their legally binding order and release those weapons!:

You don't like what your Congressional representatives have decreed?
Fine!
Go vote them out of office and try to elect more anti-Semites like yourself!

anti semite-- definition--anyone who objects to killing children.

////////look it up in the dictionary.

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm

You should be wise enough to withhold your stupidity and keep it to yourself when you're so poorly educated to the reality, dickhead!
Here's the proof of how Biden HAS withheld weapons from Israel, and the response in a bill from Congress that if passed, would FORCE him to follow their legally binding order and release those weapons!:

You don't like what your Congressional representatives have decreed?
Fine!
Go vote them out of office and try to elect more anti-Semites like yourself!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... s-general/

 

By John Hudson
September 18, 2024 at 12:21 p.m. EDTGovernment watchdogs with jurisdiction over the State Department and Pentagon are preparing to publish the results of multiple investigations scrutinizing the Biden administration’s provision of U.S. weapons to Israel for its military campaign in Gaza, and “several” related inquiries are either underway or planned, their offices told The Washington Post.
Sign up for Fact Checker, our weekly review of what's true, false or in-between in politics.The forthcoming inspector general reports, which are not yet public, follow complaints from within the U.S. government that the export of billions of dollars in arms to Israel has violated laws prohibiting the transfer of American military assistance to governments that have committed gross human rights violations or blocked the movement of humanitarian assistance.The Biden administration has acknowledged the likelihood that Israel has used U.S. weapons in Gaza in violation of international law, but says continued arms transfers are justified for the defense of the country. Israel maintains that Palestinian casualties are the fault of Hamas, which operates near civilian areas in the densely populated enclave, and denies restricting aid access.The inspector general inquiries represent one of the last internal checks on an administration intent on surging weaponry to Israel despite criticisms of the country’s military tactics and the enormous civilian death toll in Gaza. The investigations come as some of Washington’s closest allies, including Britain, Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, Spain and Belgium, have restricted military equipment transfers to Israel because of legal and political concerns that the weapons could be used to commit war crimes.
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm

You should be wise enough to withhold your stupidity and keep it to yourself when you're so poorly educated to the reality, dickhead!
Here's the proof of how Biden HAS withheld weapons from Israel, and the response in a bill from Congress that if passed, would FORCE him to follow their legally binding order and release those weapons!:

You don't like what your Congressional representatives have decreed?
Fine!
Go vote them out of office and try to elect more anti-Semites like yourself!

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/13/us-app ... billionThe Biden administration went around Congress on Friday for the approval of an emergency weapons sale to Israel that includes "projectiles and related equipment," per the Defense Department.Why it matters: This is the second time in December that the administration has done so, and the move comes as Israel continues its war against Hamas and faces criticism for its military actions in Gaza.Details: The Defense Department said in a statement on Friday Secretary of State Antony Blinken had "determined and provided detailed justification to Congress that an emergency exists that requires the immediate sale" to Israel.

• This waives "the Congressional review requirements" needed for selling defense equipment to other countries, per the department.
• The sale includes ancillary items, such as fuzes, primers and charges, which amount to an estimated total of $147.5 million, according to the Defense Department.
• The ancillary items make the 155mm shells that Israel previously bought functional, according to a State Department spokesperson.

Flashback: Earlier in December, the administration bypassed Congress in an emergency weapons sale to Israel that amounted to an estimated $106.5 million in almost 14,000 rounds of tank ammunition.
 

jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 3:03 pm

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/13/us-app ... billionThe Biden administration went around Congress on Friday for the approval of an emergency weapons sale to Israel that includes "projectiles and related equipment," per the Defense Department.Why it matters: This is the second time in December that the administration has done so, and the move comes as Israel continues its war against Hamas and faces criticism for its military actions in Gaza.Details: The Defense Department said in a statement on Friday Secretary of State Antony Blinken had "determined and provided detailed justification to Congress that an emergency exists that requires the immediate sale" to Israel.

• This waives "the Congressional review requirements" needed for selling defense equipment to other countries, per the department.
• The sale includes ancillary items, such as fuzes, primers and charges, which amount to an estimated total of $147.5 million, according to the Defense Department.
• The ancillary items make the 155mm shells that Israel previously bought functional, according to a State Department spokesperson.

Flashback: Earlier in December, the administration bypassed Congress in an emergency weapons sale to Israel that amounted to an estimated $106.5 million in almost 14,000 rounds of tank ammunition.

