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Zeets2 » 21 Sep 2024, 11:08 am » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 11:08 am

I would if HE also murdered men the way Hamas and Hezbollah do!

stupid answer

jerrab » 21 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 11:42 am

stupid answer

Stupid answers are what comes from asking stupid questions.
 

Zeets2 » 21 Sep 2024, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 11:45 am

Stupid answers are what comes from asking stupid questions.

no. you just refused to answer because it would reveal your bull ****.

jerrab » 21 Sep 2024, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 12:16 pm

no. you just refused to answer because it would reveal your bull ****.

What is it that you think I have not already revealed, you fool?

It's really very simple:
I hate terrorists, you LOVE terrorists!
I respect Israel's right to exist, you want Hamas to kill every Jew and destroy Israel.
I've got no problem with the US helping to arm Israel, you HATE it when we send them additional weapons.
I'm perfectly fine with Israel occupying Gaza to prevent further attacks against them, you support Hamas torturing and murdering innocent Israeli citizens as their charter instructs them.

Go ahead and TRY to deny any of that!

Zeets2 » 21 Sep 2024, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 12:26 pm

What is it that you think I have not already revealed, you fool?

It's really very simple:
I hate terrorists, you LOVE terrorists!
I respect Israel's right to exist, you want Hamas to kill every Jew and destroy Israel.
I've got no problem with the US helping to arm Israel, you HATE it when we send them additional weapons.
I'm perfectly fine with Israel occupying Gaza to prevent further attacks against them, you support Hamas torturing and murdering innocent Israeli citizens as their charter instructs them.

Go ahead and TRY to deny any of that!

israel has never been fair, got that? and the reason is because israel  gets the support of american fake christians like you.

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https://unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim- ... rmination/

In the West Bank, authorities have confiscated more than 2 million dunams of land from Palestinians, making up more than one-third of the West Bank, including tens of thousands of dunams that they acknowledge are privately owned by Palestinians. One common tactic they have used is to declare territory, including privately-owned Palestinian land, as “state land.” The Israeli group Peace Now estimates that the Israeli government has designated about 1.4 million dunams of land, or about a quarter of the West Bank, as state land. The group has also found that more than 30 percent of the land used for settlements is acknowledged by the Israeli government as having been privately owned by Palestinians. Of the more than 675,000 dunams of state land that Israeli authorities have allocated for use by third parties in the West Bank, they have earmarked more than 99 percent for use by Israeli civilians, according to government data. Land grabs for settlements and the infrastructure that primarily serves settlers effectively concentrate Palestinians in the West Bank, according to B’Tselem, into “165 non-contiguous ‘territorial islands.’

 
 

jerrab » 21 Sep 2024, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 1:23 pm

israel has never been fair, got that? and the reason is because israel  gets the support of american fake christians like you.

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https://unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim- ... rmination/

In the West Bank, authorities have confiscated more than 2 million dunams of land from Palestinians, making up more than one-third of the West Bank, including tens of thousands of dunams that they acknowledge are privately owned by Palestinians. One common tactic they have used is to declare territory, including privately-owned Palestinian land, as “state land.” The Israeli group Peace Now estimates that the Israeli government has designated about 1.4 million dunams of land, or about a quarter of the West Bank, as state land. The group has also found that more than 30 percent of the land used for settlements is acknowledged by the Israeli government as having been privately owned by Palestinians. Of the more than 675,000 dunams of state land that Israeli authorities have allocated for use by third parties in the West Bank, they have earmarked more than 99 percent for use by Israeli civilians, according to government data. Land grabs for settlements and the infrastructure that primarily serves settlers effectively concentrate Palestinians in the West Bank, according to B’Tselem, into “165 non-contiguous ‘territorial islands.’

No I don't!
It's nothing more than your worthless opinion, and a stupid one at that!
 

The administration of US President Joe Biden expressed its deep concern that Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich intends to sever the connection between Palestinian banks and the Israeli financial system next month. This could lead to an economic collapse in the West Bank, according to reports by Israel’s Walla website on Tuesday, citing senior US officials.

The US administration fears that: “The crash of the Palestinian banking system could bring down the Palestinian Authority, creating a power vacuum that could throw the West Bank into chaos and exacerbate the conflict in the region.” Meanwhile, Smotrich continues his plan to weaken the Palestinian Authority (PA) as part of his ideology to annex the West Bank.

