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Zeets2 » 13 Sep 2024, 4:08 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2024, 4:08 pm

So, I see you'd have no problem murdering an American citizen who has never hurt anyone, but you got nothing but sympathy for terrorists who torture and murder innocent civilians by the thousands and the millions who support them and who favor the complete extermination of Jews, just like Hitler did, huh?
Just as I suspected!
Oh, but I'M the racist, xenophobic thug, huh?

Bet you've got this photo of him on your bedroom wall, don't you?
So once again we've found two major differences between us, haven't we?
I have no desire to see you shot and killed.
But I wouldn't mind seeing you bent in half and shaken like a glow-stick till you smarten up, you hate-filled cretin!

I have no sympathy for terrorists and I have no sympathy for insurrectionists.  I am, and have always been, very pro-Israeli.  I spent two years in the middle of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I have cried at Yad Vashem.  You?  Probably not.

I would not murder you.  I would put you on trial for treason first.  Then I'd have you shot.
 

maineman » 13 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm

Ya see... once you go through the citizenship process, you quit being "illegal."  

Nobody not born here is GIVEN citizenship, they must qualify for it and pass a test in order to earn it.

That doesn't change the crime.

maineman » 13 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm

I have no sympathy for terrorists and I have no sympathy for insurrectionists.  I am, and have always been, very pro-Israeli.  I spent two years in the middle of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I have cried at Yad Vashem.  You?  Probably not.

I would not murder you.  I would put you on trial for treason first.  Then I'd have you shot.

Changed your mind when you realized how closely you resemble those terrorists you claim to hate when you spew a diatribe like that at me, didn't you?
And exactly who are you talking about regarding insurrection?  Has ANYONE been been found guilty of that?

Still quite telling though is how much you hate the 1st Amendment since you stupidly believe that I don't have the right to speak my opinion without being tried for treason, huh?
Care to walk that snippet of stupidity back as well now that you've exposed your ignorance even further?
What is it that I said that makes you believe I should be charged with treason, idiot?
Come on, give it a shot!  It's obvious you LOVE how the corrupt Biden/Harris has weaponized the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, don't you?  Of course, that's only as long as they're going after Republicans, isn't it?  I can only image how your head would explode if a President Trump EVER tried to do that when REPUBLICANS had the same power as your fraudulent, demented leader!

It's best you learn to control your emotions when others disagree with you, regardless of the reality of what a herculean task that must be for you!
 

Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 8:37 am

Changed your mind when you realized how closely you resemble those terrorists you claim to hate when you spew a diatribe like that at me, didn't you?
And exactly who are you talking about regarding insurrection?  Has ANYONE been been found guilty of that?

Still quite telling though is how much you hate the 1st Amendment since you stupidly believe that I don't have the right to speak my opinion without being tried for treason, huh?
Care to walk that snippet of stupidity back as well now that you've exposed your ignorance even further?
What is it that I said that makes you believe I should be charged with treason, idiot?
Come on, give it a shot!  It's obvious you LOVE how the corrupt Biden/Harris has weaponized the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, don't you?  Of course, that's only as long as they're going after Republicans, isn't it?  I can only image how your head would explode if a President Trump EVER tried to do that when REPUBLICANS had the same power as your fraudulent, demented leader!

It's best you learn to control your emotions when others disagree with you, regardless of the reality of what a herculean task that must be for you!

I believe you supported and condoned the efforts of the J6 rioting mob to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.  That was my own personal Rubicon.  Before J6, MAGA morons were merely my political adversaries.  Since that day, you all have become my sworn enemies.  It's as simple as that.

maineman » 14 Sep 2024, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 8:51 am

I believe you supported and condoned the efforts of the J6 rioting mob to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.  That was my own personal Rubicon.  Before J6, MAGA morons were merely my political adversaries.  Since that day, you all have become my sworn enemies.  It's as simple as that.

Why don't you check back and see if I have EVER condoned the rioters who broke into the Capitol on Jan. 6th?
Obviously you haven't found it necessary to do that before your knee-jerk reaction to arrest and charge someone for treason when you have zero evidence of that EVER taking place?  I've ALWAYS said that I've got no problem with the few dozen rioters that actually broke into the Capitol.  My problem is with the hundreds of others who received similar jail sentences for simply walking through the Capitol through doors held open by police and were unarmed, causing no damage at all once inside.

So either go find what I've said that you think is treasonous, or admit how what you REALLY want is to see anyone who dares to disagree with your demented president and his whore VP to simply be thrown in jail!

I'll wait, you anti-Constitutional moron!
 

Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 9:03 am

Why don't you check back and see if I have EVER condoned the rioters who broke into the Capitol on Jan. 6th?
Obviously you haven't found it necessary to do that before your knee-jerk reaction to arrest and charge someone for treason when you have zero evidence of that EVER taking place?  I've ALWAYS said that I've got no problem with the few dozen rioters that actually broke into the Capitol.  My problem is with the hundreds of others who received similar jail sentences for simply walking through the Capitol through doors held open by police and were unarmed, causing no damage at all once inside.

So either go find what I've said that you think is treasonous, or admit how what you REALLY want is to see anyone who dares to disagree with your demented president and his whore VP to simply be thrown in jail!

I'll wait, you anti-Constitutional moron!

At issue is:  did you or did you not want the constitutionally mandated process of power transfer via the acceptance of the states' electoral college tallies to be disrupted and delayed?



edit:  "a few dozen?"        
https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/04/jan- ... on-charge/
 

a few dozen:

https://www.governing.com/context/the-u ... -different
https://www.gao.gov/blog/our-work-january-6th-attack
https://www.insidernj.com/press-release ... urrection/

           

maineman » 14 Sep 2024, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 9:21 am

At issue is:  did you or did you not want the constitutionally mandated process of power transfer via the acceptance of the states' electoral college tallies to be disrupted and delayed?

edit:  "a few dozen?"        
https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/04/jan- ... on-charge/

Any American INCLUDING THE SITTING PRESIDENT has the Constitutional right to contest the outcome of an election, asshole!
And that's EXACTLY what Trump did and I fully support his efforts to expose the election fraud employed by your beloved Democrats.
Ignorant Democrats like YOU stupidly call that treason!

Did you likewise object when Al Gore spent months demanding recounts and court orders as he tried to overturn the victory of George Bush?

Did you happen to miss the fact that the SC just threw out the charges for obstruction that the corrupt Biden/Harris DOJ used to throw hundreds of Americans in jail?

Supreme Court rules against Jan 6 riot obstruction charges
BBC 28 June 2024

The US Supreme Court has ruled that federal prosecutors overreached in using an obstruction law to charge dozens of January 6 rioters, in an opinion that could affect the prosecution of Donald Trump.More than 350 people have been charged with obstructing an official proceeding.The Supreme Court has said the use of that law, which was created in the wake of the Enron scandal in 2002 to prevent corporate malfeasance during trials, should only be used if the accused allegedly hurt or destroyed documents or records in the proceeding.

 
 

Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2024, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 9:51 am

Any American INCLUDING THE SITTING PRESIDENT has the Constitutional right to contest the outcome of an election, asshole!
And that's EXACTLY what Trump did and I fully support his efforts to expose the election fraud employed by your beloved Democrats.
Ignorant Democrats like YOU stupidly call that treason!

Did you likewise object when Al Gore spent months demanding recounts and court orders as he tried to overturn the victory of George Bush?

Did you happen to miss the fact that the SC just threw out the charges for obstruction that the corrupt Biden/Harris DOJ used to throw hundreds of Americans in jail?

He attempted to prove fraud, and failed in every single case across the nation.  THAT was his constitutional right.  TO contest in court.  He lost.

AL Gore lost, and immediately after HE did what did HE do?  He graciously conceded to Bush.  THAT is how patriots deal with legal and political setbacks.  They don't attempt to disrupt the Constitution's clearly laid out procedures for the peaceful transfer of power.  They do NOT whip up a lynch mob.

When that lynch mob stormed the capitol to disrupt a Constitutionally mandated process, they - and you with you unflagging support - became DOMESTIC ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION.  I swore an oath to protect that document from traitorous scumbags like you and I still live by that oath.
 

maineman » 09 Sep 2024, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 7:00 pm

I must say that I am not really as clued into the "weave" verbal stylings of Donald Trump. Can any of his scrotum-sucking sycophants on here explain to me what that says?
 

Lol, the media fed child molester spews again.

murdock » 14 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm

Lol, the media fed child molester spews again.

What staged reality are you a character in on the world stage since birth believing evolving is an intellectual supernaturally controlled environment naturally balancing life apart in series parallel time each is equally living as specifically spontaneously here, simultaneously with free will never understanding how they arrived uniquely here at all?

That missing link between conceived and birth that in relative timing is 0-9 months since rotation conceived by one's biological parents known after birth or became an orphan after born.

Ironically you cannot link simple compounding results in economic theory to chromosomes combined ancestrally work inversely to each other daily per DNA result left alive now among 8.2 billion lifetimes here sandwiched between 5 generation gaps per ancestral lineage.

