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Zeets2 » 23 Sep 2024, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2024, 2:44 pm

So if that's what the US wants, it proves your accusations about Israel are NOT what OUR intelligence has proven to us, and believe it is Hamas who commits crimes with impunity while refusing to abide by the laws of war, WHICH IS A PROVEN FACT!

Too bad that revelation will be insufficient to get you to shut the **** up about it!

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/leahy-law-israel/
Department official.Indeed, the Biden administration has shown little public interest in holding Israel accountable for alleged war crimes even as Israel begins its assault on Rafah, where more than 1 million Palestinians have sought shelter amid the war. While the White House has reportedly held up a pair of weapons transfers in recent days, it’s carefully avoided giving a reason for the move, leaving open the possibility that the delay was caused by logistical problems.Tim Rieser brings a unique perspective to these issues. During a long tenure as an aide to former Sen. Patrick Leahy, Rieser drafted the law that Israeli units now stand accused of violating. Today, he’s pushing for real enforcement of U.S. policy on weapons transfers as a senior adviser to Sen. Peter Welch (D-Vt.).In an email exchange, RS asked Rieser about whether the Leahy law has ever really been applied to Israel and why policymakers should care. The following conversation has been lightly edited for length and clarity.RS: You played a major role in the drafting of the Leahy law. From what you understand, is the Biden administration applying the law to Israel as it was originally intended?Rieser: No, and Sen. Leahy has said the same. In its long history, the Leahy law has never been applied to Israel. Yet the administration insists it’s being applied consistently worldwide. If that were true, there would have been any number of instances when the law was applied to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).A good example, and there are many, was the fatal shooting of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, after which Secretary Blinken called for a credible, thorough investigation and that those responsible be held accountable. None of that happened, and no action was taken by the United States under the Leahy law. The reality is that the law is applied differently with respect to Israel in multiple ways, with the result that it has never been applied to deny U.S. assistance to any IDF unit. As to why, I think it is due to a lack of political will.RS: Has the Biden administration followed the intended process for evaluating violations by Israel? Is Israel capable of holding its own units accountable for violations that may occur?
 

Zeets2 » 23 Sep 2024, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2024, 2:44 pm

So if that's what the US wants, it proves your accusations about Israel are NOT what OUR intelligence has proven to us, and believe it is Hamas who commits crimes with impunity while refusing to abide by the laws of war, WHICH IS A PROVEN FACT!

Too bad that revelation will be insufficient to get you to shut the **** up about it!

when it comes to israel america breaks it's own stance---

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/leahy-law-israel/
Department official.Indeed, the Biden administration has shown little public interest in holding Israel accountable for alleged war crimes even as Israel begins its assault on Rafah, where more than 1 million Palestinians have sought shelter amid the war. While the White House has reportedly held up a pair of weapons transfers in recent days, it’s carefully avoided giving a reason for the move, leaving open the possibility that the delay was caused by logistical problems.Tim Rieser brings a unique perspective to these issues. During a long tenure as an aide to former Sen. Patrick Leahy, Rieser drafted the law that Israeli units now stand accused of violating. Today, he’s pushing for real enforcement of U.S. policy on weapons transfers as a senior adviser to Sen. Peter Welch (D-Vt.).In an email exchange, RS asked Rieser about whether the Leahy law has ever really been applied to Israel and why policymakers should care. The following conversation has been lightly edited for length and clarity.RS: You played a major role in the drafting of the Leahy law. From what you understand, is the Biden administration applying the law to Israel as it was originally intended?Rieser: No, and Sen. Leahy has said the same. In its long history, the Leahy law has never been applied to Israel. Yet the administration insists it’s being applied consistently worldwide. If that were true, there would have been any number of instances when the law was applied to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).A good example, and there are many, was the fatal shooting of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, after which Secretary Blinken called for a credible, thorough investigation and that those responsible be held accountable. None of that happened, and no action was taken by the United States under the Leahy law. The reality is that the law is applied differently with respect to Israel in multiple ways, with the result that it has never been applied to deny U.S. assistance to any IDF unit. As to why, I think it is due to a lack of political will.RS: Has the Biden administration followed the intended process for evaluating violations by Israel? Is Israel capable of holding its own units accountable for violations that may occur?

jerrab » 23 Sep 2024, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2024, 5:24 pm

give your freaking house to the jews you stinking pile of anti semitic ****.

Why should I, dickhead?
They've now got a huge track of land in Gaza that they should take over completely.
What makes a fool like you think I'd give away my house?
Did you give your house to the Hamas terrorists?
No?
Then don't ask such stupid questions!
 

jerrab » 23 Sep 2024, 5:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2024, 5:20 pm

good lord. you are so twisted. biden gives ISRAEL every weapon/ bomb it asked for.

No, HE DID NOT!
He held up shipments of weapons because the asshole Biden interfered with how Israel was prosecuting their war against Hamas.
 

jerrab » 23 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm

have you and your whole city given your house keys and your cars and the money in your bank to jews? if not then you are anti semitic and your house should be bull dozed down and your family should be forced to flee with no money and nothing but the clothes on their backs.

Not a single Jew has EVER asked for my house, and Jews in my city mingle well with the rest of us.

Have YOU given YOUR house to Hamas terrorists?  Palestinians AND NOT JEWS are begging for a home of their own. YET YOU REFUSE TO HELP THEM!
How come YOU refuse to take in any Palestinians who claim to be homeless?

Could it be that you don't want to invite proven terrorists into your home, just as Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria have refused to allow them into their countries?

Maybe it's time you practices what you preach, asshole!
 

jerrab » 23 Sep 2024, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Sep 2024, 3:05 pm

explain how what happened in nazi germany justifies nazi israel persecuting the people of gaza.

go.