Smotrich, who also serves as a minister in the Defence Ministry and has been given many civilian powers related to the occupied West Bank, has previously stated that the PA poses a threat to Israel and has said that Hamas is an “asset” because it divides the Palestinian leadership, reducing the chances of establishing a Palestinian state.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240 ... -collapse/
 

After almost a year of genocidal intent and action, the Israeli military said it would be investigating “a serious incident that is not in line with IDF values and what is expected of Israeli soldiers.” The statement was regarding footage of soldiers throwing the bodies of three Palestinian resistance fighters off the roof of a building in Qabatiya in the occupied West Bank, during a raid in which the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) killed seven Palestinians.

One cannot say what pales in comparison when watching the footage of Palestinians shredded by Israel’s bombing and the casual mood of kicking dead Palestinians off a roof. Genocide, of course, is more vivid. But the Qabatiya footage is no less an example of what Israel really is at its core – kicking Palestinians out.

Of course, the IDF’s statement about its values cannot be taken seriously. One would not expect anyone to commit genocide or kick dead bodies off a roof – anyone who is not part of the IDF, that is. Because as far as the Israeli military goes, what is caught in the footage clearly reflects not only the IDF’s paramilitary beginnings, but also Israel’s existence.

And since genocide has failed to move world leaders to act in almost a year, besides debate and negotiating futile humanitarian pauses, what the Israeli soldiers did in Qabatiya is a reflection of how much the international community has allowed the dehumanisation of Palestinians to coexist in harmony with human rights.

The United Nations (UN) only wants the Nakba to be commemorated like any other passing anniversary – a day of reflection at best. But it will not allow the Nakba to be remembered for what it was – the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians as a result of the 1947 Partition Plan. In failing to allow an authentic remembrance of the 1948 Nakba, in which the Zionist paramilitaries committed horrific crimes, documented even in Israel’s archives, the UN paved the way for the dehumanisation of Palestinians to become an international passive stance. So much so that decades and countless international law violations later, every instance of Israeli colonial violence against Palestinians was collected only for statistical purposes.

If a population can be dehumanised, anything can be done to it. However, the international dehumanisation of Palestinians must be called out along with Israel’s dehumanisation of the colonised population. Since 1948, the UN has dehumanised Palestinians through non-binding resolutions. During the genocide, the UN dehumanised Palestinians further by creating humanitarian pauses – a deliberate delay of their impending massacre. And in the occupied West Bank – the international community’s image of what Palestinian state building should look like, at least on the surface – Palestinians are murdered and forgotten in the name of the biggest illusion of governance, which the international community still needs to save its diplomacy.

And now, the IDF can pretend to moralise about the behaviour of three of its soldiers throwing dead Palestinians off a roof, as though it has never seen or known about any atrocity committed by Zionists before the creation of Israel and after. Dehumanisation has given a platform for the IDF to masquerade as a moral champion when it is the leading military force behind the genocide in Gaza. How wrong can this world get?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240 ... estinians/

Zeets2 » 21 Sep 2024, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 1:27 pm

No I don't!
It's nothing more than your worthless opinion, and a stupid one at that!

peace now a group of israelis, are their opinions worthless to you?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.Peace Now states that the continued military and civilian control of the West Bank and over three million Palestinians that reside within it, jeopardizes the fundamental existence and the democratic character of Israel as the state of the Jewish people.Peace Now is an extra-parliamentary movement, seeking to promote its values and goals both to the Israeli public’s consciousness and to its representatives at the Knesset (Israel’s parliament) in order to implement a long-lasting solution between Israel and the Palestinians.The Movement’s Positions:• Two states for two peoples – Israel and Palestine, based on the borders of June 1967, and including mutually agreed-upon land swaps.•Israel was established as a Jewish and Democratic state, based on the principle that citizens should not be discriminated against due to religion, race, gender, or any other reason. Peace Now supports the establishment of a Palestinian state as a means of strengthening Israel’s Jewish and Democratic values.• Jerusalem – two capitals for two states: a solution based on the demographic distribution and a special international agreement in the Old City.• The Settlements damage Israel’s international image. They pose an existential threat to Israel’s future as a Jewish and democratic state, as they are a major obstacle to any future peace agreement. © 2024 Peace Now| Sitemap | Accessibility NoticeDesign & UX: Matnas Interactive | Charts: Highcharts

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova stated on Friday that her country is concerned about the developments in Lebanon, where tensions have been rising for several days.

Zakharova conveyed in video statements posted by the Russian Foreign Ministry on X: “On September 19, Israeli aircraft carried out a series of massive strikes on a number of areas in southern Lebanon, and before that, for two consecutive days, September 17 and 18, Lebanon was subjected to unprecedented terrorist attacks, which were electronic attacks,” according to the Russian Sputnik News agency.

She noted: “Dozens of people, including children, were victims of these attacks, and thousands of people were injured. This event is unprecedented in the history of the global community.”

