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Father Of Georgia School Shooting Suspect Charged With Murder
Father Of Georgia School Shooting Suspect Charged With Murder
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6 Sep 2024 1:39 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
8 Sep 2024 2:45 am
Yet ANOTHER unanswered question!jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑ did the father supervise him while he was shooting at the school?
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8 Sep 2024 2:50 am
That would ordinarily be true.Majik » 07 Sep 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑ The charges against the father are rediculous and totally obsurd...
Buying an AR for his son as a Christmas gift.... broke no laws and was his legal right to do so in his state.
And does not make the father in any way culpable for his sons crimes .....
But depending on what the kid had said on social media about wanting to do a school shooting, there might be an exception.
The mass shooting wasn't an accident, though.Majik » 07 Sep 2024, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑ Just like when a father who buys his teenage son a car as a gift ....and then that son goes out and drinks and drives without his father knowing and kills 5 people in a car accident ......
A better analogy would be if the kid had said he intended to run people over, and THEN the dad bought him a car.
Mind you, I have no idea what the kid had said on social media that sparked GBI involvement, and I have no idea what transpired between the father and son that assuaged any concerns the father might have had. That's all for a jury to untangle, it appears.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 2:50 am
I know that if guns were sex changes, you would hail the dad as a hero.Blackvegetable » 06 Sep 2024, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑
You don't appear to be schooled on the details of this matter.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 3:00 am
This is true ordinarily. In this case, we APPEAR to have a kid who threatened a mass killing, was subsequently gifted a rifle, and then did a mass killing.ConsRule » 07 Sep 2024, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑ According to your post...you lied about what the father said. The father said he did not have "unsupervised access to them". That is NOT the same a no access. It was not a crime for the father to purchase the gun...it is not a crime to gift that gun to his son...it is not a crime for the son to possess the gun.
The guy that gave him the rife might bear some responsibility.
The kid doesn't have a Constitutional right to own a gun - unless his father SAYS he does. If his father says he doesn't, then he doesn't.ConsRule » 07 Sep 2024, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑ If the legal authorities who investigated the kid did not find probable cause to continue the investigation or to take any action related to the threat, the neither the father nor the kid should lose their constitutional right.
And the authorities being mollified by the father that the kid had no unsupervised access to a gun does not provide cover for the father's subsequent gift. They had no way of knowing the dad would turn around and arm the kid.
What we do not know is where that gun was kept or how the kid accessed it. The actual FACTS will be decided by a jury - and if you know where the El Dorado of reliable reportage exists, I will trade you greenies for that information.
They (and you know who they are) WANT us fighting over this. They want us all taking hard, partisan, ideological positions. That's not how real life works. In real life, things are fluid. New facts come in. New light is shed. We don't know nearly enough of the details in this matter to say whether they're charging a great dad who did nothing wrong, or an asshole whose negligence and stupidity got people killed.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 3:04 am
This would imply you ever did.
And we all know better, skirt-hiker.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 3:08 am
It means the kid had no unsupervised access to the dad's guns. And it's likely true. He used his own gun.
Which is what I suspect you're driving at. And I have to say, that's a reasonable concern. Who buys a gun for a kid that threatened a school shooting?
I mean, okay - I would. But I am NOT a nice person. I would do it precisely because the kid was a likely school shooter, and I'm a congenital ****-stirrer.
Hey, it's congenital. I was born this way - and God don't make no junk.
If the dad WASN'T negligent, but just a guy who really loves practical jokes, I could vote to acquit.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 3:20 am
Cannonpointer » 08 Sep 2024, 3:08 am » wrote: ↑ It means the kid had no unsupervised access to the dad's guns. And it's likely true. He used his own gun.
Which is what I suspect you're driving at. And I have to say, that's a reasonable concern. Who buys a gun for a kid that threatened a school shooting?
I mean, okay - I would. But I am NOT a nice person. I would do it precisely because the kid was a likely school shooter, and I'm a congenital ****-stirrer.
Hey, it's congenital. I was born this way - and God don't make no junk.
If the dad WASN'T negligent, but just a guy who really loves practical jokes, I could vote to acquit.
it depends if the father put it up and said this is you gun but you need my to permission to use it or did he just hand it to the son and told him to keep it in his room and use it whenever he wanted to.