Phony premise!
Israel IS NOT persecuting anyone in Gaza OTHER THAN HAMAS TERRORISTS WHO HAVE SWORN TO PUSH JEWS INTO THE SEA!
And they deserve far worse than to simply be persecuted!  
They deserve nothing more than a bullet to the head or a bomb dropped on their homes!
 

Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 10:28 am

Not a single Jew has EVER asked for my house, and Jews in my city mingle well with the rest of us.

Have YOU given YOUR house to Hamas terrorists?  Palestinians AND NOT JEWS are begging for a home of their own. YET YOU REFUSE TO HELP THEM!
How come YOU refuse to take in any Palestinians who claim to be homeless?

Could it be that you don't want to invite proven terrorists into your home, just as Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria have refused to allow them into their countries?

Maybe it's time you practices what you preach, asshole!

but yet you expect the palastians to gladly give their homes. you are an anti semitic hateful son of a bitch.

jerrab » 24 Sep 2024, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 11:00 am

but yet you expect the palastians to gladly give their homes. you are an anti semitic hateful son of a bitch.

they allow terrorists to use their homes... level them

The real terrorists -

run WASH DC and PISSRAEL.

CONtards abortion stance is pure theatre.  Strictly virtue signaling. 

They LOVE murdered kids by the 10s of 1000s....for Jesus  
 

jerrab » 24 Sep 2024, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 11:00 am

but yet you expect the palastians to gladly give their homes. you are an anti semitic hateful son of a bitch.

No, I don't care if they give them up gladly or not!
If they're Hamas terrorists, they should be killed and their home taken away.
It's that simple!
 

Sumela » 24 Sep 2024, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 11:11 am

The real terrorists -

run WASH DC and PISSRAEL.

too true

Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 11:18 am

No, I don't care if they give them up gladly or not!
If they're Hamas terrorists, they should be killed and their home taken away.
It's that simple!

if you don't give your home willingly to the jews then they should shoot you like they did the palestians because you are anti semitic.

jerrab » 24 Sep 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 11:51 am

if you don't give your home willingly to the jews then they should shoot you like they did the palestians because you are anti semitic.

Excuse me, you brainless idiot, but aren't Jews ALSO Semites?
The Jews aren't looking for nor do they need my home!

But there sure are tens of thousands of Palestinian refugees who need one!
So why haven't YOU stepped up and given them yours?
Guess that proves your anti-Semitic, doesn't it?    
 

Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 11:57 am

Excuse me, you brainless idiot, but aren't Jews ALSO Semites?
The Jews aren't looking for nor do they need my home!

But there sure are tens of thousands of Palestinian refugees who need one!
So why haven't YOU stepped up and given them yours?
Guess that proves your anti-Semitic, doesn't it?  

anti semitic means someone who hates the jews like you who refuse to give your home to jews.

jerrab » 24 Sep 2024, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 12:05 pm

anti semitic means someone who hates the jews like you who refuse to give your home to jews.

an·ti-Se·mit·ic
/ˌanˌtīsəˈmidik,ˌan(t)ēsəˈmidik/
adjective

1. hostile to or prejudiced against Jewish people.
   "anti-Semitic remarks were posted on the site"

Zeets2 » 19 Sep 2024, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

19 Sep 2024, 11:05 am

Can you name me a single war where no children or babies were killed in collateral damage?

They're being targeted, you dishonest piece of ****.
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Aug 2025, 10:18 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2025, 10:18 pm

They're being targeted, you dishonest piece of ****.

That's **** and you know it!
If Hamas places their weapons and armories in hospitals, schools, and apartment buildings, THEY BECOME LEGITIMATE TARGETS OF WAR!
I'm getting SO sick of trying to educate Jew-hating morons like you day after day!:

Gaza’s Human ShieldsThe war crime no one wants to see.August 14, 2025 by Aynaz Anni Cyrus  

A baby in the rubble makes the front page.The men who put him there get a free pass.For decades, Hamas has perfected one tactic that wins every propaganda war it fights. They hide behind the very people they claim to defend. They put rocket launchers beside classrooms. They store weapons in hospitals. They turn neighborhoods into launch pads and then parade the casualties as proof of their own victimhood. And international law makes no room for it.This is not an allegation. It is a war crime spelled out in black and white under international law. And the proof comes not only from the battlefield but from the mouths of Hamas leaders themselves.The Law Hamas Breaks Every DayInternational humanitarian law is clear.Article 28 of the Fourth Geneva Convention:“The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.”
Fourth Geneva Convention, Article 28You cannot hide your military targets among civilians and expect immunity from attack.Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions goes further in Article 51(7):“The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.”
Protocol I, Article 51(7)These protections exist to keep noncombatants out of the line of fire. They are not loopholes to be exploited by armed groups looking for propaganda victories. This is the law that should put Hamas leaders in The Hague tomorrow.Hamas does not break these rules by accident. It uses them as a battle plan. This is documented by the United Nations, by aid organizations, by journalists on the ground, and by Hamas’s own leaders.

Now that Hamas is almost wiped out, don't you think it's time you stop promoting your lies and **** from that Hamas terrorists who hate Jews as much as you do?
 

Zeets2 » 14 Aug 2025, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2025, 10:19 am

That's **** and you know it!
If Hamas places their weapons and armories in hospitals, schools, and apartment buildings, THEY BECOME LEGITIMATE TARGETS OF WAR!
I'm getting SO sick of trying to educate Jew-hating morons like you day after day!:

Now that Hamas is almost wiped out, don't you think it's time you stop promoting your lies and **** from that Hamas terrorists who hate Jews as much as you do?

you suscribe to the mike huckabee school of thought, israel belongs to the jews and he wants to evict every non jew from israel and is fine with all non jews including children getting killed.

now how are you going to explain to Christ that believing in him promotes child murder?