“There has never been anything like this before. There have been terrorist attacks that have unfortunately claimed the lives of many people, and many more people have suffered, but this is a completely new type of terrorist act that combines this scale with the application of new technologies,” she added.

Zakharova relayed: “This is a completely new type of terrorist act, which combines both such a scale and such an application of new technologies, seemingly of a civilian nature, but used for terrorist purposes.”


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240 ... n-lebanon/

South African President, Cyril Ramaphosa, will address the upcoming annual session of the UN General Assembly amid an ongoing genocide case against Israel over its offensive on the Gaza Strip, Anadolu Agency reports.

Ramaphosa will lead the South African delegation to New York to attend the 79th session of the assembly, currently presided over by Cameroon’s former Prime Minister, Philemon Yang.

The South African President is expected to address the General Assembly on Tuesday, according to his office.

During his address, Ramaphosa will focus on “necessity for the maintenance of international peace and security” besides the Sustainable Development Goals and the implementation of the 2030 Agenda, as well as climate change and the upcoming COP29 meeting in Azerbaijan, development financing, health and pandemic preparedness.

South Africa took Israel to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for Tel Aviv’s indiscriminate bombardment of Palestinian besieged enclave of the Gaza Strip which has resulted in the deaths of more than 41,200 victims since last October.

Notably, reports had emerged that Israeli diplomats are lobbying US lawyers to pressure South Africa into dropping its genocide case against Tel Aviv.

However, Pretoria has said the genocide case against Israel at the ICJ will continue and South Africa will file a memorial at the top UN Court next month.

The annual gathering of world leaders is the “most important event on the UN calendar” to discuss global challenges and “how to address these challenges in the best interest of humanity,” Ramaphosa’s office said in a statement.

Ramaphosa will also attend the UN chief’s flagship high-level Summit of the Future.

Besides, he will engage business leaders “as part of the drive to attract foreign direct investment” to Africa’s largest economy, it added.

Foreign Minister, Ronald Lamola, among others, is accompanying Ramaphosa to the UN.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240 ... st-israel/

Majik » 21 Sep 2024, 1:43 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 1:43 pm

After almost a year of genocidal intent and action, the Israeli military said it would be investigating “a serious incident that is not in line with IDF values and what is expected of Israeli soldiers.” The statement was regarding footage of soldiers throwing the bodies of three Palestinian resistance fighters off the roof of a building in Qabatiya in the occupied West Bank, during a raid in which the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) killed seven Palestinians.

One cannot say what pales in comparison when watching the footage of Palestinians shredded by Israel’s bombing and the casual mood of kicking dead Palestinians off a roof. Genocide, of course, is more vivid. But the Qabatiya footage is no less an example of what Israel really is at its core – kicking Palestinians out.

Of course, the IDF’s statement about its values cannot be taken seriously. One would not expect anyone to commit genocide or kick dead bodies off a roof – anyone who is not part of the IDF, that is. Because as far as the Israeli military goes, what is caught in the footage clearly reflects not only the IDF’s paramilitary beginnings, but also Israel’s existence.

And since genocide has failed to move world leaders to act in almost a year, besides debate and negotiating futile humanitarian pauses, what the Israeli soldiers did in Qabatiya is a reflection of how much the international community has allowed the dehumanisation of Palestinians to coexist in harmony with human rights.

The United Nations (UN) only wants the Nakba to be commemorated like any other passing anniversary – a day of reflection at best. But it will not allow the Nakba to be remembered for what it was – the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians as a result of the 1947 Partition Plan. In failing to allow an authentic remembrance of the 1948 Nakba, in which the Zionist paramilitaries committed horrific crimes, documented even in Israel’s archives, the UN paved the way for the dehumanisation of Palestinians to become an international passive stance. So much so that decades and countless international law violations later, every instance of Israeli colonial violence against Palestinians was collected only for statistical purposes.

If a population can be dehumanised, anything can be done to it. However, the international dehumanisation of Palestinians must be called out along with Israel’s dehumanisation of the colonised population. Since 1948, the UN has dehumanised Palestinians through non-binding resolutions. During the genocide, the UN dehumanised Palestinians further by creating humanitarian pauses – a deliberate delay of their impending massacre. And in the occupied West Bank – the international community’s image of what Palestinian state building should look like, at least on the surface – Palestinians are murdered and forgotten in the name of the biggest illusion of governance, which the international community still needs to save its diplomacy.