16, 8, 4, 2, each great great grandchild generation arriving one son or daughter at a time. Talk about multitasking relationships between 30 previous people and one's self their replacement when they die first or not. Adapt or become extinct is available between heartbeats daily. Death is as random between 5 generation gaps as getting conceived as a 5th generation replacement.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch philosophy has fooled this species into not accepting life exists between inception and conception of another generation gap so far. Figures lie, but numbers occupying time in series parallel space deny their time equally alive today.

maineman » 14 Sep 2024, 3:06 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Sep 2024, 3:06 pm

He attempted to prove fraud, and failed in every single case across the nation.  THAT was his constitutional right.  TO contest in court.  He lost.

AL Gore lost, and immediately after HE did what did HE do?  He graciously conceded to Bush.  THAT is how patriots deal with legal and political setbacks.  They don't attempt to disrupt the Constitution's clearly laid out procedures for the peaceful transfer of power.  They do NOT whip up a lynch mob.

When that lynch mob stormed the capitol to disrupt a Constitutionally mandated process, they - and you with you unflagging support - became DOMESTIC ENEMIES OF THE CONSTITUTION.  I swore an oath to protect that document from traitorous scumbags like you and I still live by that oath.

Blah, Blah, Blah with your ****!
1) Yeah, Gore conceded, and then the DNC and Democrats bent over backwards to try to cheat their way to overturning it, complaining about **** like "hanging chads" and "voter intentions" demanding that recounting go on indefinitely until they were stopped by the Supreme Court.
2) Show me where I EVER supported the rioters who broke into the Capitol?  I supported the rights of the people who received a permit to demonstrate peacefully that day, EXACTLY HOW TRUMP ORDERED THEM TO BEHAVE "PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY".

So tell me, Mr. Patriot.  What does that Constitution say about having a secure border?
Or can't you be bothered to support THAT part of the Constitution?
Ever read Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution which clearly states: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion?
Now, do you want to talk about the "domestic enemies of the Constitution" regarding the 11 MILLION illegals that your idiot Harris welcomed into the country?

Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 9:33 am

Blah, Blah, Blah with your ****!
1) Yeah, Gore conceded, and then the DNC and Democrats bent over backwards to try to cheat their way to overturning it, complaining about **** like "hanging chads" and "voter intentions" demanding that recounting go on indefinitely until they were stopped by the Supreme Court.
2) Show me where I EVER supported the rioters who broke into the Capitol?  I supported the rights of the people who received a permit to demonstrate peacefully that day, EXACTLY HOW TRUMP ORDERED THEM TO BEHAVE "PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY".

So tell me, Mr. Patriot.  What does that Constitution say about having a secure border?
Or can't you be bothered to support THAT part of the Constitution?
Ever read Article 4 Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution which clearly states: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion?
Now, do you want to talk about the "domestic enemies of the Constitution" regarding the 11 MILLION illegals that your idiot Harris welcomed into the country?

What is **** about pointing out that Donald Trump was afforded every right to contest the election?  He lost every single court case he and his Kraken team of legal eagles filed, and he STILL  has not conceded to this day.   More than a few of that legal team didn't fare so well due to their misplaced allegiance to the clown, but that's a whole other story.

There was nothing peaceful about the assault on the capitol on January 6th, and it sickens me to see you insurrection apologists attempt to rewrite history.  I was glued to the TV all day, and I saw tens of thousands of angry MAGAts storming the barriers, smashing windows, and beating policemen.  Trump sent them there to try and stop Mike Pence from accepting the electors.  That, in itself, was a treasonous objective.

Oh... and you have got your history all **** up in point #1 up there, which proves that a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Gore did not concede until December 13th, the day after The Supreme COurt decision in Gore v. Bush ended Florida's recount.  The DNC did nothing further after that concession.  The recount was stopped, and all suits contesting the election were dropped.  You probably should shut your piehole when the only thing that you can pull out of it is ****.

And families coming to America to escape violence and social unrest and find a better way of life are not INVADERS.

And Haitians here LEGALLY in Ohio are NOT eating anyone's cats.

Run along now, traitor.  
 
 

maineman » 15 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm

What is **** about pointing out that Donald Trump was afforded every right to contest the election?  He lost every single court case he and his Kraken team of legal eagles filed, and he STILL  has not conceded to this day.   More than a few of that legal team didn't fare so well due to their misplaced allegiance to the clown, but that's a whole other story.

There was nothing peaceful about the assault on the capitol on January 6th, and it sickens me to see you insurrection apologists attempt to rewrite history.  I was glued to the TV all day, and I saw tens of thousands of angry MAGAts storming the barriers, smashing windows, and beating policemen.  Trump sent them there to try and stop Mike Pence from accepting the electors.  That, in itself, was a treasonous objective.