That link says NOTHING about Biden going around Congress to get weapons shipped to Israel. 
So stop pulling nonsense out of your *** and provide an accurate link to your lies or stop trying to pass your **** off as fact!
Do you expect me to be displeased that we're now continuing to provide weapons to Israel?
I say, the more the better to help them finish off their job faster!
 

jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:56 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... s-general/

By John Hudson
September 18, 2024 at 12:21 p.m. EDTGovernment watchdogs with jurisdiction over the State Department and Pentagon are preparing to publish the results of multiple investigations scrutinizing the Biden administration’s provision of U.S. weapons to Israel for its military campaign in Gaza, and “several” related inquiries are either underway or planned, their offices told The Washington Post.
Sign up for Fact Checker, our weekly review of what's true, false or in-between in politics.The forthcoming inspector general reports, which are not yet public, follow complaints from within the U.S. government that the export of billions of dollars in arms to Israel has violated laws prohibiting the transfer of American military assistance to governments that have committed gross human rights violations or blocked the movement of humanitarian assistance.The Biden administration has acknowledged the likelihood that Israel has used U.S. weapons in Gaza in violation of international law, but says continued arms transfers are justified for the defense of the country. Israel maintains that Palestinian casualties are the fault of Hamas, which operates near civilian areas in the densely populated enclave, and denies restricting aid access.The inspector general inquiries represent one of the last internal checks on an administration intent on surging weaponry to Israel despite criticisms of the country’s military tactics and the enormous civilian death toll in Gaza. The investigations come as some of Washington’s closest allies, including Britain, Canada, Japan, the Netherlands, Spain and Belgium, have restricted military equipment transfers to Israel because of legal and political concerns that the weapons could be used to commit war crimes.

Do you actually think I'd be upset with Biden being investigated for his actions?
I HATE that stupid demented prick!

As long as Israel continues to get the help they need from us to wipe out Hamas, I'm tickled pink!    
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:30 pm

Isn't that EXACTLY what I said, you idiot?
Or is English not your first language?

Pay attention, you brainless scumbag, or keep your **** to yourself when you take your fentanyl!

No, gay. You blithered. You defend giving MY money to a nation with state supported communes and universal health care and education. \

You are socialist scum, and an America second fifth columnist. 

jerrab » 18 Sep 2024, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:44 pm

anti semite-- definition--anyone who objects to killing children.

////////look it up in the dictionary.

I just did, and here it is.
It says NOTHING about children in any dictionary I can find, you fool!

When will you stop pulling stupid **** out of your *** and trying to pass it off as fact?

anti-semitismnoun

1. Opposition to, or hatred of, Semites, esp. Jews. The word is sometimes also applied to acts motivated by or evincing antisemitism.
2. The intense dislike for and prejudice against Jewish people.

anti-Semitism noun
 
/ˌænti ˈsemətɪzəm/
 
/ˌænti ˈsemətɪzəm/, 
 
/ˌæntaɪ ˈsemətɪzəm/
(also antisemitism)
[uncountable]

1. ​hate towards or unfair treatment of Jewish people

 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:38 pm

You should be wise enough to withhold your stupidity and keep it to yourself when you're so poorly educated to the reality, dickhead!
Here's the proof of how Biden HAS withheld weapons from Israel, and the response in a bill from Congress that if passed, would FORCE him to follow their legally binding order and release those weapons!:
 

Are you an eleven year old girl?

That bill proves they are racing for israel's cock. It doen's "prove" biden withheld jack **** - only that the America second rats in congress wish to prevent his ability to do so. 

You have the reasoning capacity of a fourth grade girl.
 

Zeets2 » 18 Sep 2024, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 2:40 pm

Yes, AS THEY SHOULD!
So show me where I EVER said that Gaza was a country, as you stupidly claimed?

Go back and curate your own retarded ****, fruitcake. You're not important enough for me to do so. 
 

Cannonpointer » 18 Sep 2024, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2024, 3:47 pm

No, gay. You blithered. You defend giving MY money to a nation with state supported communes and universal health care and education. \

You are socialist scum, and an America second fifth columnist.

Yes, I believe there are SOME foreign aide that is well worth providing, especially to fight the kind of terrorism we've suffered in this country.

If you don't like it, that's too **** bad!
Go find a country to live in where you agree with every dime the government spends.

To me, the aide sent to Israel is FAR more important that the TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS this idiot and Obama have spent on the hoax of "climate change"!  And I could probably point to another dozen or so expenditures we've made that I believe are far less important that providing weapons to countries fighting terrorism!

Grow up, sissyboi, and let me know what country exists that you approve of!