8 Sep 2024 3:23 am
It could be argued that the dad should have locked it away securely, given the kid had apparently threatened to shoot up a school. Putting him on the honor system would probably appear criminally negligent to some intolerant folks - like the parents of the dead kids, for example.jerrab » 08 Sep 2024, 3:20 am » wrote: ↑ it depends if the father put it up and said this is you gun but you need my to permission to use it or did he just hand it to the son and told him to keep it in his room and use it whenever he wanted to.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 5:46 am
That gun didn't belong to the father and was not one that was referenced in the investigation last year. You have a problem understanding facts, don't you.jerrab » 07 Sep 2024, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑ did the father supervise him while he was shooting at the school?
8 Sep 2024 5:50 am
Show me where, in the US Constitution, there is a minimum age mentioned related to the 2nd. I'll wait...Cannonpointer » 08 Sep 2024, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑ This is true ordinarily. In this case, we APPEAR to have a kid who threatened a mass killing, was subsequently gifted a rifle, and then did a mass killing.
The guy that gave him the rife might bear some responsibility.
The kid doesn't have a Constitutional right to own a gun - unless his father SAYS he does. If his father says he doesn't, then he doesn't.
And the authorities being mollified by the father that the kid had no unsupervised access to a gun does not provide cover for the father's subsequent gift. They had no way of knowing the dad would turn around and arm the kid.
What we do not know is where that gun was kept or how the kid accessed it. The actual FACTS will be decided by a jury - and if you know where the El Dorado of reliable reportage exists, I will trade you greenies for that information.
They (and you know who they are) WANT us fighting over this. They want us all taking hard, partisan, ideological positions. That's not how real life works. In real life, things are fluid. New facts come in. New light is shed. We don't know nearly enough of the details in this matter to say whether they're charging a great dad who did nothing wrong, or an asshole whose negligence and stupidity got people killed.
8 Sep 2024 6:03 am
Show me where it confirms an individual right.ConsRule » 08 Sep 2024, 5:50 am » wrote: ↑ Show me where, in the US Constitution, there is a minimum age mentioned related to the 2nd. I'll wait...
8 Sep 2024 6:03 am
Fabulous rationale.ConsRule » 08 Sep 2024, 5:46 am » wrote: ↑ That gun didn't belong to the father and was not one that was referenced in the investigation last year. You have a problem understanding facts, don't you.
8 Sep 2024 9:48 am
Show me where children are given agency to make their own decisions and exercise their rights independent of their parents and with no respect to their parents intentions.ConsRule » 08 Sep 2024, 5:50 am » wrote: ↑ Show me where, in the US Constitution, there is a minimum age mentioned related to the 2nd. I'll wait...
We'll ALL wait.
While you're in there Constitutioning for us, go ahead and grab where they have the right to drive cars, work in factories, get married - you know: rights stuff.
You dummy.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Sep 2024 12:59 pm
It's there...but you have to understand grammar, writing styles at the time it was written and need a dictionary.
https://www.socsci.uci.edu/lawforum/con ... palzes.pdf
https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2021/07/th ... -amendment
8 Sep 2024 1:01 pm
Since children are people, see Amendment 10:Cannonpointer » 08 Sep 2024, 9:48 am » wrote: ↑ Show me where children are given agency to make their own decisions and exercise their rights independent of their parents and with no respect to their parents intentions.
We'll ALL wait.
While you're in there Constitutioning for us, go ahead and grab where they have the right to drive cars, work in factories, get married - you know: rights stuff.
You dummy.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
8 Sep 2024 2:14 pm
So, what you are saying is that that the Constitution doesn't say so, but some NRA whores do.ConsRule » 08 Sep 2024, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑ It's there...but you have to understand grammar, writing styles at the time it was written and need a dictionary.
https://www.socsci.uci.edu/lawforum/con ... palzes.pdf
https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2021/07/th ... -amendment
8 Sep 2024 3:01 pm
Better yet, show us where is doesn't. I'll wait.
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8 Sep 2024 10:45 pm
So you're doubling down on retarded?ConsRule » 08 Sep 2024, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑ Since children are people, see Amendment 10:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Children have no right to vote. Explain that, you idiot. The Tenth Amendment seems silent on that,
No right to vote. No right to marry. No right to borrow money. No right to travel freely. No right to own a gun - unless parents give them that agency.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
9 Sep 2024 5:33 am
FYI...the grammatical structure of the 2nd was mentioned in the Heller decision. So, apparently SCOTUS says so.Blackvegetable » 08 Sep 2024, 2:14 pm » wrote: ↑ So, what you are saying is that that the Constitution doesn't say so, but some NRA whores do.
9 Sep 2024 5:41 am
Antonin's pile of steaming ****?ConsRule » 09 Sep 2024, 5:33 am » wrote: ↑ FYI...the grammatical structure of the 2nd was mentioned in the Heller decision. So, apparently SCOTUS says so.
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