Oh... and you have got your history all **** up in point #1 up there, which proves that a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Gore did not concede until December 13th, the day after The Supreme COurt decision in Gore v. Bush ended Florida's recount.  The DNC did nothing further after that concession.  The recount was stopped, and all suits contesting the election were dropped.  You probably should shut your piehole when the only thing that you can pull out of it is ****.

And families coming to America to escape violence and social unrest and find a better way of life are not INVADERS.

And Haitians here LEGALLY in Ohio are NOT eating anyone's cats.

Run along now, traitor.

Trump DID NOT lose every voter fraud case!  
NO JUDGES WERE EVER WILLING TO HEAR IT!
And your claim that 10 million illegals ARE NOT invaders IS COMPLETE ****!
We HAVE a LEGAL immigration policy, AND KAMALA BROKE THE LAW BY NOT FOLLOWING IT, all while idiots like you have no problem letting those 10 million illegals JUMP IN FRONT OF THEM IN LINE to become American citizens!

But as far as a dope like you is concerned, it would be just fine to take in even 100 million new illegals that are unvetted to see whether or not they're criminals, drug dealers, convicts, gang members, pedophiles, or child traffickers, right?
LET SEE YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ASSHOLE!

 

maineman » 09 Sep 2024, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 7:00 pm

I must say that I am not really as clued into the "weave" verbal stylings of Donald Trump. Can any of his scrotum-sucking sycophants on here explain to me what that says?
 

It says your mom sucked my dick with her asshole.

Zeets2 » 15 Sep 2024, 3:29 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:29 pm

Trump DID NOT lose every voter fraud case!  
NO JUDGES WERE EVER WILLING TO HEAR IT!
And your claim that 10 million illegals ARE NOT invaders IS COMPLETE ****!
We HAVE a LEGAL immigration policy, AND KAMALA BROKE THE LAW BY NOT FOLLOWING IT, all while idiots like you have no problem letting those 10 million illegals JUMP IN FRONT OF THEM IN LINE to become American citizens!

But as far as a dope like you is concerned, it would be just fine to take in even 100 million new illegals that are unvetted to see whether or not they're criminals, drug dealers, convicts, gang members, pedophiles, or child traffickers, right?
LET SEE YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ASSHOLE!

Of course, they were willing to hear it. They just didn't need to actually try the cases because Team Kraken's initial filings didn't pass the laugh test.

Do you remember Rudy outside of Four Seasons Garden Supply with his five binders of "evidence" of voter fraud?  Didn't you ever wonder why he never bothered to get that evidence admitted in a court of law?  Because it wasn't evidence - it was unfounded assertions and unsupported claims and lawyers are taught never to perjure themselves by claiming something that is someone else's opinion is somehow fact.



Kamala broke no laws.  The Vice President is not tasked with enforcing immigration policy.  Mayorkas is.

I would not be willing to take 100 million asylum seekers... certainly not before their petitions were heard and adjudicated 

murdock » 15 Sep 2024, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Sep 2024, 3:48 pm

It says your mom sucked my dick with her asshole.

 

really?  when was that?
 

maineman » 13 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm

I have no sympathy for terrorists and I have no sympathy for insurrectionists.  I am, and have always been, very pro-Israeli.  I spent two years in the middle of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I have cried at Yad Vashem.  You?  Probably not.

I would not murder you.  I would put you on trial for treason first.  Then I'd have you shot.

Terrorists by definition are doing stuff to scare people and make them miserable.
Insurrectionists are pissed off at a government (likely on behalf of the citizenry).

Two different animals that your tiny brain lumps together.

(This thread is getting old and useless as ****. Besides, why are we concerned that the government is taking care of our children? Get them the **** out of everyone's life.)
 

maineman » 13 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Sep 2024, 4:42 pm

I have no sympathy for terrorists and I have no sympathy for insurrectionists.  I am, and have always been, very pro-Israeli.  I spent two years in the middle of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I have cried at Yad Vashem.  You?  Probably not.

I would not murder you.  I would put you on trial for treason first.  Then I'd have you shot.
 

Of course the jury would be your peers allies for humanity.

DeezerShoove » 16 Sep 2024, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 8:04 am

Terrorists by definition are doing stuff to scare people and make them miserable.
Insurrectionists are pissed off at a government (likely on behalf of the citizenry).

Two different animals that your tiny brain lumps together.

(This thread is getting old and useless as ****. Besides, why are we concerned that the government is taking care of our children? Get them the **** out of everyone's life.)

I don't like warm beer, and I don't like the New York Yankees.
They are not "lumped together in my brain." They are merely two disparate things that I don't like.
You really aren't anywhere near as clever as you fashion yourself.