And now, the IDF can pretend to moralise about the behaviour of three of its soldiers throwing dead Palestinians off a roof, as though it has never seen or known about any atrocity committed by Zionists before the creation of Israel and after. Dehumanisation has given a platform for the IDF to masquerade as a moral champion when it is the leading military force behind the genocide in Gaza. How wrong can this world get?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240 ... estinians/

it is not just israel who oppresses the palestians for  years but christians in america and other countries. without christian support israel would not be able to do what it does and this is against the teachings of Christ whose followers ignore Him every day.
 

jerrab » 21 Sep 2024, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 2:08 pm

it is not just israel who oppresses the palestians for  years but christians in america and other countries. without christian support israel not matter what. israel would not be able to do what it does without the backing of christians and this is against the teachings of Christ whose followers ignore Him every day.

Israel subverted a large part of Christianity in the US and other Western countries .....that's a fact.
 

Majik » 21 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm

Israel subverted a large part of Christianity in the US and other Western countries .....that's a fact.

and invented the term judeac/christian.

and people  started  calling themselves judeac/christian. and people I know called themselves that.

Majik » 21 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 2:11 pm

Israel subverted a large part of Christianity in the US and other Western countries .....that's a fact.

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Judeo-Christian beliefs about Israel include: 

• The Holy Land
  Christians believe that the region of Israel and Palestine is the Holy Land

jerrab » 21 Sep 2024, 2:26 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 2:26 pm

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Judeo-Christian beliefs about Israel include: 

• The Holy Land
  Christians believe that the region of Israel and Palestine is the Holy Land

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Second:
Because the land is God’s, He can choose to whom He would give it as an inheritance. In the case of Israel, God promised the land to Abraham’s descendants.//////////////////----------------------

giving the jews the right to kill palestianians according to judeo/christian beliefs.
 
 

Zeets2 » 21 Sep 2024, 8:20 am » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 8:20 am

You can't find my last post, BUT I'M STUPID!?!?
 

You're not stupid for squeegieing about you last post, fruity - though it's what a stupid person would do.

You're stupid for screeching in favor of murdering Semites, and then letting the term anti-Semite escape your retarded dick kisser. 

And by that I mean kisser of retarded men's dicks. 

jerrab » 21 Sep 2024, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Sep 2024, 1:45 pm

peace now a group of israelis, are their opinions worthless to you?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.Peace Now states that the continued military and civilian control of the West Bank and over three million Palestinians that reside within it, jeopardizes the fundamental existence and the democratic character of Israel as the state of the Jewish people.Peace Now is an extra-parliamentary movement, seeking to promote its values and goals both to the Israeli public’s consciousness and to its representatives at the Knesset (Israel’s parliament) in order to implement a long-lasting solution between Israel and the Palestinians.The Movement’s Positions:• Two states for two peoples – Israel and Palestine, based on the borders of June 1967, and including mutually agreed-upon land swaps.•Israel was established as a Jewish and Democratic state, based on the principle that citizens should not be discriminated against due to religion, race, gender, or any other reason. Peace Now supports the establishment of a Palestinian state as a means of strengthening Israel’s Jewish and Democratic values.• Jerusalem – two capitals for two states: a solution based on the demographic distribution and a special international agreement in the Old City.• The Settlements damage Israel’s international image. They pose an existential threat to Israel’s future as a Jewish and democratic state, as they are a major obstacle to any future peace agreement. © 2024 Peace Now| Sitemap | Accessibility NoticeDesign & UX: Matnas Interactive | Charts: Highcharts

Yes.  
Totally worthless.

And that's because forcing a phony peace now will leave Hamas in control of Gaza, which will quickly begin building rockets and missiles once again and shooting them indiscriminately at civilians in Israel.  The next Oct. 7th massacre could once again occur at any time.

But Hamas murdering Jewish civilians is exactly what Jew-haters like you want, isn't it?
 

jerra b » 17 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Sep 2024, 3:14 pm

does israel say how they drove off and murdered the palestinians with the help of america and england in 1948?

Socialism is such an ugly fashion developing mentalities every generation to doubt life daily within the entire species each rotation forward now. Global human behavior hasn't changed in 7,000 years while technology advanced to where instant communication exists in 24 separate time zones of 23 climate temperate zones seasons daily.

24 hours a rotation of the planet is called 7 separate time frames operating 25 ways to sustain reasonable doubt within 8.12 billion ancestors fighting over which people inherit the earth tomorrow.

Zeets2 » 22 Sep 2024, 8:03 am » wrote: ↑

22 Sep 2024, 8:03 am

Yes.  
Totally worthless.

And that's because forcing a phony peace now will leave Hamas in control of Gaza, which will quickly begin building rockets and missiles once again and shooting them indiscriminately at civilians in Israel.  The next Oct. 7th massacre could once again occur at any time.

But Hamas murdering Jewish civilians is exactly what Jew-haters like you want, isn't it?

a group living in israel knows more than you sitting on your *** in america. it is time to stop assholes like you deciding israel's future.